**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 21 02:59:58 2013 Jan 21 03:00:31 I think everybody sleeps on #nvidia channel. I asked question ages ago and no answer yet Jan 21 03:01:20 WizardNumberNext: thanks for ur valuable inputs as well Jan 21 03:01:46 UberNeo: you are welcome Jan 21 03:02:37 I use Debian from release of sarge (3.1) i revision 0 Jan 21 03:02:50 s/i re/in re/ Jan 21 03:02:50 WizardNumberNext meant: I use Debian from release of sarge (3.1) in revision 0 Jan 21 03:03:56 so I have some experience with GNU/Linux. I have been using other distros previously, but Debian is best so far. Jan 21 03:05:34 seems like some issues with teh Mirror Repos Jan 21 03:05:46 i have used http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88707 . Extras Repo Jan 21 03:05:51 mirror 1 Jan 21 03:06:05 but failed to get the package contents Jan 21 03:06:34 any luck with anybody .. to install packages from Mirror 1 Jan 21 03:06:47 UberNeo: if it is merlin1991's repo mirror, then it didn't work for me - hash sums wrong Jan 21 03:07:25 WizardNumberNext: i used http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ Jan 21 03:07:34 wiz i did read it but that wasnt what i was wanting to know. =p Jan 21 03:07:56 I didn't use it. I use the other one, not merlin, not italian Jan 21 03:08:29 skeiron Jan 21 03:08:33 it seams to work Jan 21 03:08:45 does skeiron . works fine . Jan 21 03:09:05 I am using Faster Applicatin Manager Jan 21 03:09:40 !FAM Jan 21 03:09:44 ~fam Jan 21 03:09:45 extra, extra, read all about it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it, ever Jan 21 03:10:16 I never even tried to try to use fapman Jan 21 03:10:24 infobot: the generic default application manager is very slow . Jan 21 03:10:24 that's too long, UberNeo Jan 21 03:10:58 what else do u suggest . as Application Manager Jan 21 03:11:12 UberNeo: infobot is a BOT. it saves us to type away what we want to say Jan 21 03:12:09 how does infobot works then . so there is no person behind infobot Jan 21 03:12:24 UberNeo: you can use plain apt. I tried aptitude, but it always catches SIGSEGV - segmentation fault Jan 21 03:12:36 apt-get works great Jan 21 03:12:38 no there is nobody behind it Jan 21 03:12:47 real men use apt-get Jan 21 03:12:54 ~apt-get Jan 21 03:12:55 i guess apt-get is the best thing the world ever had it's highly addictive and much different than dselect, it's a womans desire, ribbed for her pleasure, a superb text-adventure for tarzeau, now with Super Cow Powers, the kdeinit of package managers, overrated and overused, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200201/msg01699.html, or apt-get install synaptic for a gui client, or the shiznit, or see apt-cache, or ask me about ... Jan 21 03:13:07 Snafu777: I agree - I use apt-get if I know what I am looking for Jan 21 03:13:12 apt-cache search Jan 21 03:13:16 to find what u want Jan 21 03:13:37 hildon application manager sucks donkey balls, faster application manager breaks stuff....therefore we're left with apt-get Jan 21 03:13:56 yes, ham is extremely slow Jan 21 03:14:06 I wish aptitude would work Jan 21 03:14:44 I love aptitude - I use as long as long I use Debian Jan 21 03:14:48 simply love it Jan 21 03:14:56 but FAM .. gives the complete list of application in a very easy readable way Jan 21 03:15:09 but it breaks stuff Jan 21 03:16:03 if I would have choice between fapman and apt-get and there would nothing else, then I would stick to apt-get Jan 21 03:16:10 at least it does work Jan 21 03:16:25 ... as expected Jan 21 03:16:45 WizardNumberNext, wo says nobody is behind me? I'm not sufficient for you? Jan 21 03:17:04 * infobot cries Jan 21 03:17:10 apt-get is almost as old as Debian Jan 21 03:17:20 who is playing with infobot? Jan 21 03:17:43 ~botsnack Jan 21 03:17:43 :), Skry Jan 21 03:17:56 not to worry infobot, I can care about you same as about my beloved hal Jan 21 03:18:16 and I don't mean Hardware Abstraction Layer Jan 21 03:18:28 Skry: nice Jan 21 03:19:01 can we zoom in the running video in N900 Jan 21 03:19:30 i prefered apt-get because of multiple installing. hap only does one at a time. Jan 21 03:19:32 I am not sure about default player, but in mplayer you can Jan 21 03:19:35 UberNeo: get cssu, there's a zoom option in tv settings Jan 21 03:20:17 not meant for arbitrary live zooms Jan 21 03:20:30 DocScrutinizer05: cssu? you mean testing? Jan 21 03:20:57 I mean CSSU-Testing, if that's what you mean by "testing" Jan 21 03:21:17 yes, that is what I meant Jan 21 03:21:27 there's also a maemo-testing repository, which is completely unrelated Jan 21 03:22:10 usualy I avoid anything what is testing Jan 21 03:22:24 after 3 trials of Debian in testing flavor Jan 21 03:22:31 WizardNumberNext: good to hear skeiron works Jan 21 03:22:45 thedead1440: ^^^ :-) Jan 21 03:22:48 yes it does, but merlin1991 doesn't Jan 21 03:22:54 Kmplayer . has ful screen mode Jan 21 03:23:15 UberNeo: smplayer have it as well Jan 21 03:23:33 and I like it more, but it is up to you what you would like more Jan 21 03:24:23 also . in Kmplayer . even if u swich off the screen . the video keeps on working . but not in default player Jan 21 03:24:28 smplayer is full of features, do not know about kmplayer, if it is similar to what I get on Debian, then it is crap compared to smplayer Jan 21 03:25:04 UberNeo: it plays on both default and smplayer after switching off screen Jan 21 03:25:20 in default one it is bit of luck, but usualy it does work Jan 21 03:25:44 for me the luck doesnt works in teh default player Jan 21 03:25:59 you just leave it for few seconds after video started to play and then switch it off and usualy video is still playing with screen off Jan 21 03:27:13 No i mean . if u manully .stand by the scrren . from the hard switch on right side of N900 Jan 21 03:27:21 unfortunately if video would stop to play, then media player have to restarted and even that sometimes fails to work Jan 21 03:27:38 yes, that is what I mean Jan 21 03:28:16 I usualy do that 3-5 seconds after video started to play and video is still playing, while screen is off Jan 21 03:29:36 cool . wil try then Jan 21 03:31:09 sometimes it fails, but usualy I get what i want Jan 21 03:36:12 never fails for me. What doesn't work though is putting mediaplayer to background Jan 21 03:36:37 unlike audio playback for videos it immediately pauses Jan 21 03:41:05 DocScrutinizer05: exactly tht what i wanted to say .. Jan 21 03:42:29 well, putting video to background isn't exactly simple anyway, and also more or less nonsensical, since the second app in forground now might for example be a second videoplayer, or a browser playing flash video, or whatever Jan 21 03:43:12 while audio could even get mixed, for video that doesn't make any sense Jan 21 03:44:19 also video playback is quite resource demanding, so you better don't run other apps in parallel, to avoid negative impact on video playback Jan 21 03:44:51 DocScrutinizer05: makes sense . but sometimes . we just want to listen to the music .. in the video .. i knw . its a bit unusual . anyways . a bit nonsensical as well Jan 21 03:47:40 well, then teach mafw to playback your video media in audio player, and things you want are feasible Jan 21 03:49:06 it's possible to teach mafw gstreamer pipe to playback flac, I don't see why it can't be done to play any other semi-reasonable source of audio via mafw as well Jan 21 03:50:50 maybe it even already works, I honestly never tried ;-) Jan 21 03:51:41 if there's a plain audio playback plugin for gstreamer, it probably shall 'just work' Jan 21 03:53:19 dont knwo how it works in Kmplayer Jan 21 03:55:59 kmplayer most likely doesn't use mafw anyway Jan 21 03:57:18 yeah makes sense . Jan 21 03:58:02 anyways everybody . late night . better get some sleep . have to go to my shite office .. tmmrw morning :( Jan 21 03:59:52 see you arounf UberNeo Jan 21 04:00:36 WizardNumberNext: DocScrutinizer05 have a good night Jan 21 04:00:48 you too Jan 21 04:01:03 I would have very productive night Jan 21 04:03:44 with gstreamer you just leave video decoding out of the pipeline, player (or whatever contructs the pipeline) should probably implement some kind of option to play only audio out of videos. Would be easier to just extract the audio out of the container though. Jan 21 04:04:49 Skry, he left Jan 21 04:05:50 anyway I would prefer to use gstreamer as it garantee decoding by IVA2, where I do not know if mplayer does that Jan 21 04:06:01 obviously for supported formats Jan 21 04:06:15 yea, mplayer doesn't Jan 21 04:09:28 good to know - I was to lazy to find it out Jan 21 04:12:45 list of (officially) supported formats is a bit short though Jan 21 04:17:17 it is Jan 21 04:17:44 I was thinking I would find some firmware for IVA2, but no results Jan 21 04:19:53 you already have the firmware, if you want software for your dsp search for c64x + whatever Jan 21 04:28:59 I meant the soft running on IVA2 (which in nature is firmware, because it runs directly on hardware) Jan 21 04:35:22 err Jan 21 04:36:18 the definition of firmware (if there's any at all) is "software in a read-only storage" Jan 21 04:37:25 doc: so how do you explain firmware for 802.11 cards - most of them have some area for it, which is perfectly writable Jan 21 04:38:52 every storage is writable, otherwise it was no storage Jan 21 04:39:05 I was speaking about /lib/dsp/baseimage.dof, which usually is referred as firmware, regardless if it's right or wrong term to be used Jan 21 04:39:36 but firmware is program code that can't usually get altered by the system it is executed on Jan 21 04:42:28 so in this sense even program code transfered to RAM of a wifi or BT chip is firmware since the chip can't load it arbitrarily nor can it usually alter it during runtime Jan 21 04:49:26 DocScrutinizer05: :) Jan 21 05:21:14 Heh, fennec seems to periodically peg emmc ext3 partition at >75% busy for tens of seconds Jan 21 05:21:37 i can feel the smell of sqlite infection here :) Jan 21 05:21:54 :) Jan 21 05:26:25 ~kill Jan 21 05:44:19 Something strange, in yer neighborhood, who ya gunna call? Jan 21 05:45:46 Heh, reading a mailing list thread via gmane web interface on fennec/n900 Jan 21 05:46:03 sshd into n900 from n810, running iostat Jan 21 05:46:48 everytime scrolling jitters on N900, i glance at N810, and sure enough, it shows a big spike in emmc ext3 partition busyness Jan 21 05:47:21 ironically, the thread im reading just morphed into fs devs despairing about the evils of sqlite :-) Jan 21 05:51:32 ShadowJK: how do you run iostat constantly Jan 21 05:51:50 I cannot work it out to make it work constantly Jan 21 05:51:54 iostat -x -k -d mmcblk0p2 mmcblk1p2 10 Jan 21 05:51:59 for 10s updates Jan 21 05:52:22 0p2 is my emmc /home, 1p2 is my microsd swap Jan 21 05:52:33 remove -d to get cpu stats too Jan 21 05:53:47 I missed INTERVAL in help Jan 21 05:53:51 thanks Jan 21 05:58:22 Kerio: you gonna tell me how to use gconftool Jan 21 06:01:36 ~rtfm Jan 21 06:01:37 it has been said that rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM Jan 21 06:03:26 Read The FINE Manual ;) Jan 21 06:08:45 no offense,you said I will tell you Jan 21 06:08:52 no problem Jan 21 06:48:52 http://lwn.net/Articles/518988/ Jan 21 06:49:01 * ShadowJK wants it on n900 :( Jan 21 07:22:33 ~mirrors Jan 21 07:22:34 mirror is, like, http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 Jan 21 07:43:16 hey, could somebody check what's the actual HAM auto-update schedule in alarmd please? is it a period on an unspecified starting time, or is it every day same time of day, or what? Jan 21 07:44:14 it's called "check-interval" in gconf Jan 21 07:45:36 DocScrutinizer05: ~# gconftool -a --all-dirs /apps/hildon/update-notifier Jan 21 07:45:38 blink-after = 1440 Jan 21 07:45:39 check_interval = 1440 Jan 21 07:45:59 thedead1440: alarmclient Jan 21 07:46:43 trigger 1358800949 -> 2013-01-21 21:42:29 wd=Mon tz=CET dst=No (T-12h58m8s) Jan 21 07:47:10 i think it's set again on every check Jan 21 07:47:17 :nod: Jan 21 07:47:55 and with a period of whatever you configured (or default 24h), from the very moment it's checked during start of alarmd on boot Jan 21 07:47:56 also hi DocScrutinizer Jan 21 07:47:57 sup Jan 21 07:48:23 calculating load on repo.m.o by 40k devices Jan 21 07:48:41 will they all ask at once, at 00:00 UTC? Jan 21 07:48:45 DocScrutinizer05: how many with -devel enabled? Jan 21 07:48:56 DocScrutinizer05: nah, the clock drifts like hell Jan 21 07:49:19 and there's no mention of midnight Jan 21 07:49:21 clock drift is negligible Jan 21 07:49:38 yes, that's what I meant, it's not synced to time of day Jan 21 07:49:41 i get something like 15 seconds a day Jan 21 07:52:14 do you reckon that the majority of those 40k have extras-devel enabled? Jan 21 07:52:34 it doesn't matter as long as the Release file isn't changed Jan 21 07:52:39 but still Jan 21 07:57:23 * ShadowJK accidentally finds a webpage that makes fennec consume 800M memory Jan 21 07:57:51

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:) Jan 21 07:58:29 kerio: I'm concerned (well, Eero is) that all would try to update at same time, like if there was a cron entry Jan 21 07:59:00 cehteh: as in the html tag? Jan 21 07:59:19 ShadowJK: is it myfreecams? because myfreecams works kinda fine in microb Jan 21 07:59:30 which is fairly awesome Jan 21 07:59:55 fennec never worked well for me Jan 21 08:00:09 maybe i shall try the most recent release Jan 21 08:00:14 the non-thumby one in ovi is unusable Jan 21 08:00:21 ah ok Jan 21 08:00:24 no go then Jan 21 08:01:59 alarmclient -L|grep -C8 ham_updates Jan 21 08:05:37 kerio; no Jan 21 08:06:10 it's still a nice showcase of how the n900 is still lightyears ahead of any other smartphone Jan 21 08:06:23 and it's also a nice showcase of... other things Jan 21 08:06:29 or so i've been told Jan 21 08:08:21 I was browsing for more cards to test and found a local distributor of Integral cards (and others), http://www.muistikauppa.fi Jan 21 08:08:45 ShadowJK: Isn't 800MB a normal footprint for Fennec? Jan 21 08:08:46 =) Jan 21 08:08:56 went a few categories deep from left and fennec was pretty soon up to 800M swap in use Jan 21 08:11:58 hehe, wouldn't happen here ;-P Jan 21 08:12:19 even if I would use fenec Jan 21 08:18:41 Doc: Haven't got 800MB RAM? Jan 21 08:19:22 My desktop machine has 8g ram and 7g swap in use Jan 21 08:19:30 * ShadowJK should restart firefox :-/ Jan 21 08:20:37 why use fennec on a desktop? Jan 21 08:20:42 anything special about it? Jan 21 08:21:51 I'm not. Jan 21 08:22:39 RST38h: haven't got 800Mb of swap Jan 21 08:22:46 But the first desktop executable version of fennec did have a novel feature, pressing back button was instant load from cache instead of refresh from network :) Jan 21 08:25:23 ShadowJK: firefox does that since ages, it even caches the most recent pages in rendered form Jan 21 08:27:07 can somebody translate >>flags STATE(QUEUED) RUN_DELAYED|CONNECTED|BACK_RESCHEDULE<< for me please. (alarmclient -L|grep -C8 ham_updates) Jan 21 08:28:47 cehteh: what became of that concept to download *ahead* - i.e. download links on page just viewed, in case user might click on them Jan 21 08:29:59 probably somebody found it's brainfart and causes congestion of downlink for the one page you *actually* want to see enxt Jan 21 08:30:07 the more I read about this qml hing, the more i dislike it. WTF, one should mimic hildon-status-menu?!? Jan 21 08:30:11 *thing Jan 21 08:30:33 meh, qml Jan 21 08:31:04 romaxa: from memory, what component should be rewritten, so microb-engine to be replaced? is it gtkmozembed or something else? Jan 21 08:31:24 romaxa: int terms of embedlite that is. Jan 21 08:33:02 romaxa: also, did you try to open some flash in qml UI? Jan 21 08:34:06 freemangordon: since the last thumb update I've this behaviour occurring quite frequently: When a notification like a SMS arrives, I click on the X button in the task-switcher to clear it but it won't clear till i repeatedly click it and a message saying hildon-home is not responding; to close or not. Once I click NO the notification usually has cleared. Any idea on what logs to submit to debug this? Thanks! Jan 21 08:35:05 N.B. It used to occur previously but quite rarely like once in 15-20notifications but now its like once in 2 notifications Jan 21 08:35:23 DocScrutinizer05: there are some extensions who do that, but it caused a lot trouble and didnt worked well Jan 21 08:35:37 thedead1440: hmm, strange, never seen that here Jan 21 08:36:09 thedead1440: could you install h-d from cssu-devel and see if it still occurs? Jan 21 08:36:19 ok will do so Jan 21 08:36:29 thedead1440: you need Qt too Jan 21 08:36:46 otherwise rotation in Qt apps will be broken Jan 21 08:37:16 qt-mobility and qt4-x11? Jan 21 08:37:28 thedead1440: just lemme confirm with arcean if latest h-d is in -devel Jan 21 08:37:39 there is one in there from 18/01 Jan 21 08:37:49 thedead1440: qt-mobility in cssu-devel? Jan 21 08:37:54 ya Jan 21 08:37:55 errm, I've seen exactly the same yesterday when trying to close a missed call notifier in taskswitcher. No thumb Jan 21 08:38:02 but cssu-t Jan 21 08:38:49 DocScrutinizer05: for sure it is not because -thumb, I upgraded h-d in recent cssu-thumb with the ne from -testing Jan 21 08:39:05 th*one Jan 21 08:39:11 the fuck :( Jan 21 08:39:18 gnhnhnhn Jan 21 08:39:31 ohh, arcean is offline Jan 21 08:39:41 freemangordon: accept your typos ;-) Jan 21 08:39:58 :) Jan 21 08:40:19 i am using remote desktop to my home PC, sometimes keystrokes are not registered Jan 21 08:40:38 that's why those "eaten" letters Jan 21 08:40:42 anyway, general dbus msgs loss alike problems been always common on fremantle like on all dbus systems Jan 21 08:40:52 I stilll suspect dbus itself is buggy Jan 21 08:41:05 DocScrutinizer05: could it be ppoll/pselect? Jan 21 08:41:12 possibly Jan 21 08:41:22 but not on my desktop KDE, eh? Jan 21 08:41:43 we should continue wiki edits for kernel in CSSU in that regard Jan 21 08:41:52 :nod: Jan 21 08:42:04 DocScrutinizer05: for sure not on your desktop :D Jan 21 08:42:11 you generally should resume using wiki Jan 21 08:42:20 it *works* again :-D \o/ Jan 21 08:42:25 I know Jan 21 08:42:37 ohh, Pali is offline too :( Jan 21 08:42:46 on that topic: http://wiki.maemo.org/Migrating_to_Community-driven_Infrastructure Jan 21 08:55:42 one user and 6 guests on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1314588 - *incl me(!!)*. I wonder whom for I do those daily updates there Jan 21 08:56:32 me! Jan 21 08:56:57 DocScrutinizer05: you should give the thread a silent bump by posting your latest update as a post too && your updates do help ;) Jan 21 09:01:15 well, you could post as well ;-D Jan 21 09:01:32 I'm not OP and its your work :p Jan 21 09:01:41 I hate posts of mine that don't gather at least 8 thanks Jan 21 09:01:48 haha Jan 21 09:02:29 DocScrutinizer05: you post to gather thanks? I tought you do it to be useful :P Jan 21 09:02:35 hi i was wondering what is up with the reposatorys are they down ? because i havend been able to reach them on my n900 Jan 21 09:02:48 YAY!! Jan 21 09:02:50 ~mirrors Jan 21 09:02:51 it has been said that mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 Jan 21 09:02:57 ~repo-down Jan 21 09:02:58 i heard repo-down is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-20.log.html#t2013-01-20T02:08:42 Jan 21 09:03:09 /topic Jan 21 09:03:37 kerio: see, i've learned to write "mirror" correctly :D:D:D Jan 21 09:03:39 haha its like "attack of the zombies" whenever someone asks about repos down :D Jan 21 09:04:23 http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ <- alternative repo's ? Jan 21 09:04:46 nakugaka: more of a backup Jan 21 09:04:54 nakugaka: see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88707 its self-explanatory Jan 21 09:05:18 thx i recently finally got a n900 and i was kinda bummed out the repo's were down Jan 21 09:05:27 fuck the whole site was acing like it was on acid :P Jan 21 09:05:44 but thx ^^ Jan 21 09:05:53 you've choosen a bad moment :) Jan 21 09:06:00 also has somebody ever atempted to port maemo5 to the rasberry-pi? Jan 21 09:08:58 qwazix: you got mail!! \o/ board and council actually (Nemein quote fro hosting and maintenance) Jan 21 09:20:11 is it known that the repo mirror for extra's from merlin 1991 has an hash error Jan 21 09:20:27 nakugaka: did you read the thread i linked to? Jan 21 09:21:24 doing 20 tings at the same time its easy to overlook something :P Jan 21 09:22:49 seriusly the work you need to do just to get an ssh client -_- Jan 21 09:35:32 thedead1440, thanks for updating the migration wiki page Jan 21 09:35:48 wirr: np ;) Jan 21 09:38:41 * wirr holds up a big sign saying: Update, update, update: http://wiki.maemo.org/Migrating_to_Community-driven_Infrastructure Jan 21 09:45:35 is it known that the openssh-client has problems with the n900 keyboard because i have some serius problems logging into some of my servers with it Jan 21 09:46:38 no Jan 21 09:46:47 it's your fingers Jan 21 09:47:20 nope ive checkd it and it aint my fingers Jan 21 09:47:52 besides, use keys Jan 21 09:48:48 naa i prefer to restrict it to single ip's anyway and its not open to the wwwz so hightend securoty is not needed Jan 21 11:25:01 nakugaka, try type your password into vi or nano first, to see if you're typing what you think you're typing Jan 21 11:48:16 or into xchat ;-P Jan 21 11:51:21 ~ding Jan 21 11:51:21 dong Jan 21 12:14:52 if it wasn't IRC I'd get nervous for the silence Jan 21 12:35:43 ~ding Jan 21 12:35:44 dong Jan 21 12:35:51 no more silence Jan 21 12:46:59 ~ding Jan 21 12:47:00 dong Jan 21 12:51:07 ~dong Jan 21 12:51:08 ding Jan 21 12:51:11 :) Jan 21 12:55:33 bim-bam-bom Jan 21 12:56:22 wub wub wub Jan 21 12:57:43 DocScrutinizer: do you know if HiFo has permissions to rehost the contents of downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle? Jan 21 12:58:08 kerio: you do dubstep? :) Jan 21 12:58:20 nah Jan 21 12:58:42 sadly, I know that wub wub only after playing Borderlands 2 Jan 21 12:59:38 80% more wub wub than the previous game Jan 21 13:00:03 there wasn't actually any in the first game though Jan 21 13:00:43 so there's no wub wub in borderlands 2 either Jan 21 13:01:06 there is, only one scene Jan 21 13:01:15 so it's ∞% more wub wub than the previous game Jan 21 13:01:21 so any amount of wub wub will fill that quota Jan 21 13:08:12 Hi , did they release accuweather for N900 or it has been left ? I can't find it in ovi . Jan 21 13:11:43 nakugaka: which part of my mirror has the hash error? Jan 21 13:11:53 pff Jan 21 13:11:59 i dont remember again Jan 21 13:12:01 because I checked extras-devel and cssu-testing and both were fine Jan 21 13:12:14 hm I'll have to check the other 2 then too :D Jan 21 13:12:19 i got the error withn the default app manager on the nokia n900 Jan 21 13:12:38 srry my short term memmory sucks ass so i dont remember anymore Jan 21 13:12:50 np Jan 21 13:13:23 but it was community community-extra or community-testing Jan 21 13:14:05 because those are the ones i added at that time Jan 21 13:14:33 merlin1991: community, extras and extras-devel all have hash sum mismatch on yours: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1315956&postcount=9 Jan 21 13:15:10 damn Jan 21 13:15:11 ?? Jan 21 13:15:16 they worked with apt-get Jan 21 13:15:24 lol not everybody uses apt-get Jan 21 13:15:38 yeah but it's the fastes way to check ususally Jan 21 13:15:43 I didn't bother to fire up ham Jan 21 13:15:46 true Jan 21 13:15:54 merlin1991: it didn't work on apt-get too IIRC Jan 21 13:16:14 huh, it worked for me Jan 21 13:16:32 but hey do you guys know if maemo5 has been ported to other devices sucsessfully ? Jan 21 13:16:43 because i couldent find any info on it Jan 21 13:16:44 nope Jan 21 13:16:57 well there is corida which got the hildon-desktop running on mer Jan 21 13:17:00 ah so it wont be a waste of time for me to try to pert it to the rasberry po :P Jan 21 13:17:03 pi Jan 21 13:17:04 so basically any device that runs mer Jan 21 13:17:26 nice thx Jan 21 13:17:27 nakugaka: well depends on what you wan to run on the pi from maemo5 Jan 21 13:17:42 the whole distro if possible Jan 21 13:17:42 there's a ton of closed stuff in fremantle Jan 21 13:17:56 lol i have a lot of time and i am good at reverse engineering Jan 21 13:18:17 sure some parts wont be legal but those i just keep for my self and the rest that is open i publish Jan 21 13:18:27 ~closed Jan 21 13:18:27 [closed] http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages or https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages Jan 21 13:18:35 you don't have enough time Jan 21 13:18:54 but just the interface will be nice to have on a device like the pii with a small touch schreen Jan 21 13:19:08 but if you feel like reversing interesting bits, the cssu always has space for stuff that need fixing ;) Jan 21 13:19:41 if i remmember i will look into it once i got the sdk running on a dedicated machine Jan 21 13:20:02 uhm has the wiki problems because its slo as a snail Jan 21 13:22:48 thedead1440: I just checked, all 4 work with apt-get Jan 21 13:22:50 hm, wiki is down again maybe? Jan 21 13:22:51 time to fire up ham Jan 21 13:23:01 merlin1991: checked with ham, your community-testing mirror works Jan 21 13:23:04 but kerio if you meant with that that some things shouldent be open i disagree with that i strongly believe that every thing should be open and that companys just should tell people before using the devices that if they fuckup because of a lack of knowledge its their own fault Jan 21 13:23:17 naa the wiki works but takes a very very long time to load Jan 21 13:23:30 nakugaka: no, i mean that there's a fuckload of things that you'll have to reverse engineer Jan 21 13:23:41 lol i have more than enough Jan 21 13:23:42 time Jan 21 13:23:46 since i dont have a job Jan 21 13:24:20 merlin1991: strange i'll try it again... the last i tried was when i set-up the thread Jan 21 13:25:17 by the way are there packaged backups of the repositorys so i can set up private repositorys at home because locally doing that is a lot faster :P Jan 21 13:25:37 nakugaka: just reprepro Jan 21 13:25:47 ?? Jan 21 13:26:19 or apt-mirror, but afaik reprepro is better Jan 21 13:26:23 srry if i dont understand that but ive never tried it before but i wanted to try it so i thougth i do it for the n900 but i dont understand that lingo yet Jan 21 13:26:37 wait do you mean download it to the phone Jan 21 13:26:48 no, you won't have enough space Jan 21 13:27:25 nvm i already found what ya meant Jan 21 13:27:41 and now i have another thing to use my rasberry pi for :) Jan 21 13:28:15 seriously though, fremantle is about as unportable as it gets Jan 21 13:28:30 especially because, given the choice, you'd just make a similar, but better, system Jan 21 13:29:01 nakugaka: i'd be very interested to run hildon-desktop on armhf... so please share your findings on talk.maemo.org Jan 21 13:29:06 well it whould bring the os completely in the hands of the community witch in my opinion whould be a lot better Jan 21 13:29:28 nakugaka: I have hildon-desktop running on top of Arch Linux Jan 21 13:31:21 Skry: the cordia one? Jan 21 13:31:42 still looking at the list and figuring out what the main packages of the hildon gui is and then i whould need to look at them what are closed and what not so i dont know how to replay at that skry Jan 21 13:32:18 kerio: the git one Jan 21 13:32:30 Skry: oh, not on a computer though Jan 21 13:32:49 afaik hildon-desktop has problems with resolutions other than 800x480 or 480x800 Jan 21 13:33:56 kerio: there is a patch in cordia for that Jan 21 13:34:11 i know, but is it in the mainline h-d? Jan 21 13:34:15 yup, looks fine at 1080p :) Jan 21 13:34:59 kerio: nope we never ported the patch to the cssu h-d because well, there is no need :D Jan 21 13:35:47 btw Skry are you running the cordia h-d or the cssu h-d ? Jan 21 13:36:58 cssu hd with some patches from cordia Jan 21 13:41:35 but il leave the convo since my gf is here well contineu this later on ok cya ^^ Jan 21 13:41:45 Skry: anything that can be applied to cssu hd without breaking compatability with the n900 would be nice to have Jan 21 13:41:54 so that other have an easier starting point in the future Jan 21 13:42:05 *hint* merge-request *hint* Jan 21 13:43:15 we'll see Jan 21 13:44:01 but yeah, ofc you get everything usable too Jan 21 13:45:04 btw Skry did you run only hildon-desktop or the whole hildon libraries aswell? Jan 21 13:45:41 s/did/do/ Jan 21 13:45:41 merlin1991 meant: btw Skry do you run only hildon-desktop or the whole hildon libraries aswell? Jan 21 13:46:54 clutter08, libmatchbox2, libhildon, libhildondesktop and the few other libs Jan 21 13:50:54 not tried hildon-home etc yet, I'll try to work out h-d first and put everything on github Jan 21 13:51:38 I was planning to make it usable on "normal" distros Jan 21 13:52:08 currently just busy with kernel and alarm stuff so, all in it's time Jan 21 13:52:50