**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 24 02:59:58 2013 Apr 24 04:32:31 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1338394&postcount=41 Apr 24 05:04:26 Stupid get vote token "The e-mail address and username you gave do not match an existing voter, or you have already voted." Apr 24 05:35:30 hmm? Apr 24 05:35:43 you got a mail with a mail-addr and a token Apr 24 05:36:02 please c&p both to the according fields in voting page Apr 24 05:39:57 no, I tried to get a token Apr 24 05:41:07 registered yesterday on maemo.org, but login fails on maemo.org, but works fine on gmo Apr 24 05:42:51 I guess you can't vote unless you're older than 3 months Apr 24 05:43:08 I mean your account is older than 3 months Apr 24 05:43:24 ;) ahh, I see Apr 24 05:43:59 you're free to send a mail to council, as suggested before Apr 24 05:44:54 ok, thx Apr 24 05:45:36 but it is correct that an account on gmo should also work for login on mo? Apr 24 05:45:53 err, not exactly Apr 24 05:45:56 no I guess it's not Apr 24 05:46:12 for some strange reason they may differ Apr 24 05:46:24 I even have different users for garage and for tmo Apr 24 05:46:39 I mean usernames Apr 24 05:46:42 but I registered on mo, but account onyl works on gmo Apr 24 05:46:45 though somehow the accounts are linked Apr 24 05:46:49 I strongly suggest to use same username and passowrd on all accounts/logins, or you go insane Apr 24 05:48:33 tmo is completely differend story Apr 24 05:49:13 there's at least one account on bmo, on gmo and on tmo Apr 24 05:49:25 possibly mo is yet another one Apr 24 05:49:56 bmo account is via mail-addr Apr 24 05:50:15 tmo is completely unrelated Apr 24 05:50:23 btw Apr 24 05:50:32 though you can link your tmo account into gmo Apr 24 05:50:37 somebody earlier said that since the migration all maemo.org is laggy but I do not agree Apr 24 05:50:56 actually I get faster speeds from the repositores than before and the builder is way faster Apr 24 05:50:59 I just dont understand how to register on mo then? The Register-button on mo is for gmo. Apr 24 05:51:00 BUT tmo is slower Apr 24 05:51:04 but tmo != maemo.org Apr 24 05:51:12 it's just a little part of it Apr 24 05:51:41 well, then the both should be identical Apr 24 05:52:15 possibly needs syncing back from gmo db to www Apr 24 05:52:37 which is a job that eats 6GB of ram for 30min Apr 24 05:52:51 thus we don't currently run it via cron Apr 24 05:53:03 I just checked and my maemo.org account is the same than the garage.maemo.org account Apr 24 05:53:15 yep Apr 24 05:53:21 I see the issue now Apr 24 05:53:31 sync job is neutered Apr 24 05:53:33 but totally different to the tmo account of course. Apr 24 05:54:12 so the sync job is not in cron anymore? Apr 24 05:54:20 n900-dk: please stay patient, I'll try to prod my tech guys into finally doing sth with that snc job Apr 24 05:54:29 Sc0rpius: exactly Apr 24 05:54:43 DocScrutinizer05: Excellent :) Apr 24 05:55:18 if nothing happened to fix stuff during next 24h, please pester me again, i'll run the job manually then Apr 24 05:55:38 I will Apr 24 05:55:42 thanks Apr 24 06:08:36 WTF uplink 84Mb/s Apr 24 06:10:29 somebody really hammering hard maemo.org Apr 24 06:12:31 mhm, back to 56 Apr 24 06:59:07 Can anyone advice me some app as advanced call manager/history, to view detailed log of every incoming/outgoing call made ? Apr 24 06:59:59 How many incoming/missed calls was maid , what time rach call was registered... Apr 24 07:00:11 XATRIX: I like Extented Call Log Apr 24 07:01:08 Let's see Apr 24 07:09:53 XATRIX: you'll need the patches to eventdb, see Apr 24 07:09:57 ~jrtools Apr 24 07:09:59 [jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Apr 24 07:10:41 >> ## find original at http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/eventsdb_calllog_triggers.sh << Apr 24 07:11:29 # execute or source this to fix the missing end-times in eventslogger db Apr 24 07:11:30 # thanks hcm @ http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=690253&postcount=20 Apr 24 07:28:37 DocScrutinizer05: are these patches for Ext Call Log? Apr 24 07:30:33 yep Apr 24 07:31:11 get http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/eventsdb_calllog_triggers.sh and execute in in a rootshell on N900 Apr 24 07:31:39 after that you could as well delete it, as you probably won't need is again soon Apr 24 07:43:48 Ok, thanks for a notice! Apr 24 07:44:55 ok, executed and removed Apr 24 11:34:56 ~botsnack Apr 24 11:34:58 :), DocScrutinizer05 Apr 24 12:08:37 does anyone know why karma voting doesn't work in the maemo garage? Apr 24 12:24:52 hm Apr 24 12:25:04 is there no m3u8 stream support for maemo? Apr 24 12:26:14 @macer, yes it's supported Apr 24 12:29:16 hm Apr 24 12:29:20 doesnt seem to be Apr 24 12:29:33 can the browser not pass it off to video player? Apr 24 12:31:06 perhaps if you add it as an internetstation to the mediaplayer but I am not sure about that. Apr 24 12:31:15 hm Apr 24 12:32:57 let me look it up Apr 24 12:37:34 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40822 Apr 24 12:37:36 lol Apr 24 12:37:39 wth? Apr 24 12:39:42 I thought the number 8 in m3u8 was a typo and that you were talking about m3u. my bad... Apr 24 12:41:34 it does appear that hls-player supports m3u8 though... Apr 24 12:44:43 also, have a look here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=683112 Apr 24 12:56:16 heh Apr 24 12:56:27 no i mean the streaming format Apr 24 12:57:51 hls-player? Apr 24 12:58:41 yes, it's on git Apr 24 12:58:50 oh Apr 24 12:59:15 i skimmed through that post and saw some script etc Apr 24 12:59:33 i just want to stream videos :-/ Apr 24 12:59:50 ad-droid does this fine out the box Apr 24 13:03:04 maemo is not droid... Apr 24 13:04:07 * kerio uses livestreamer, even on his computer, for most of the streaming sites Apr 24 13:04:14 actually no, only for twitch.tv Apr 24 13:04:18 but it supports more than that Apr 24 13:04:32 it's a python program that uses rtmpdump and your video player of choice Apr 24 14:06:17 hi all Apr 24 14:08:46 I am new... Apr 24 14:09:01 hi Apr 24 14:09:06 I would some information... Apr 24 14:09:14 is nokia n900 still developed Apr 24 14:09:20 updating... Apr 24 14:09:28 and it's still good ? Apr 24 14:09:35 or in retirement Apr 24 14:10:29 I mean nowdays there is meego... lime or tizen Apr 24 14:10:52 I mean I am so confused... not I bought on ebay a nokia n900 I would know if I have a wrong thing Apr 24 14:11:36 did I mistake ? Apr 24 14:18:11 i still use a n900 Apr 24 14:24:05 so it's cool I was afraid that n900 and maemo was not still in development Apr 24 14:24:13 that was old and dead Apr 24 14:25:00 well now its cost is lower... I buyed one n900 and soon I will be able to use it... I am googling and I see a lot of cool stuff Apr 24 14:27:21 anyway can n900 have other OS and upgrades in future right? Apr 24 14:27:45 only thing I find that's a bad... maybe there is no 4g extension... Apr 24 14:33:44 Nokia doesn't do anything for n900 anymore, but users are making little improvements. Apr 24 14:35:26 Raimu: little? :P Apr 24 14:35:57 Okay, massive huge improvements. :D Apr 24 14:36:23 But not like you can turn your n900 into a fighter jet Transformers style... yet Apr 24 14:58:30 lol Apr 24 14:59:13 Raimu: aah, that kind of improvements. yeah, correct :) Apr 24 15:00:10 Raimu: BTW did you try to revert that initrd-thingie to stock version to see if it fixes BM? Apr 24 15:00:17 or you can;t boot to try it Apr 24 15:00:48 I can't, because I didn't have a timely backup and there's no .deb to install over it. Apr 24 15:01:08 Raimu: what .deb do you need? Apr 24 15:02:12 but does maemo still have a lot of years of life? Apr 24 15:02:37 zammy: accordin to some guys it is a zombie for the last 3 years :D Apr 24 15:02:52 yes Apr 24 15:03:03 that's the same result as you search on google about it Apr 24 15:03:29 so it is already dead in that regard. though yoiu may check the threads on TMO about what is the real status Apr 24 15:06:10 freemangordon: The stock initrd-thingie. :) Apr 24 15:06:25 and so what? freemangordon did I mistake buying a n900? Apr 24 15:06:39 Nah, depends on what you want to do with the device. :) Apr 24 15:06:42 zammy: depends. if you are happy with it, then not Apr 24 15:06:48 * n900-dk would love a 4g extension , but odds are zero :) Apr 24 15:06:53 lol that's all? Apr 24 15:06:55 I am happy Apr 24 15:06:58 yes fucking happyu Apr 24 15:07:04 yep, that's it Apr 24 15:07:24 maybe a portable router for 4g? Apr 24 15:07:30 would that work? Apr 24 15:07:35 nah Apr 24 15:07:38 Raimu: can't you just get it from skeiron? Apr 24 15:07:50 ~morrors Apr 24 15:07:53 shit Apr 24 15:07:57 ~mirrors Apr 24 15:07:58 hmm... mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/, or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new Apr 24 15:08:05 then we shall wait that n900 evolves it self Apr 24 15:08:12 like transformer Apr 24 15:09:07 Raimu: nogooglehttp://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/initrd-progs_0.81-7%2b0m5_armel.deb Apr 24 15:09:39 Oh, I just didn't find a place to get it from. Will try right away! Apr 24 15:10:08 Raimu: not sure this is the correct (read last stock) version, but I guess so Apr 24 15:10:25 zammy: As long as you didn't buy the n900 for gaming and all the new apps, you see on android and iOS. Apr 24 15:10:46 n900-dk: "all the new apps"? Apr 24 15:11:09 there are newer fart apps? cool :P Apr 24 15:11:15 :)))) Apr 24 15:11:22 How about that maemo sex app someone suggested on tmo Apr 24 15:11:29 Oh right, nobody programmed that :D Apr 24 15:11:40 Raimu: honestly, I was thinking this is a real app Apr 24 15:11:50 is it not? Apr 24 15:11:59 well, you know - all the apps in google play and app store Apr 24 15:12:01 freemangordon: Reverting to stock initrd-stuff corrected everything. Confirmed. Apr 24 15:12:20 ok, boo on Pali then :D Apr 24 15:12:23 Well, that's an easy cure for something people once again blamed cssu-thumb for. Apr 24 15:12:38 Raimu: you know, never fear :P Apr 24 15:12:43 Yeah... Apr 24 15:13:44 Raimu: though... next time... DO NOT MAKE A SYSTEM UPGRADE WITH CSSU-devel ENABLED :) Apr 24 15:13:58 kerio: ^^^ Apr 24 15:14:01 why not Apr 24 15:14:02 it's fun Apr 24 15:14:04 Yep! But at least I had a general ballpark idea as to what went wrong. Apr 24 15:14:09 especial commercial stuff, bank, goverment apps and so on will only be developed to android and ios Apr 24 15:14:15 Raimu: yep, thanks Apr 24 15:14:29 it's not like i use backupmenu anymore, anyway Apr 24 15:14:48 kerio: why not, wasn't it a "must have"? Apr 24 15:15:05 sure, but nowadays i know how to fix shit Apr 24 15:15:11 oh Apr 24 15:15:16 and besides, it won't work correctly, i have an ext4 /home Apr 24 15:15:23 I see Apr 24 15:15:30 i should probably make some backup scripts for rescueOS though, i do that manually Apr 24 15:15:40 perhaps i'll call it... *backupOS* Apr 24 15:15:49 los backupos Apr 24 15:15:54 kerio: rescueOS can be booted from uSD, correct? Apr 24 15:16:03 yeah Apr 24 15:16:18 but the initrd way is much cleaner Apr 24 15:16:23 it's just a file in /opt/boot Apr 24 15:16:23 ok, that's good to know. time to install u-boot I guess Apr 24 15:16:53 you'll have to run it manually, if you want to run it from the uSD Apr 24 15:17:07 not sure how, i can't quite grok the uboot console Apr 24 15:17:14 like "run mmcboot"? Apr 24 15:17:39 those are pre-made configurations, but idk what they need Apr 24 15:17:40 oh, wait, I don;t need u-boot, if I screw it somehow, I can just flash it Apr 24 15:17:44 that, too Apr 24 15:17:50 except s/flash/load/ Apr 24 15:18:04 yeah, that one too Apr 24 15:20:40 freemangordon: i have reflashed one N900 and i can't remember if there was a way to set the /sys/power/sr_vdd1_dsp_boost at boot Apr 24 15:21:08 xes: /etc/pmconfig? Apr 24 15:21:12 oh, wait Apr 24 15:21:23 create a script in /etc/event.d Apr 24 15:21:40 xes: ^^^ Apr 24 15:22:40 freemangordon: ok, thanks! ..but "kernel-config load" could reset it? Apr 24 15:23:02 xes: it knows nothing about it. IIRC Apr 24 15:23:21 I guess you should play a bti Apr 24 15:23:26 bit even Apr 24 15:24:46 let's play.. ;) The problem was the usual dsp overclock and their voltages requirements not aligned with core voltage Apr 24 15:25:03 yep Apr 24 15:25:06 btw, thanks! Apr 24 15:25:29 n900-dk, what's the problem if n900 can support multiboot Apr 24 15:25:35 and have also android Apr 24 15:25:45 also all fart apps with google play Apr 24 15:25:47 ~maemo-multiboot Apr 24 15:25:49 well, maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED Apr 24 15:26:02 multiboot is a horrible concept with a horrible implementation Apr 24 15:26:56 well seriously... I don't care... I am not the common customer who wants a fashionist mobile phone Apr 24 15:27:07 I prefer the horrible multiboot Apr 24 15:27:29 then you are wrong Apr 24 15:27:32 objectively, and provably wrong Apr 24 15:27:40 but I think... as you can add a lot of repository... you won't need to have google play Apr 24 15:27:54 if you want to load multiple OSes, use a /bootloader/ Apr 24 15:27:55 zammy: avoid multi-boot/Nitdroid, if you want Android get a droid device. Apr 24 15:28:03 zammy: well, it's not a problem. I never tried nitdroid, but guess you would miss a lot of features Apr 24 15:28:10 and dualboot only? Apr 24 15:29:59 boot only Maemo this is what the N900 was designed for :) Apr 24 15:30:09 yes... I know Apr 24 15:30:13 so I think too Apr 24 15:30:21 multiple OSes work, just don't use multiboot Apr 24 15:30:31 I have read a lot of google stuff regarding n900 Apr 24 15:30:55 but if tizen works...? Apr 24 15:30:56 how do you think - is it safe to have old N800 charging with an usb cable 24/7? as a photo frame etc. Apr 24 15:31:09 tizen is the new open source mobile phone OS Apr 24 15:31:46 zammy: wiki.maemo.org is your friend Apr 24 15:31:52 LOL Apr 24 15:31:55 i thought the n800 didn't charge via usb Apr 24 15:32:15 totalizator: I do that with a n810 since ~3 years Apr 24 15:32:19 I will try some new update to tizen as soon as It will be possible Apr 24 15:32:51 once I got tired from maemo and/or maemo is dead I will try tizen on n900 Apr 24 15:32:52 also what kerio said Apr 24 15:33:23 (I'm using the barrel plug charger) Apr 24 15:34:03 DocScrutinizer05: omg, ty! exactly what I wanted to hear Apr 24 15:34:53 zammy: IF it will be possible ;) My guess is it never will Apr 24 15:35:42 explain why please Apr 24 15:35:50 I am waiting for it... I guess all Apr 24 15:37:16 well, just my gut feeling :) Apr 24 15:38:02 look... I am pretty sure as long as you would be generally able to install ubuntu 12.04 on it... you can install ever tizen... Apr 24 15:38:17 *even Apr 24 15:39:20 sur, but will it work? Apr 24 15:39:28 s/sur/sure/ Apr 24 15:39:31 n900-dk meant: sure, but will it work? Apr 24 15:45:21 zammy, how do you expect to link all the closed blobs together? It maybe made to sort of work, but what's the point. Apr 24 15:47:10 sixwheeledbeast, I don't expect anything... I am waiting for my n900 to come between my hands... then I can continue to dream after played for a while with it Apr 24 15:48:25 how much did you pay for it? Apr 24 15:50:33 dream being the operative word... Apr 24 15:53:52 I payed 140€ Apr 24 15:53:55 but used Apr 24 15:54:02 sounds about right Apr 24 15:54:55 I am glad you think that Apr 24 15:57:32 does sound ok, have you checked all the hardware? Apr 24 15:58:09 yes all included Apr 24 15:58:34 it's not cool like a hackerbox but it's a standard and original n900 and with all accessories inside Apr 24 15:59:03 and I took time to make him shoot more photos to look at... before to accept the deal Apr 24 15:59:17 sorry I mean the devices "features" i.e modem, ir, wifi, slider ok, not a copy etc etc Apr 24 15:59:33 it's not fake Apr 24 15:59:42 it's as new Apr 24 16:00:08 I spent enough words... Apr 24 16:01:29 zammy: What phone will your upcoming n900 replace? Apr 24 16:01:37 idk Apr 24 16:01:56 I don't think it already exists Apr 24 16:02:09 good, there are a good few fake copies in circulation and probably and equal amount of genuine one's with issues. Apr 24 16:02:28 we will see Apr 24 16:02:39 I meant, what phone do you hav today :) Apr 24 16:02:47 oh... Apr 24 16:02:55 I have a nokia 5800 xpress music Apr 24 16:03:36 it makes a lot of stuff... really satisfiable... Apr 24 16:04:05 customizable... Apr 24 16:04:47 I am interested to customizable features about phones... that's my purpose on buying this n900 Apr 24 16:05:08 you will like Maemo then coming from a 5800 Apr 24 16:05:08 aha Apr 24 16:05:37 my brother lost his own phone and so I will gift my xpress music to my bro while I will have a cool n900 Apr 24 16:05:56 I am pretty about that... Apr 24 16:06:03 *sure Apr 24 16:07:17 I think all ppl who buys a nokia wants the customizable stuff... instead now... since nokia has this fucking lumia with windows mobile inside... as OS WHAT THE FUCK Apr 24 16:09:03 I am praying day and night that God will make nokia more open source and ever less windows immobilized Apr 24 16:10:27 not in the short term at least Apr 24 16:10:53 ? Apr 24 16:11:02 your not the only one there ... but yet again another dream Apr 24 16:11:13 lol Apr 24 16:11:23 Nokia has tied their fortunes firmly to windows Apr 24 16:11:33 omg Apr 24 16:11:34 however insane that may be Apr 24 16:11:38 OMFG Apr 24 16:12:18 #jollamobile is comprised of some of the open source people at Nokia Apr 24 16:12:40 who are announcing hardware soon Apr 24 16:14:04 soon[tm] Apr 24 16:14:38 then no hope to get a new open source OS made for nokia... right? Apr 24 16:14:46 samsung has its tizen Apr 24 16:15:40 I will betray nokia for samsung in future after nokia n900 then Apr 24 16:15:57 let's hope as later as possible Apr 24 16:15:58 I would be surprised to see any new open source release from Nokia before someone buys it Apr 24 16:16:38 the fundamental problem is that the duopoly is now even further entrenched. Apr 24 16:17:23 when the n900 came out. or when the n9 did, there were several more OSs around, not just (mostly) two Apr 24 16:18:32 yes then smart tv too and then born the google glass so then all to focus on the fucking google/samsung company Apr 24 16:20:13 is the opensource well payed? Apr 24 16:20:31 somehow I think it's all a 1984 Apr 24 16:28:04 open source payment is a fun issue Apr 24 16:52:12 DocScrutinizer05: Yah, my gmo login now works on mo, so syncjob seems to work now, thanks to you and your tech guys! Still not able to get vote token, but guess it's because of 0 karma. I will just follow the elections from the sideline :) Apr 24 16:58:07 n900-dk: this election is open to all (for voting) Apr 24 16:58:09 Woodya: ^ Apr 24 16:59:36 ok, then I will have to find someone to pester with non-working get-token.php Apr 24 17:00:32 I will try with an email to MC maillist Apr 24 17:00:58 Hi, I remember having read on tmo that somehow it is possible to start/stop charging from the command line, just can't find it anymore. Does anyone remember any details? Apr 24 17:01:41 I'm running kp52 and latest cssu-thumb, btw Apr 24 17:02:17 ugh Apr 24 17:02:26 this fmobi dev just pretty much "stole" my $2 Apr 24 17:02:35 with this non-functional non-maintained garbage Apr 24 17:02:40 * Macer will pirate from now on Apr 24 17:02:41 lol Apr 24 17:08:14 n900-dk: send a mail to council@m.o Apr 24 17:08:36 who do you send mail to in order to have an app removed from the ovi store? Apr 24 17:08:46 n900-dk: see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1338413#post1338413 Apr 24 17:08:55 and #1 in there Apr 24 17:10:24 err, this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1334488&postcount=1 Apr 24 17:11:25 >>Eligibility criteria will likely remain the same as they have been, in as much as feasible. There is, however, a modifying circumstance: *.maemo.org account registration and login has been broken for months, until recently; furthermore, karma is /still/ broken, with a significant number of members missing a significant amouht of karma.<< Apr 24 17:12:35 >>we think it is infeasible to manually count the karma for every user who might be eligible to vote. So unless there is a serious volunteer effort to calculate everyone's karma by hand, we will treat all maemo.org accounts older than 3 months as eligible for this election only<< Apr 24 17:13:25 >>If people with newer accounts think they ought to be eligible to vote (for example, you would have registered earlier but it was impossible to do so at the time because the system was broken), please contact the Council by either responding to this message or, preferably, by emailing council@maemo.org<< Apr 24 17:15:52 hoph0p: it's not that easy Apr 24 17:16:33 kerio: It doesn't have to be easy :) Apr 24 17:17:04 Macer: don't use ovi store especially for non-free apps Apr 24 17:17:13 either you start using bleeding edge stuff (aka, Pali's bme replacement) Apr 24 17:17:15 I think you need to specify your purpose for that Apr 24 17:17:25 sixwheeledbeast: yeah i know that now Apr 24 17:17:28 after losing my $2 Apr 24 17:17:32 never agagin lol Apr 24 17:17:33 or you `stop bme` and then keep spamming bq24k via i2cset, to prevent it from starting the emergency charge Apr 24 17:17:43 then people wonder why the small devs don' tget anywhere Apr 24 17:17:50 DocScrutinizer05: me? Apr 24 17:17:54 yep Apr 24 17:17:55 because they make people pay for shit they don't maintain Apr 24 17:18:14 but I Apr 24 17:18:18 oops Apr 24 17:18:28 fwiw you don't really need the whole bme replacement Apr 24 17:18:46 sixwheeledbeast: is there even anybody to complain to? can you write to nokia and have them remove fmobi from the ovi store? Apr 24 17:18:48 and I don't see why you need to stop charging either Apr 24 17:18:54 i mean it's pretty much someone selling a broken app Apr 24 17:19:05 just stop bme, modprobe bq2415x_charger, echo off > /sys/class/power_supply/bq24150a/mode Apr 24 17:19:16 errr Apr 24 17:19:16 but really, why do you need to stop charging? Apr 24 17:19:21 I have a 'battery pack' (by sistech, in case anyone wonders, sorry, no link handy atm) that doesn't charge my n900 right away Apr 24 17:19:36 so? Apr 24 17:19:45 so I would like to /start/ charging manually :) Apr 24 17:19:53 haha Apr 24 17:19:56 ...wat Apr 24 17:19:58 Or at least try if that works Apr 24 17:19:59 starting != stopping Apr 24 17:20:16 Macer: I don't think there maintained any more, if they are it's nothing to do with community Apr 24 17:20:42 go for my simple charger script Apr 24 17:20:53 I'll try to explain Apr 24 17:21:15 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/charge21_500mA-USBlimit__UNTESTED.sh Apr 24 17:22:03 sixwheeledbeast: ok. i will see if i can contact nokia Apr 24 17:22:26 If I plug that batpack in the n900 sometimes detects an USB event and offers that pc suite selection dialog Apr 24 17:22:33 Macer: good luck. Apr 24 17:22:35 But it never actually starts charging Apr 24 17:22:44 sixwheeledbeast: hey... better than doing nothing Apr 24 17:22:52 and letting another gang of chumps buy a lemon app Apr 24 17:23:02 that's because of that battery pack has charger signalling for iPhone Apr 24 17:23:26 I agree something should be done. Go for it. Apr 24 17:23:42 hoph0p: bme replacement or that script will allow you to "force" the charging Apr 24 17:23:56 hoph0p: yep, what kerio said Apr 24 17:24:05 which is probably what you want Apr 24 17:24:11 :nod: Apr 24 17:24:14 unless your batpack complains about that Apr 24 17:24:47 Now if I connect a google nexus to that pack, and then quickly remove the nexus and connect the n900 before the batpack switches itself off, it charges the n900 Apr 24 17:24:57 Ok, I will give it a try Apr 24 17:25:22 sounds fun Apr 24 17:25:31 hm, i wonder if a "dumb" cable could fix it Apr 24 17:26:01 It also works if I first charge the n900 from a wall charger, then quickly switch to the batpack... Apr 24 17:27:16 battery pack switches off? Apr 24 17:27:26 kerio: most probably he is using "dumb" cable, that is why it does not work Apr 24 17:27:42 freemangordon: a "dumb" cable won't let the n900 detect anything but a short on D+- Apr 24 17:27:44 sorry, your battery pack is too braindead smart Apr 24 17:28:52 charging on N900 will "stop" every now and then, for a few seconds, particularly at start where it calibrates to battery state Apr 24 17:29:19 if you rpack detects that as end-of-charging and switches down, too bad but not N900's fault Apr 24 17:30:49 you could use a powered USB hub and connect a second consumer to make battery pack detect load during initial phase of N900 charging Apr 24 17:30:54 MEH!! Apr 24 17:31:08 I hate it when they do this Apr 24 17:38:19 mmph, 8 short of 4k on tmo Apr 24 17:38:44 should I cool the champagne? Apr 24 17:44:24 Did any of you guys find a (new) way to make grooveshark work on the n900? Apr 24 17:47:54 n900-dk: you've seen my comments about eligibility to vote, above? Apr 24 17:49:39 bloody h*ll, this wifi sucks Apr 24 17:49:51 DocScrutinizer05: Yes, just follow up on the comments now. You still think I have eligibility to vote - I just created my gmo/mo account yesterday, so I don't expect to have karma Apr 24 17:51:11 so, I was saying that charging works with your script, DocScrutinizer05, dunno if that came through Apr 24 17:51:20 thanks a lot! :) Apr 24 17:52:15 n900-dk: please re-read Apr 24 17:52:22 n900-dk: we ignore karma Apr 24 17:52:39 re: dumb cable, I'm using the nokia-supplied one for lack of a dumber one Apr 24 17:53:08 we however *will* do some checks to rule out fake identity duplicate registrations Apr 24 17:53:17 DocScrutinizer05: ok Apr 24 17:54:17 so links to other maemo related locations where you showed up before would help a lot Apr 24 17:54:23 e.g tmo account Apr 24 17:54:34 hoph0p: nice that it works Apr 24 17:55:07 hoph0p: with "dumb cable" kerio meant a cable with D+- (white and green wire) shorted Apr 24 17:56:22