**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 31 02:59:59 2012 Dec 31 08:39:54 DocScrutinizer05: is there some issue with the cbsms widget now? Dec 31 09:51:35 Sicelo: last i heard there were some issues related to roaming Dec 31 09:51:55 i had my issue, i reported my issue, i got my issue fixed, worksforme Dec 31 09:53:26 what was the problem? Dec 31 09:53:52 didn't update the name when doing national roaming Dec 31 10:18:31 * Gadgetoid is off to the post-office Dec 31 11:03:12 Mission successful! Dec 31 11:12:29 i can't believe you willingly separated from a n900 in your possession :c Dec 31 11:19:58 kerio: he has an iphone now :) Dec 31 11:20:06 >:C Dec 31 11:20:08 that's even worse! Dec 31 11:20:14 or a Lumia Dec 31 11:20:23 kerio: but it is faster ;) Dec 31 11:20:35 and shiny Dec 31 11:20:52 yes, especially the white surface, so shiny! Dec 31 11:21:20 well YOUR FACE is shiny Dec 31 11:21:37 jon_y: yeah, makes me wanna puke Dec 31 11:22:08 I was just comparing the dimensions of the new iphone the other day, the n900 is huge :) Dec 31 11:22:22 kerio: mine? no, I am a dark Balkan guy :P Dec 31 11:22:32 oth, the iphone feels really flimsy Dec 31 11:23:03 as if you could snap it if you left it in your pocket sitting in a wrong position Dec 31 11:26:00 heh, apple fans are really something Dec 31 11:26:35 one of them told me that users don't need NFC when asked about when apple will do it Dec 31 11:26:36 fanboys Dec 31 11:27:31 jon_y: then they will see it as the next big thing when apple decides to stick it into their next phone Dec 31 11:28:00 very much so Dec 31 11:28:10 just as with multitasking Dec 31 11:28:22 or whatever else Dec 31 11:28:25 don't forget quad core Dec 31 11:28:44 typical of any Samsung v Apple arguments :) Dec 31 11:47:35 bleh Dec 31 11:47:58 order of "close everything" and "check battery" should be swapped in ham Dec 31 14:36:56 snu Dec 31 14:39:46 ~snu Dec 31 14:50:02 FIQ|n900: file a bug! Dec 31 14:50:11 (re:HAM closes everything before checking the battery) Dec 31 14:51:06 where? Dec 31 15:00:37 FIQ|n900: the cssu bug tracker, i suppose Dec 31 15:00:50 but right now it's in read-only mode for the move Dec 31 15:00:56 yes exactly Dec 31 15:00:57 :p Dec 31 15:49:27 I downloaded a 184KB large file earlier in microB, and the whole system froze on 85% downloaded and n900 was very hot, how did this happen? Dec 31 15:49:34 sorry 184MB Dec 31 15:50:33 I've gotten similar issues earlier with large downloads Dec 31 15:50:49 mine always does that Dec 31 15:50:56 (may be worth noting that my dl speed was ~47KB/s Dec 31 15:50:58 ) Dec 31 15:51:14 FIQ|n900: the n900 sucks at I/O Dec 31 15:51:22 hrm Dec 31 15:51:29 I think it might be something to do with the way the system is constantly trying to index the contents of the hdd Dec 31 15:51:35 so how do I download it then? :D Dec 31 15:51:47 jpinx: tracker is disabled here Dec 31 15:51:49 if that's what you mean Dec 31 15:51:54 FIQ|n900: increase the IO queue size Dec 31 15:52:13 kerio: um I can't follow Dec 31 15:52:15 fwiw - I use the n900 as a usb modem to an eeepc and it's ok Dec 31 15:52:22 what's io queue size?? Dec 31 15:52:23 -? Dec 31 15:52:42 the n990 stays cool - the eeepc gets hot ! haha!! Dec 31 15:52:48 FIQ|n900: echo 8192 > /sys/block/mmcblk0/queue/nr_requests Dec 31 15:52:50 for instance Dec 31 15:52:55 but there's a ton to do Dec 31 15:53:21 FIQ|n900: this is what i have at the end of /etc/init.d/rcS: http://fpaste.org/gTmx/ Dec 31 15:53:31 kerio: I looked at that a while ago and decided that the risk of fscking the system was not worth it Dec 31 15:53:41 jpinx: whatever Dec 31 15:53:54 hmm Dec 31 15:53:59 worksforme Dec 31 15:54:12 is this something swappolube would solve? Dec 31 15:54:29 a quick look at your file seems similar to its' configurations Dec 31 15:54:40 it's partially freemangordon's swappolube configurations Dec 31 15:54:47 and partially ShadowJK's tweaks Dec 31 15:55:35 well as I don't understand what this do (and don't like to randomly run stuff w/o knowing), what does it do basically? Dec 31 15:55:54 set some configs, but what's the effect? Dec 31 15:56:01 of them Dec 31 15:56:24 nr_requests is how big the IO queue size is Dec 31 15:56:54 it should be big so the scheduler can reorder requests to get more speed in read/write Dec 31 15:57:03 (sequential stuff is a lot faster) Dec 31 15:57:05 Does dirt expire set to 0 disable expiration, or make it expire immediately? Dec 31 15:57:25 beats me Dec 31 15:58:07 I have dirty background ratio 1 on n**0 :) Dec 31 15:59:02 hm Dec 31 16:00:24 kerio: I assume it should be pasted in bottom before exit 0? Dec 31 16:00:30 yep Dec 31 16:00:38 but i don't want any responsibilities :3 Dec 31 16:00:44 Theory being that I'd rather have it start writing in the background very early Dec 31 16:00:51 ask ShadowJK too, he seems to know what he's talking about Dec 31 16:00:53 *blames kerio in case stuff fail* Dec 31 16:01:04 Disab Dec 31 16:01:20 king TCP timestamps seems just plain crazy Dec 31 16:01:36 why? Dec 31 16:01:46 i copied that part from fmg Dec 31 16:04:34 I assume line 6 should be echo 1? Dec 31 16:04:42 @ ShadowJK @ pastebin Dec 31 16:05:04 instead of 0 that is Dec 31 16:05:14 * freemangordon is not using swappolube ;) Dec 31 16:05:30 No Dec 31 16:05:35 ok Dec 31 16:05:43 Lone 8? Dec 31 16:05:46 Lone Dec 31 16:06:02 asdfg LINE Dec 31 16:06:11 hmm, why 1 in laptop-mode? Dec 31 16:06:12 :p Dec 31 16:06:33 that's crazy aiui Dec 31 16:06:35 uh how did I manage to screw up xchat selection lol Dec 31 16:06:49 laptop-mode might be the only thing saving it from the other crazy Dec 31 16:07:22 ShadowJK: what tweaks do you use, if any? Dec 31 16:07:39 ok I'll try this, but I guess there will be no noticeable difference before I start to do IO heavy stuff Dec 31 16:07:48 The queue length thing, and slice idle thing Dec 31 16:08:16 Swappiness 1 right before heavy IO, 100 normally Dec 31 16:34:36 sourav Dec 31 16:47:31 ShadowJK: what about quantum, fifo_expire_*sync? Dec 31 16:47:59 nfi Dec 31 17:12:12 so Dec 31 17:12:20 ankiqt900 developer here? :) Dec 31 17:13:37 how I can edit shortcuts on one of desctops? Dec 31 17:14:11 what shortcut? Dec 31 17:14:25 what do you want exactly Dec 31 17:15:53 to edit shortcuts behavior just edit the corresponding .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/hildon Dec 31 17:16:11 st - want to make next donation to ankiqt900 package developer :) Dec 31 17:16:11 nd - shortcuts on desktops on my phone, wanna edit cmdlines in it... where they placed in system? Dec 31 17:27:14 ow, I found it :) Dec 31 17:35:53 * DocScrutinizer05 suspects markmx is an irc newbie Dec 31 17:36:13 or has a pretty broken kbd Dec 31 17:36:48 or last nap made me forget what meand "st -" and "nd -" Dec 31 17:37:05 and "ankiqt900" Dec 31 17:37:26 means* Dec 31 17:38:12 1st Dec 31 17:38:12 2nd Dec 31 17:38:12 ankiqt900 - SRS for learning languages... who's nubie, uuu, am oldfag :) Dec 31 17:38:12 ooh, it's an actual pkg it seems Dec 31 17:39:31 anki is great Dec 31 17:40:51 I've never used n900 version though Dec 31 17:40:58 markmx: shortcuts are a tad cumbersome, applauncher icons however are just .desktop files as Sc0rpius said Dec 31 17:41:42 create new *.desktop to your liking, then you can set up a shortcut for it Dec 31 17:41:47 I found it's simple was :) Dec 31 17:42:12 but can't understand how they separetad byt desks Dec 31 17:42:29 ^^^^ Dec 31 17:43:37 there are tools (or howtos) about how to create shortcut on all desks Dec 31 17:43:59 nononono only config files, only hardcore Dec 31 17:44:20 o.O Dec 31 17:44:45 russian style :) Dec 31 17:44:54 in my book a howto is an instruction how to do sth "the hardcore way" Dec 31 17:45:43 and reading tool source is even more russian style Dec 31 17:46:38 honestly you probably don't want to fuzz with hildon screen shortcuts Dec 31 17:46:49 in soviet Rusia, shortcuts create YOU!!! Dec 31 17:47:09 my shortcuts not create but surely define me ;-D Dec 31 17:47:17 so as I сфт ыуу - шт *ювуылещз ашдуы тще мфкшфиду ащк вуылещз тгьююю рь Dec 31 17:47:24 ow shi Dec 31 17:47:26 :) Dec 31 17:47:28 sorry Dec 31 17:49:40 * thedead1440 wishes everybody a happy new year Dec 31 17:49:52 if you want homescreen icons as shortcuts to cmdline, get queen-beecon or desktop-cmdline-shortcut-applet or whatever the neame Dec 31 17:50:02 same to you thedead1440 Dec 31 17:50:04 DocScrutinizer05: shock, horror, maemo.org still seems to be up :p Dec 31 17:50:20 not for long, not for long Dec 31 17:50:28 oh maybe its 0000 finnish time Dec 31 17:50:32 few more hours and it will TURN INTO A PUMPKIN!!! Dec 31 17:50:32 well, another 6h til Finland is moving into 2013 Dec 31 17:51:12 * DocScrutinizer05 already prepared his pumpkin gun Dec 31 17:51:28 hehe pumpkin gun? Dec 31 17:53:19 know potato gun? Dec 31 17:53:50 whats that; your invention? :p Dec 31 17:54:17 Anyone here familiar with maemo mapper? Preferably for OS2008(Diablo) but I am sure this question applies to any of its versions. Dec 31 17:55:56 ~wiki potato gun Dec 31 17:56:01 At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_gun (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{For|the child's toy which fires small pieces of potato|spud gun (toy)}} A 'potato cannon' (also known as a "spud gun" or "spudzooka") is a pipe-based cannon which uses air pressure (pneumatic), or combustion of a gaseous fuel,{{cite journal |last1= Mungan |first1=Carl E. |year=May 2009 |title=Internal ballistics of a pneumatic potato cannon |journal= European Journal of Physics ... Dec 31 17:56:13 eh... if I learnt english, then I'd undrstd what you saying here :) happy NY13 Dec 31 17:56:44 ah that type of gun; DocScrutinizer05 definitely young at heart :D Dec 31 17:58:21 Wulfe: maemo mapper seems a tad outdated and orpkaned, but maybe that's just me. N810 users might still use it Dec 31 17:59:13 I am on a N810 ;) Dec 31 17:59:34 my only problem i have with it is the POI's Dec 31 17:59:54 the url that was used to download them is broken as the maintainer took the site offline. Dec 31 18:00:14 i found a url in the forums to fix routing. Dec 31 18:00:36 but i am having a terrible time just getting a nice complete POI.db for my city Dec 31 18:01:19 if i could just figure out how to export them off my garmin nuvi it would be tons easier...... Dec 31 18:27:56 I guess we have <10 active diablo users in here Dec 31 18:28:33 but odds are one of the 10 eventually drops by and has some helpful info to share Dec 31 18:28:37 so stay tuned Dec 31 18:29:45 * ShadowJK uses diablo but not maemo-mapper for anything except answering "how long does it take for N810 gps" Dec 31 18:37:17 lol Dec 31 19:06:54 once I moved some stuff from ~ to ~/MyDocs Dec 31 19:06:59 then the system froze Dec 31 19:07:10 and I got these files instead Dec 31 19:07:27 ?.{╣g 0?Ç_eQs≡.εt( Z=,πδ?o?.z?y rar!??.És £╔òu&≡?=.?╢ë ècgb(d0?.í!▓ ╕└╛?î÷ûl.a▌┬ Dec 31 19:07:32 how did this happen? Dec 31 19:15:33 what was this "some stuff"? Dec 31 19:15:50 note that MyDocs is a separate filesystem from your home directory Dec 31 19:16:43 (FAT, so maybe some file naming issue?) Dec 31 19:16:57 or, encoding or such Dec 31 19:19:46 joga: yes I know Dec 31 19:19:53 which makes mv take a while Dec 31 19:20:07 but i don't understand why the system freeze Dec 31 19:20:14 basically I got corrupt files Dec 31 19:20:20 but how to solve it? Dec 31 19:20:42 it was just some wav-s also, so fairy big files Dec 31 19:20:49 but not iso-size big Dec 31 19:22:17 writing to the card too fast seems to mess up the system, I forget the workarounds but have gotten it to reboot myself a few times in the middle of a transfer. just slow it down and it may work.. Dec 31 19:23:23 echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness Dec 31 19:23:30 before big file transfers Dec 31 19:24:07 "slow it down" Dec 31 19:24:19 how exactly do I alter the speed of a mv :s Dec 31 19:27:58 well anyway Dec 31 19:28:37 how do I remove this stuff Dec 31 19:28:47 i guess fsck should help me Dec 31 20:04:33 0:00 Dec 31 20:07:08 21:07 Dec 31 21:42:21 screenshots for modRana QML UI improvements: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1309575&postcount=1259 Dec 31 21:42:37 oh and Happy New Year everyone ! :) Dec 31 21:47:25 nappy who ever to you all Dec 31 23:19:01 happy new year everyone Dec 31 23:36:12 ditto Jan 01 00:45:51 happy new year to EMEA Jan 01 00:47:52 EMEA? Jan 01 00:48:58 Europe, Middle East, Africa. And happy new year :-). Jan 01 00:49:18 DocScrutinizer05: its past 1.45 in finland too and maemo.org is up :D Jan 01 00:49:31 yoh, just checked it Jan 01 00:50:14 I new they'd never abandon us! Jan 01 00:50:18 just for fun, since I don't expect anything to happen Jan 01 00:51:05 it's 2:50 in finland Jan 01 00:52:53 i would've expected it to go down at 10 am UTC on december 31st Jan 01 00:52:57 using the kiribati excuse Jan 01 01:02:28 I expect 10am 2nd of January Jan 01 01:03:42 "Well, we said 2013, and it's 2013 somewhere!" Jan 01 01:10:24 ~moo Jan 01 01:10:25 * infobot mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass Jan 01 01:10:40 ~µ Jan 01 01:11:04 I wonder if she segfaulted on that Jan 01 01:11:19 ~segfault Jan 01 01:11:19 surely she's tougher than some unicode Jan 01 01:11:20 from memory, segfault is what asterisk does when it's not given the correct configuration! redo your config! Jan 01 01:11:30 infobot: µ is see moo Jan 01 01:11:31 kerio: i'm not going to learn illegal characters Jan 01 01:11:38 lol Jan 01 01:11:38 infobot: your face is illegal Jan 01 01:11:39 ...but your face is already something else... Jan 01 01:11:49 ...wat Jan 01 01:12:00 she's trolling you Jan 01 01:12:06 lol Jan 01 01:12:51 still laughing Jan 01 01:13:12 we need a qdb Jan 01 01:13:27 ~your face Jan 01 01:13:28 hmm... your face is like an ass, apt. It sucks my dick inside. Jan 01 01:13:38 i don't even Jan 01 01:13:40 ~factinfo your face Jan 01 01:13:41 error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) Jan 01 01:13:41 your face -- created by Cntfenring at Thu Jan 30 23:38:57 2003 (3623 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by kerio, 13s ago. Jan 01 01:14:10 bug yet to be fixed? ok Jan 01 01:14:20 fsckng bogus errormsg! Jan 01 01:14:24 ~useless Jan 01 01:14:25 * infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( Jan 01 01:14:29 nooo :( Jan 01 01:14:36 * kerio hugs infobot Jan 01 01:14:47 ~botsnack Jan 01 01:14:48 thanks, FIQ|n900 Jan 01 01:14:56 DocScrutinizer05: is there a way to program responses to actions like that? Jan 01 01:15:06 no Jan 01 01:15:34 the only other attention key except infobot: and ~ is thanks Jan 01 01:15:56 thanks infobot Jan 01 01:16:04 k Jan 01 01:16:17 and thanks only works for the root personality which changes frequently between apt, infobot, purl, and dunno what Jan 01 01:16:30 ~+uptime Jan 01 01:16:31 - Uptime for apt - Jan 01 01:16:32 Now: 3d 5h 13m 28s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux Jan 01 01:16:32 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 Jan 01 01:16:32 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 Jan 01 01:16:32 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 Jan 01 01:16:35 thanks apt Jan 01 01:16:36 no worries, kerio Jan 01 01:16:40 :3 Jan 01 01:17:27 ibot Jan 01 01:17:31 was the 4thz Jan 01 01:17:38 4. even Jan 01 01:17:57 ~chaninfo Jan 01 01:17:57 123/123 channels, 4613 users, 3286 unique: #debian/1182, #kde/358, #maemo/235, #asterisk/190, #gsoc/177, #meego/143, #wowuidev/142, #harmattan/141, #oe/125, #wowace/120, #arm-netbook/100, #webos-internals/92, #wowhead/91, #openmoko/80, #cubieboard/77, #utah/70, #bzflag/64, #openmoko-cdevel/62, #tomcat/58, #uclibc/56, #edev/53, #n9/49, #curseforge/46, #htc-linux/44, #maemo-ssu/43, #asterisk-dev/41, #/38, #sc2mapster/35, #gllug/34, #elinux/33, ... Jan 01 01:18:02 meh Jan 01 01:20:28 ~ircstats Jan 01 01:20:29 Currently I'm hooked up to chat.freenode.net:6667 but only for 3d 5h 17m 16s. I had to reconnect 4 times. Connectivity: 100.00 % Jan 01 01:24:25 happy new year. Jan 01 01:25:29 same to you Jan 01 01:26:33 fST is the only relevant timezone here Jan 01 01:26:44 and it's the same as UTC Jan 01 01:28:42 ~fst Jan 01 01:28:54 o.O Jan 01 01:28:58 ~wtf fst Jan 01 01:29:00 freenode Standard Time Jan 01 01:29:00 Gee... I don't know what fst means... Jan 01 01:29:11 ~ugt Jan 01 01:29:12 well, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Jan 01 01:30:06 ~fst is freenode Standard Time Jan 01 01:30:07 okay, DocScrutinizer05 Jan 01 01:31:25 fST == gmt+0 Jan 01 01:31:36 FIQ|n900: UTC Jan 01 01:31:46 shh Jan 01 01:31:51 eet **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 01 02:59:57 2013