**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 16 02:59:59 2013 Jan 16 03:40:40 would anyone have proper recommendations for running fsck on /dev/mmcblk0p2? Jan 16 03:45:15 err Jan 16 03:46:46 you could try from BM console Jan 16 03:46:55 That's what I'd do Jan 16 03:47:24 0p2 is what, mydocs? Jan 16 03:47:29 or optfs? Jan 16 03:47:31 otoh it should fsck automatically on boot, when it's not possible to mount r/w Jan 16 03:47:38 home Jan 16 03:47:49 Ah, yeah. Run BM and fsck it Jan 16 03:48:51 I'll point out that I've managed to get the opt/home fs screwed up sometimes due to crashes, such that fsck can't really fix it and destroys more. Jan 16 03:49:01 robbie Jan 16 03:49:03 holy shit Jan 16 03:49:07 just the dude i was ..dang Jan 16 03:49:15 *sigh* Jan 16 03:49:17 So creating images with yer backup menu... Jan 16 03:49:22 Yes? Jan 16 03:49:25 Sometimes i get jacked up system Jan 16 03:49:32 trying to figure out how to fsck manually as it suggests Jan 16 03:49:36 but its already mounted etc Jan 16 03:49:47 trying different combos with the menu options Jan 16 03:49:49 Install Power Kernel Jan 16 03:49:55 kp51 Jan 16 03:50:06 Well, the fsck option should deal with the optfs/rootfs Jan 16 03:50:11 rocking backup menu 0.65 Jan 16 03:50:13 But sometimes it must be messed with manually Jan 16 03:50:35 You've got the terminal option there, right? Jan 16 03:50:52 on the backup menu? Jan 16 03:50:56 no, no terminal option Jan 16 03:51:04 i tried the newest version of yer software, but it didnt work Jan 16 03:51:32 You have to fully remove the old version -- "apt-get remove --purge backupmenu" Jan 16 03:51:51 because some of the application files were considered 'config' files for some reason, so they got left Jan 16 03:51:53 i did it with vanilla pr 1.3 Jan 16 03:52:11 Huh, that's weird then. What error? Jan 16 03:52:37 I cant remember exactly the error...... Since i have issues right now, i can go ahread and reflash Jan 16 03:52:42 the issue being maemo repos are down Jan 16 03:52:57 so i couldnt grab the new version even if i wanted Jan 16 03:53:12 I figured the errors had to be caused by using such an old version, and that bugs had been worked out since then Jan 16 03:53:18 I forget, does 0.65 create image files, or .tar.gz files? Jan 16 03:53:20 0.65 has been pretty much standard issue for me Jan 16 03:53:25 .tar Jan 16 03:53:33 its got several options, i always use the .tar one Jan 16 03:53:41 OK, that's a Version 2 version Jan 16 03:53:43 but when restoring the image, it gives fsck errors Jan 16 03:53:45 a lot Jan 16 03:54:00 Hm, in that case we've got to somehow wipe the disk Jan 16 03:54:03 i can bypass by simply reflashing, reinstalling backup menu, and then reflashing my saved image Jan 16 03:54:28 Do you have anything on mydocs that you want to keep? Jan 16 03:54:44 You should really reflash the eMMC as well - thats where the home partition is locates Jan 16 03:55:07 i always do Jan 16 03:55:16 Hm Jan 16 03:55:18 I flash emmc and the other. Jan 16 03:55:47 hmm Jan 16 03:55:49 tell u what robbie Jan 16 03:55:58 Yes? Jan 16 03:56:04 Actually, let me see Jan 16 03:56:18 let me see if i can figure the fsck issue out, do u have a mirror of backup menu and the associated required debs handy? One that u trust? Jan 16 03:56:45 I'm looking for it Jan 16 03:56:53 k Jan 16 03:56:56 I've got a copy of my own package on my site... somwhere Jan 16 03:57:22 @DocScrutinizer05, do we have a repo up at all? Jan 16 03:57:28 Depends: bootmenu, tar-gnu, i2c-tools, mtd-utils Jan 16 03:58:18 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1315143&postcount=96 Jan 16 03:58:20 http://robbiethe1st.afraid.org/BackupMenu/ I've got two things here - Version 1.1.1(possibly a couple versions old) Jan 16 03:58:28 u trust that one DocScrutinizer05 ? Jan 16 03:58:32 i saw u post it Jan 16 03:58:33 etc.. Jan 16 03:58:39 just wasnt sure how trust worthy the mirror was Jan 16 03:58:44 and a flashable rootfs image, with BM installed http://robbiethe1st.afraid.org/BackupMenu/flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img Jan 16 03:58:46 lol, "I made it" Jan 16 03:58:51 Ah Jan 16 03:58:52 Well Jan 16 03:59:35 so yes, 100% Jan 16 03:59:39 Okay, good to go =) Jan 16 03:59:51 Pretty careful with what i put on my n900 =) Jan 16 04:00:01 I'd be too Jan 16 04:00:08 robbiethe1st, hey man, first time in here, and I'd just like to say THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BACKUPMENU!!! Jan 16 04:01:34 I'm just glad it helps. Jan 16 04:01:41 Damn helpful Jan 16 04:01:46 robbiethe1st, DUDE - SO MUCH Jan 16 04:01:46 Never have to recreate Jan 16 04:01:48 only reflash Jan 16 04:01:55 seriously Jan 16 04:02:26 good boy :-P Jan 16 04:03:11 At the time, I ran into the same thing. I put a lot of others' work together and made something useful. The only thing I can really say is, when faced with a problem like this on other platforms and such... Fix it! Do it yourself, help someone who can if you can't. Jan 16 04:03:18 I Jan 16 04:03:49 I'm absolutely amazed how something as simple as a bash script ended up making the N900 so much easier to hack on Jan 16 04:04:56 robbiethe1st, yeah man, totally agreed! Jan 16 04:16:35 \o/ fail2ban kicked me from my own server ;-P Jan 16 04:17:41 DocScrutinizer05, you typo'd your password too much? Jan 16 04:18:05 nah, fail2ban acts on other levels too Jan 16 04:18:13 404 for example Jan 16 04:18:21 Gotcha. Jan 16 05:13:14 the hell, maemo.org responded to traceroute Jan 16 05:13:25 14 * 188.117.59.200 [open] 2285.535 ms -14.377 ms Jan 16 05:13:39 I see my quantum fiberoptic internet is working nicely Jan 16 05:19:06 I got more than one pong with negative latency... the fuck is that fw doing :-) Jan 16 05:20:02 * DocScrutinizer05 feels a strange urge to kick that FW completely out Jan 16 05:21:26 actually a firewall is a rather strange concept anyway Jan 16 05:26:43 "maemo.org service break on Sunday (2010-10-03)" Jan 16 05:26:49 was the backup a bit old.. Jan 16 05:32:51 huh? Jan 16 05:33:17 got that on maemo.org just now :) Jan 16 05:33:31 maybe it gets hidden if static.maemo.org was alive Jan 16 05:34:04 oh lol Jan 16 05:37:37 fun bit, I removed the trailing / from my URLs and wiki, m.o, and garage loaded immediately. Before I hit F5 like 50 times and always "timeout on port" Jan 16 05:37:53 err socket operation Jan 16 05:39:30 indeed without static everything looks rather strange, or even useless Jan 16 05:40:04 been CSSU banner ad there in 2010? Jan 16 05:43:08 particularly wiki looks like.... xxx Jan 16 05:44:37 hello everybody Jan 16 05:46:36 I run Linux Kernel 3.6.11-rt25 on both server and desktop. On Server I do not see any bigger difference, but for desktop I would dicourage anybody to use it unless that person would have good reason to do so. I am thinking about trying it out on N900 and see how it does behave. Jan 16 05:49:56 WizardNumberNext: with a lot of hacking, a few individuals have got maemo boot with a 3.x kernel. You are more likely to have far better success with it if you boot other OSes Jan 16 05:51:45 Sicelo, Pali have booted 3.8-rc3 (rescue-OS) and I do have both patches and kernel+initrd from him. I just need to wait till 3.8 would be released, as it is next RT target. Jan 16 05:52:32 yes, i know :P Jan 16 05:52:50 and obviously I have to create initrd for 3.8 tuned to 3.8 Jan 16 05:53:07 s/to 3.8/to maemo/ Jan 16 05:53:08 WizardNumberNext meant: and obviously I have to create initrd for 3.8 tuned to maemo Jan 16 05:54:23 and if it comes to Pali's kernel, only he knows if it was hacking or clean programming Jan 16 05:55:06 hacking ;-) Jan 16 05:55:29 mixing patches from meego + some of his own Jan 16 05:56:25 I fail to get the point of such experiments, tbh - particularly if rt25 means what it suggests to me Jan 16 05:57:53 We probably don't have anything with realtime priority in maemo Jan 16 05:58:36 these -rt things that reappear regulary generally drop overall performance Jan 16 05:58:39 * Sicelo doesn't even know what it means, lol Jan 16 05:59:40 Actually the infrared stuff might be closest to realtime lol Jan 16 06:00:14 WizardNumberNext: with that said, Pali is doing a great job, imo, especially that he's also pushing stuff upstream Jan 16 06:03:06 ShadowJK: it is tradeof - either longer latencies and higher performance without preemption or latency and drop in performance and shorter latencies with preemption Jan 16 06:03:27 Sicelo: I do agree, he is doing great job Jan 16 06:05:48 actually first thing, which was hit by RT was pulseaudio - it doesn't work properly with priority of 9 or bigger (nice -11), bur seams to work flawlesly with priority 0 (nice -20) Jan 16 06:06:31 I am looking how to switch pulseaudio to RT priority (but not too big though) Jan 16 06:07:12 there isn't supposed to be any preemption of things running at RT priorities, btw :p Jan 16 06:09:22 ShadowJK: pulseaudio have to be preemtible, as it uses so many libraries and stuff. In my case non-preemtible pulseaudio would have problem to make my desktop sound, as I I run jackd2 between pa and actuall sound card Jan 16 06:10:09 It's probably not designed to run realtime if it would hang as non-preemptible Jan 16 06:12:35 You'd think pa would be fully eventdriven.. Jan 16 06:13:36 As for making mp3 playback stop skipping, if someone could make mafw use a 5 second input file buffer... :) Jan 16 06:14:12 and at the "realtime" IO priority Jan 16 06:17:29 and also fadvise() sequential for mp3/aac :) Jan 16 06:18:02 ShadowJK: preempt-RT is simply more preemtible kernel, then full preempt-desktop Jan 16 06:25:13 btw I just have to repeat myself: realtime doesn't mean "fast", it just guarantees that response time to events is not exceeding an arbitrary upper limit Jan 16 06:25:32 even to just a set of clearly defined events Jan 16 06:26:40 and that response time upper limit could be like 60 seconds and the system still would meet realtime specs if those 60 are guaranteed Jan 16 06:43:02 DocScrutinizer05: I know about that Jan 16 07:14:23 hi. what are the main working repositories? Jan 16 09:02:01 DId the latest community update fix the recent Turkish SSL problem? Jan 16 09:13:28 fasta: yep Jan 16 09:13:42 the two intermediate CAs that were released by mistake are blacklisted Jan 16 09:14:08 Does a community update update the firmware? Jan 16 09:15:25 firmware? Jan 16 09:15:38 fasta: not yet Jan 16 09:45:40 moo, ab Jan 16 09:45:47 RST38h: boo Jan 16 11:04:40 I am getting the same issue as S.Korean "hash mismatch" by using temporary mirror of repos from skeiron.org http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88031&page=10 Jan 16 11:04:58 Seems like user Azril also got the same problem Jan 16 11:06:34 Is there a solution? Jan 16 11:10:48 * jonwil has decided to ignore the migration hassles and various assorted crap and do something useful by reverse engineering various things connected to GPRS Jan 16 11:11:13 go go jonwil" Jan 16 11:11:17 ! Jan 16 11:12:30 maybe I can figure out connui-iapsettings-gprs or libicd-network-gprs Jan 16 11:12:49 I know there are people that need support for multiple GPRS APs and easy siwtch between them Jan 16 11:14:24 first though I need food :) Jan 16 11:36:52 Ex-Opesa: the nokia repositories still work, and merlin's mirrors of extras-devel and community-testing work for me Jan 16 11:37:14 so i'm going to mark your problem as "bad repo" or "bad client" Jan 16 11:37:17 because Jan 16 11:37:18 ~fapman Jan 16 11:37:19 i heard fapman is Faster Application Manager, a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it, ever Jan 16 11:45:14 fapman is as dangerous as the person using it:) Jan 16 11:45:16 kind of like rm Jan 16 13:22:51 ~fapman Jan 16 13:22:51 fapman is probably Faster Application Manager, a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it, ever Jan 16 13:53:27 (/.-) fapman... Jan 16 14:34:42 Greetings Jan 16 14:43:16 I can nslookup repository.maemo.org, but apt-get update can't connect to it, do we have to wait again ? Jan 16 14:43:42 sidh: People are working on it as far as I am aware. Kindly be patient. Jan 16 14:43:47 (I have read thread 1314588 from talk.maemo.org) Jan 16 14:44:10 ok it was just to know if the problrm could come from my side Jan 16 14:44:20 no problem, i will try tommorrow Jan 16 14:44:47 repository. was taken down for a while to try to diagnose the problem Jan 16 14:45:14 ok I understand Jan 16 14:53:04 sidh, maemo using dnsmasq with cache Jan 16 14:53:16 maybe you need also to restart dnsmasq Jan 16 14:53:25 to drop/reload cache Jan 16 15:02:27 can anyone help me in making kpv51r1 uboot entry Jan 16 15:03:27 lunde: apt-get install kernel-power-bootimg Jan 16 15:04:42 hehe AFAIK but this method doesn't work on thumb field :P Jan 16 15:05:05 just keep kernel-power-flasher installed Jan 16 15:05:26 with fiasco-image-update-ask, you get a prompt on every flash, so you can avoid flashing over your uboot Jan 16 15:10:54 DocScrutinizer05, ping Jan 16 15:21:46 lunde: by kpv51r1 i guess you mean kernel-power, kernel-power-modules and kernel-power-flasher? Jan 16 15:22:05 right Jan 16 15:22:20 why do you want to install uboot? Jan 16 15:22:53 wanna install nitdroid Jan 16 15:26:06 lunde: install u-boot-flasher and kernel-power-bootimg Jan 16 15:26:10 without uninstalling anything Jan 16 15:26:35 but you'll be in a flaky situation Jan 16 15:30:33 once you've installed kernel-power-bootimg, do ln -s /etc/bootmenu.d/20- and then rerun u-boot-update-bootmenu Jan 16 15:34:16 ok will report back Jan 16 15:36:12 ...why am i doing this Jan 16 15:39:36 sorry didn't understand what you mean Jan 16 16:02:29 The http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU is down, hence asking here, how to enable (add catalogue, which are the entries?) CSSU in my n900? Jan 16 16:25:19 dimir: repository.maemo.org is down at the moment Jan 16 16:25:35 (it's a temporary thing) Jan 16 17:26:13 how do i diagnose missing cover art in mediaplayer/OMP? Jan 16 18:05:24 GeneralAntilles: pong Jan 16 18:53:40 the skeiron.org mirror is working with hash sum mismatch error resolved finally FYI... Jan 16 18:54:12 as before links to be gotten from: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1315143&postcount=96 Jan 16 18:55:29 and - on a sidenote - *.maemo.org central services is mostly in business again Jan 16 18:55:54 at least for the non-repository stuff like Jan 16 18:55:57 ~flash Jan 16 18:55:58 maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jan 16 18:56:23 DocScrutinizer05: it has no css formatting right? Jan 16 18:56:35 CSS from static.maemo.org still missing, so anticipate some fsckup in rendering/formatting Jan 16 18:56:46 ok Jan 16 18:57:22 chem|st: ping Jan 16 19:02:30 pong Jan 16 19:04:49 DocScrutinizer05: pong Jan 16 19:04:52 you're in contact with Reggie? Jan 16 19:04:58 semi Jan 16 19:05:11 tried to get me at 3.5am... Jan 16 19:05:30 you're checking state of tmo DNS every 15min? ;-P Jan 16 19:06:12 nope Jan 16 19:06:13 anyway, just sent a answer mail (hope you been in CC) Jan 16 19:06:20 yes been! Jan 16 19:06:22 green light for tmo move Jan 16 19:06:51 as tmo wasn't affected by bandwidth issues there was never a red one Jan 16 19:06:59 ;) Jan 16 19:07:08 hah, you never know Jan 16 19:07:23 such a firewall can do funny things Jan 16 19:10:00 and since the vservers are a xen-grid now, you never know on which rack a particular VM just sits - aiui. Ask wirr or Jan 16 19:10:06 ~sysop-wanted Jan 16 19:10:06 i heard sysop-wanted is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-15.log.html#t2013-01-15T23:34:52 Jan 16 19:11:47 actully I'm not sure if xen-grid does dynamic move of VM like vmware-sgx or what's it called Jan 16 19:16:09 DocScrutinizer05: it's a xen-grid, it shouldn't matter which rack a particular VM sits on :) Jan 16 19:18:25 kerio: for chem|st's assumption that there been no bandwidth issues to new tmo VM it been the one and only argument Jan 16 19:19:45 while my assumption been that traffic shaper didn't throttle the really sparse traffic to new-tmo since... it's so sparse Jan 16 19:20:08 by switching DNs this would've changed instantly Jan 16 19:20:13 DNS* Jan 16 19:20:28 * DocScrutinizer05 needs an auto-replace for DNs->DNS Jan 16 20:15:10 I created git repo for upstream kernel with n900/maemo patches on gitorious: https://gitorious.org/linux-n900/linux-n900 Jan 16 20:15:21 Skry, freemangordon ^^^^ Jan 16 20:24:18 jacekowski: ping Jan 16 20:25:18 jacekowski: what is fremantle 1.2 1.3 etc - like here http://maemo.jacekowski.org/mirror/repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/ [/parrot-mode] Jan 16 20:26:27 DocScrutinizer05: ssu for pr1.2/1.3? Jan 16 20:27:12 *thought* as much Jan 16 20:29:12 i'm not sure who's supposed to use the 1.3 one instead of the generic one, though Jan 16 20:29:27 i think that pr 1.3 starts with the generic one Jan 16 20:32:28 brkn: md5sum `find`|sort|tee raw-all.md5sum|awk foo|uniq -D|xarg grep errr-TBD Jan 16 20:32:52 wat Jan 16 20:33:28 kerio: find duplicate files and print Jan 16 20:33:33 repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists has fremantle, fremantle 1.2 + fremantle 1.3, however pool is fremantle only Jan 16 20:33:44 which is weird. Jan 16 20:33:54 isn't pool just pool? Jan 16 20:34:00 it holds multiple versions Jan 16 20:35:05 let's see Jan 16 20:35:25 i still wonder whereh 1.2 and 1.3 comes from cause i mirrored everything according to wiki. Jan 16 20:36:02 which friggin confrence in Buenos Aires will invite me for two weeks now? Jan 16 20:36:52 incl flight and accommodation, please Jan 16 20:37:06 2 weeks! Jan 16 20:37:09 ;-P Jan 16 20:38:00 why not bora bora instead? Jan 16 20:38:39 I don't actually care as long as it's between 0°and 35°S lat Jan 16 20:38:46 factory sealed N900 for sale on tmo http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315560#post1315560 Jan 16 20:40:04 DANG! US Jan 16 20:41:15 indeed dang :( Jan 16 20:41:35 my led controller thing has completly died I think Jan 16 20:41:48 DocScrutinizer05: were you thinking of buying *another* n900? Jan 16 20:41:53 too bad, looking for a new phone but no idea what :/ Jan 16 20:42:00 nothing can compare to an n900 :/ Jan 16 20:42:00 Gh0sty: a n900, obviously Jan 16 20:42:29 My N900 just developed a white spot on screen again and I'm tempted, but... no money Jan 16 20:42:38 yeah nothing can replace N900 - excapt another N900 Jan 16 20:43:29 white spots are from overly mechanic pressure Jan 16 20:43:53 ruining the LCD separator, I guess Jan 16 20:44:27 or the light spreader Jan 16 20:44:35 (unlikely) Jan 16 20:45:08 DocScrutinizer05: you could still ask the dude if he's willing to ship to euroep Jan 16 20:45:09 *europe Jan 16 20:45:18 but really, do you need yet another n900? Jan 16 20:45:44 yeah, my screenprotector has a scratch just where the new white spot is Jan 16 20:45:50 kerio: nah, this guy is so cool, I am not jaleous to the US community Jan 16 20:45:57 no i wont buy another n900 Jan 16 20:46:01 but I swear I didn't hit it anywhere... Jan 16 20:46:10 my old one was full of those Jan 16 20:46:11 specifically also because i wont give any money to nokia anymore :( Jan 16 20:46:18 they fucked it all up! Jan 16 20:46:37 Gh0sty: buying a n900 = buying a used n900 Jan 16 20:46:37 Gh0sty: you won't give money to nokie Jan 16 20:46:44 and again the only abuse I did, was using fingernails on the keyboard, ruining the paint Jan 16 20:47:01 common Jan 16 20:47:17 * DocScrutinizer05 searching for a few new keymats, qwerty Jan 16 20:47:34 anyway that one was stolen so nothing to worry... Jan 16 20:48:05 btw no I remember: it's the tin-oxide structuring that gets ruined by pressure Jan 16 20:48:12 causing the white spots Jan 16 20:49:13 the transparent electrodes have a mechanical surface structure (micro scars in one direction, for molecules of LC to orient on that) Jan 16 20:49:49 excessive pressure making electrodes touch each other will ruin that structure Jan 16 20:50:40 my scarface device has like 9 of those white spots Jan 16 20:50:46 :-S Jan 16 20:50:58 scarface device? Jan 16 20:51:15 I gave them names Jan 16 20:51:54 scarface been 3rd, bought used Jan 16 20:53:04 there are also Iron900, T900, blue, and gift Jan 16 20:53:54 i guess its not too easy to replace a whole screen unit? :) Jan 16 20:54:15 it's extremely easy to relace a whole screen unit Jan 16 20:54:25 once you got a replacement Jan 16 20:54:43 4 screws and one b2b-connector aka plug Jan 16 20:55:06 nobody has a white spot unit for sale with working led controller? :p Jan 16 20:55:54 defects on LP5523? :-o Jan 16 20:55:55 you forget that if you buy an n900, used, you're given that other person money, who may then well give it to nokia though (indirect sponsoring ;) Jan 16 20:56:31 yeah, or my butcher does that with the money I pay for may steak Jan 16 20:56:38 s/may/pay/ Jan 16 20:56:39 DocScrutinizer05 meant: yeah, or my butcher does that with the money I pay for pay steak Jan 16 20:56:53 damn that man! No more steak! :p Jan 16 20:56:57 s/may/my/ Jan 16 20:56:58 DocScrutinizer05 meant: yeah, or my butcher does that with the money I pay for my steak Jan 16 20:57:42 Is there a documented corellation of butchers and Nokia? Jan 16 20:58:04 look at all those butchered N900 ;-P Jan 16 20:59:15 to butcher the LP5523 LED controller though, I wouldn't know what to do to achieve that Jan 16 20:59:37 Gh0sty: your kbd backlight also defect? Jan 16 21:00:51 (I know you theoretically could kill the SoC with LP5523) Jan 16 21:01:11 (but not the other way round) Jan 16 21:33:13 Good evening / day / night / whatever everyone =) Jan 16 21:36:32 good UGT :) Jan 16 21:37:16 =) Jan 16 21:37:33 jyrjyr: http://thinkmoult.com/ugt.html Jan 16 21:37:45 ah =D Jan 16 21:37:58 may come in handy :) Jan 16 21:38:08 very nice, had no idea that problem had been solved =D Jan 16 21:38:15 yes, thank you very much =D Jan 16 21:39:35 you're welcome :) Jan 16 21:45:18 OK, wiki.maemo.org up, repository.maemo.org still down. Jan 16 21:45:37 Any estimates when it'll be up? Jan 16 21:49:55 welcome jyrjyr, one more sysop volunteer for maemo.org! Jan 16 21:50:15 thanks, nice to be here =) Jan 16 22:03:51 Ah, seems it'll be back up very soon: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1314588#post1314588 Jan 16 22:22:32 !tiny http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1314588#post1314588 Jan 16 22:32:17 been thinking about building a little cluster with n900's =) Jan 16 23:10:20 DocScrutinizer05: i can't remember now Jan 16 23:11:03 DocScrutinizer05: but iirc one is for pr1.3 and other for pr1.2 and freemantle is the same as pr1.3 Jan 16 23:13:27 jacekowski: thanks! brkn^^^ Jan 16 23:23:06 hmm, wiki.m.o and m.o frontpage and everything beyond it is fast as lightning. garage.m.o though sucks Jan 16 23:26:17 And repository still down. ;( Jan 16 23:27:07 yes, repo is waiting for a DNS change to be done by Nokia Jan 16 23:28:00 however rest of infra needs a check what's up and running, and what's still having issues or MIA completely Jan 16 23:29:27 I'd appreciate when some of you would check whatever they can think of, and report back here - please try to only list each subsystem entity once, as there's no use in e.g. checking every subpage of wiki.maemo.org/* Jan 16 23:30:24 I'll start with Jan 16 23:30:48 Hi Jan 16 23:30:53 wiki.maemo.org/* OK, login OK, editing OK Jan 16 23:30:57 I have a problem with dbus Jan 16 23:31:24 My application is able to initialize context if I run from a user-terminal Jan 16 23:31:50 But from a root context (such as init-scripts) I get this error: osso.exceptions.OssoException: Cannot initialize context. Jan 16 23:31:59 garage.maemo.org NOT OK, unresponsive/slow Jan 16 23:32:01 su user -c /home/user/bin/magnet-daemon.py Jan 16 23:32:18 And I'm not even running it as root, I'm running su first to run it as user Jan 16 23:32:25 any ideas? Jan 16 23:32:49 (I get the same error if I don't use su, and just run it as root) Jan 16 23:33:09 MrOpposite: try run-standalone.sh /home/user/bin/magnet-daemon.py Jan 16 23:33:27 thanks! Jan 16 23:34:01 (That daemon is btw just listening for me clicking magnet URL's in the browser Jan 16 23:34:14 then sending them to my servers web-torrent client) Jan 16 23:34:26 :-) Jan 16 23:35:55 Doc: also lists is still down. Jan 16 23:36:18 Otherwise, getting the same as you... Jan 16 23:36:55 Hmm Jan 16 23:37:45 I should probably make my code a bit nicer, use config files, package the application and upload it to the repositories Jan 17 00:34:12 Woody14619: yeah Jan 17 00:34:42 garage account creation confirmation mails NOT OK Jan 17 00:35:29 lists.maemo.org probably NOT OK Jan 17 00:41:44 does repository.maemo.org work? Jan 17 00:50:42 it seems to me the dns issue isn't resolved yet so no, repository doesn't work yet Jan 17 00:51:10 also, since dns information is cached, it will take some time before it starts to work even after nokia has updated their dns Jan 17 00:52:10 if i got it right, there should be information here on how to access the repository while the dns issue remains: http://mwkn.net/2013/01/community.html Jan 17 01:04:18 TMO is down? Jan 17 01:05:01 DocScrutinizer05^^^ Jan 17 01:05:19 ooh, it's down now? Jan 17 01:05:35 Reggie is busy moving Jan 17 01:05:47 its not down, it's closed Jan 17 01:05:59 hi reggie_! :-)) Jan 17 01:06:16 hey Jan 17 01:06:33 just pestered you on new server ;-9 Jan 17 01:06:41 ;-) Jan 17 01:07:00 ? Jan 17 01:07:00 reggie_: what means "it's closed"? Jan 17 01:07:21 i mean, the forum is off now since I'm running a backup Jan 17 01:07:27 (pestered) meh, I sent a "wall" Jan 17 01:09:54 reggie_: since basically we're good now with our Firewall/bandwidth issues on *.maemo.org, you're free to point your itt DNS to new server any time you like, if that's what you planned to do to handle the DNs switchover Jan 17 01:10:34 well, I'm moving servers as well so there will be some interruptions Jan 17 01:11:27 you know tmo DNS is a CNAME to itt now? Jan 17 01:12:01 yes Jan 17 01:12:29 did you ask Nokia to do that change? since last week it been a proper A record iirc Jan 17 01:12:39 so garage.maemo.org died peacefully and we can't upload packages anymore? Jan 17 01:12:58 i didn't ask nokia Jan 17 01:13:24 it seems the whole maemo.org thing is down Jan 17 01:13:35 I wonder who decided to do that change from A to CNAME, or if I'm just wrong Jan 17 01:13:48 Sc0rpius: huh? Jan 17 01:14:08 i can see http://maemo.org Jan 17 01:14:11 WTF is static.maemo.org:81 ? Jan 17 01:14:13 http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Jan 17 01:14:18 WFM Jan 17 01:14:23 Pali, yes Jan 17 01:14:29 yeah wiki works Jan 17 01:14:34 but garage.maemo.org doesn't Jan 17 01:14:37 talk.maemo.org doesn't Jan 17 01:14:44 *sigh* Jan 17 01:14:48 hush and listen Jan 17 01:15:00 read backscroll, just a mere 20 lines please Jan 17 01:15:43 hmmm changed hosts? DNS not updated? Jan 17 01:15:56 Sc0rpius: yes Jan 17 01:16:04 and just now? what a bad luck Jan 17 01:16:07 I was about to upload a package Jan 17 01:16:21 sorry I can't help >:-/ Jan 17 01:16:44 well I guess we have to wait a couple of hours Jan 17 01:16:52 most DNS entries in the SOA has a TTL of 3600 seconds Jan 17 01:17:04 I guess you have to wait and let us do our "job" Jan 17 01:17:14 I guess Jan 17 01:17:19 in the meantime, I?m very hungry so Jan 17 01:17:23 thanks Jan 17 01:17:46 reggie_: what are your plans with the DNS now? Jan 17 01:18:10 none really. it's eero who's talking to nokia Jan 17 01:18:36 i actually ran into a ex-nokia maemo developer on another channel Jan 17 01:18:37 yep, so you don't plan to redirect itt DNS to new server? Jan 17 01:18:59 Intel hired a lot of them apparently.. He's still in finland Jan 17 01:19:22 if i do, it'll be after the 20th. when i have everything moved to another server Jan 17 01:19:37 :nod: Jan 17 01:20:03 so tmo is in service mode now, and eventually (some hours) will come up r/o again? Jan 17 01:20:20 yes correct Jan 17 01:20:32 very good, thanks a lot for all your help Jan 17 01:20:39 np Jan 17 01:20:50 backing up the db now Jan 17 01:21:20 is it r7o for everybody or could I update http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1314588 ? Jan 17 01:21:36 (once it's up again) Jan 17 01:21:57 yes. it'll be r/o for everyone Jan 17 01:22:03 ok Jan 17 01:22:53 any ETA on when the new vserver is operational? Jan 17 01:24:09 not really. the request was made monday. i thought it would have propagated by now --that is if the dns change was made. Jan 17 01:24:26 nah, not the DNS change Jan 17 01:24:35 oh vserver Jan 17 01:24:40 server for what? Jan 17 01:24:45 tmo Jan 17 01:25:12 i.e. http://188.117.59.209/showthread.php?p=1314588 Jan 17 01:42:15 scp: /var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/fremantle: No such file or directory Jan 17 01:42:17 :( Jan 17 01:42:23 well at least it's responding to SSH :) Jan 17 02:26:04 So, my battery is dead, I went ahead and decided to do some soldering and whatnot, I now have a hardline connection to my charger.... Jan 17 02:26:10 Im able to flash the emmc successfully Jan 17 02:26:16 however When trying to flash the 2nd part Jan 17 02:26:22 it gives me the following error: Jan 17 02:26:23 Flashing cmt-mcusw... Sending request 0x50 failed: Protocol error Jan 17 02:26:48 in r&d mode it reports: no initfs \0/ Jan 17 02:27:01 There are a bunch of threads on this Jan 17 02:27:06 but the maemo forum is down right now... Jan 17 02:27:12 Would appreciate any help i could get Jan 17 02:35:12 "hardline connection to charger" sounds disturbing, what exactly did you do? Jan 17 02:35:26 Soldered the wires from the charger to the pts on the phone itself Jan 17 02:35:28 Works fine Jan 17 02:35:38 but prior to my battery dying, i was in the middle of a flash Jan 17 02:35:42 hence the no initfs Jan 17 02:35:53 So now, whilst waiting on my new battery, i hacked a solution Jan 17 02:35:59 But ive never had this issue flashing before Jan 17 02:36:04 tons of hits, but all on maemo forums Jan 17 02:36:10 Which is why i asked here Jan 17 02:36:26 gunna try an older version here in a second, just gotta find an extension cord Jan 17 02:36:54 the windowmanager on my n900 crashed... Jan 17 02:37:06 which pts on phone? Jan 17 02:37:31 r00t; cssu-thumb one has been doing that on me Jan 17 02:37:48 where the battery terminals would connect Jan 17 02:38:20 It's funny because normally any system-app crashing leads to it being restarted or a device reboot Jan 17 02:38:39 stole the idea from http://renerento.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/nokia-n900-wireless-charging/ Jan 17 02:38:44 and what charger? Jan 17 02:38:50 factory charger fdrom nokia Jan 17 02:38:59 Nothing out of the ordinary here Jan 17 02:39:17 the only reason i could switch to xchat was that i could click it's notification bubble Jan 17 02:39:25 that's going to overvolt the battery bus on the phone :/ Jan 17 02:39:36 backup menu pops up Jan 17 02:39:38 just fine Jan 17 02:39:43 can interact and everything Jan 17 02:40:54 So you think the overvoltage could cause the protocol error? Jan 17 02:41:10 it'll probably crash/reboot or do funny stuff the moment the modem is turned on, too :) Jan 17 02:41:47 So you think be patient, and wait on new battery Jan 17 02:41:58 Or do you think ive done permanent irreversable damage? Jan 17 02:45:46 Well I know for sure that N900 isn't entirely stable when fed through charger->usbport without battery Jan 17 02:46:07 i didnt think it could run without the battery, and i tried Jan 17 02:46:12 And that power from battery is probably not designed for more than 4.2V Jan 17 02:46:16 until i did the hardpoint solder, nothing worked Jan 17 02:46:19 erm Jan 17 02:46:27 the charger is like 5. something Jan 17 02:47:15 5.34 Jan 17 02:47:19 vDC Jan 17 02:47:37 Software doesn't permit it by default Jan 17 02:47:55 and about .04 ma Jan 17 02:48:00 Nods Jan 17 02:48:15 So do you think I screwed up the hardware by doing this? =) Jan 17 02:48:47 You know, attaching 3 D alkalines to the terminals is probably marginally safer and a bit more stable :-) Jan 17 02:49:07 hmm Jan 17 02:49:08 nfi Jan 17 02:49:15 fuckin a Jan 17 02:49:17 doing it right now! Jan 17 02:50:06 great idea Jan 17 02:51:57 Hah, thank u defcon XX, due to the badge, i have a handy 4.5 circuit already built! Jan 17 02:56:55 * thedead1440 misses tmo... Jan 17 02:59:36 ShadowJK: Dope dude, Dope **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 17 03:00:00 2013