**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 25 02:59:59 2013 Apr 25 09:59:36 qwazix: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations Apr 25 09:59:52 chem|st: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations Apr 25 10:00:09 kerio: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations Apr 25 10:00:25 merlin1991: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations Apr 25 10:00:52 sixwheeled (not here): please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations Apr 25 10:01:10 thedead1440: please add your data and statement to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations#Candidate_declarations Apr 25 10:02:13 if you need any template or example: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_September_2012/Candidate_declarations Apr 25 10:15:30 spam, much? Apr 25 10:20:16 DocScrutinizer05: i don't know why people should vote for me D: Apr 25 10:23:11 kerio, are you willing to help maemo to continue exist? Apr 25 10:23:26 most definetely Apr 25 10:23:45 are you interested in HiFo getting to pace and manage your donations? Apr 25 10:24:08 yeah Apr 25 10:24:13 hifo should be merged with CoCo Apr 25 10:24:30 coco? Apr 25 10:24:44 community council Apr 25 10:24:48 do you think you have an open ear for what "the community" at large is thinking, where problems exist or get discussed, and how to help solve them? Apr 25 10:25:03 MCC is the term Apr 25 10:25:04 well, i don't go much on tmo... :P Apr 25 10:25:13 kerio: me neither Apr 25 10:25:23 MCC in here means motor control center Apr 25 10:25:32 where's "here"? Apr 25 10:25:35 at work Apr 25 10:25:43 what kind of work? Apr 25 10:25:45 jacekowski, did you looked at non working package promotion? Apr 25 10:26:01 Pali: it's in Works For Me state Apr 25 10:26:01 I hope for community directly pinging me when sth important is happening that community procy MCC should take care of or at least take notice of Apr 25 10:26:54 jacekowski: not working, see: http://maemo.org/packages/view/usbmode/ Apr 25 10:27:05 jacekowski: CoCo here is the name of a silly gimp in kids TV Apr 25 10:27:06 usbmode 1.0-4 Package promoted Apr 25 10:27:15 but nothing in extras-testing Apr 25 10:27:24 hmmm Apr 25 10:27:30 i'll look at that again Apr 25 10:27:30 jacekowski: thus I prefer motor control center Apr 25 10:28:02 jacekowski, and another problem: all kernel-power packages v52 missing at package interface Apr 25 10:28:12 salve Apr 25 10:28:15 http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power/ http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-flasher/ http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-modules/ http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-bootimg/ Apr 25 10:28:21 !list Apr 25 10:28:47 rotfl Apr 25 10:29:03 ._. Apr 25 10:47:58 jacekowski, can you add CSSU repositories to package interface? http://maemo.org/packages/repository/ Apr 25 10:50:54 not at the moment Apr 25 14:37:18 Does a RSA SecurID app exist for maemo? Apr 25 15:18:28 Pali: any clue why VFP emulation is enabled in the kernel? Apr 25 15:18:49 no, I think I never touched it Apr 25 15:19:04 hmm, Iguess we should disable that Apr 25 15:20:10 Pali: CONFIG_VFP=y is he offending flag Apr 25 15:22:30 hmm, wait, that flags description is unclear to me Apr 25 15:25:53 why would you want to disable that? Apr 25 15:26:07 add *all* the flags _ò/ Apr 25 15:26:33 Skry: I was thinking that one is just adding softfloat support to the kernel, now I am not sure Apr 25 15:27:46 Skry: but it looks to me like this is just an undefined instructions handler Apr 25 15:28:42 I think the description is quite clear, "This is needed if your hardware includes a VFP unit" :) Apr 25 15:29:13 Skry: yep, I saw that, but I looked into the code too ;) Apr 25 15:31:00 Skry: actually we have VFPv3 not VFP :P Apr 25 15:31:39 and there is a flag for that, CONFIG_VFPv3, along with CONFIG_NEON Apr 25 15:32:30 oh, depends on: ( CONFIG_VFP ) && ( CONFIG_CPU_V7 ) Apr 25 15:32:37 yup Apr 25 15:33:46 I still see no reason why emulation code is included though Apr 25 15:50:10 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1338840#post1338840 Apr 25 15:50:18 * DocScrutinizer05 HEADDESKS Apr 25 15:51:41 DocScrutinizer05: ask him to donate 500 euro and we'll tell him :D Apr 25 15:52:00 go ahead ;-P Apr 25 15:52:20 naah, I don;t want to post OT shit on that thread Apr 25 15:52:34 PM? Apr 25 15:53:12 you? Apr 25 16:25:11 hello Apr 25 16:35:41 DocScrutinizer05: btw, shouldn't you update the top post to say "ok, our infra now is hosted for free by the awesome IPHH dudes"? Apr 25 16:53:34 hm, i wonder why yappari isn't in the repos Apr 25 17:08:00 kerio: eh? top post? Apr 25 17:08:11 on that thread Apr 25 17:08:20 oooh Apr 25 17:08:57 I'm about to try and get that done on a way more global scale Apr 25 17:09:23 but admittedly completely missed out on tmo Apr 25 17:10:11 chem|st: could you add an eternal praise to IPHH to show up on every tmo webpage? Apr 25 17:10:34 next to 'powered by vBulletin' or sth Apr 25 17:11:57 "powered by IPHH" Apr 25 17:13:13 sth like "thanks to the incredible guys at IPHHfor all their support" Apr 25 17:18:09 GeneralAntilles: I heard you're CO of HiFo, could you please take care about similar mentioning of IPHH on HiFo support/credit page? Apr 25 17:19:05 btw I want to discuss sth with community: Apr 25 17:19:21 * DocScrutinizer51 put council hat on Apr 25 17:20:01 Yeah, I'll look at it. Apr 25 17:20:04 * kerio puts silly hat on Apr 25 17:20:19 a while ago HiFo BoD discussed to move their page to maemo.org infra and let it 'host' by techstaff basically Apr 25 17:21:12 I feel like that shouldn't get done, it gives council and techstaff too much power over HiFo Apr 25 17:21:49 what's your (all of you) take on that? Apr 25 17:21:57 My concern is more "all eggs in one basket". IPHH has some issue and all goes dark. Apr 25 17:22:22 Like having at least one site somewhere else, so if something goes south, we can indicate what's going on there. Apr 25 17:22:31 that too, woody Apr 25 17:22:45 And/or quick host a static "Crap broke, we're working on it" page. :) Apr 25 17:23:00 "it gives council and techstaff too much power over HiFo" Apr 25 17:23:03 fuck yeah, i approve Apr 25 17:24:01 We should, in fact, setup just such a multi-home/vhost page on each site, so if someone hits it with the other's name, it auto-replies with said static pages. Then in emegency all we need to do is repoint DNS till things are fixed. Just saying. :) Apr 25 17:24:11 I mean, we seen HiFo almost got derailed, council isn't immune against similar problems Apr 25 17:25:28 Woody14619: simple to do, just we need constrol over DNS server for that ;-P Apr 25 17:26:21 Right... Just saying, doing the prep of adding a vhost now to answer to something we should never be called as, not a bad idea. ;) Apr 25 17:26:24 while TimS probably has over hifo.org, we're in a pinch with maemo.org Apr 25 17:28:09 was the domain transfer ever completed, btw? Apr 25 17:28:20 well.. once we take that.. yes.. right now... :P Apr 25 17:28:20 I might do that lttle fancy after 8 beer tonight ;-D Apr 25 17:28:36 kerio: not quite yet. Apr 25 17:28:37 eh? Apr 25 17:28:38 Woody14619: anyway, we should probably use a CDN, for all sorts of static content Apr 25 17:29:00 meh! Apr 25 17:29:28 we have no static content Apr 25 17:29:47 and CDN requires transfer of SOA to them aiui Apr 25 17:30:26 no it doesn't Apr 25 17:30:33 not all CDNs, at least Apr 25 17:31:05 DocScrutinizer: dude, the almost totality of repository. is static content Apr 25 17:31:18 anyway, we on't need cdn Apr 25 17:32:35 repo is static til next update of whatever pkg Apr 25 17:32:56 which is perfect for a cdn! :D Apr 25 17:33:15 we don't need a CDN until the next friendly ddos hits Apr 25 17:33:38 no way we increase our techstaff's headache by going to host those 30Mbit via CDN Apr 25 17:33:59 ddos hits on www Apr 25 17:34:37 i thought that the big ddos during the migration was all the n900s hitting repository for the Packages files Apr 25 17:34:47 *locally* via cron + lynx ;-P Apr 25 17:34:56 no Apr 25 17:35:09 it was all the nokia 'cdn' servers Apr 25 17:35:15 Hahaha Apr 25 17:35:20 still counts! Apr 25 17:35:59 akamai serverfarm tryng to sync repo to stage Apr 25 17:36:09 Ki guys! Apr 25 17:36:11 THAT been what killed us Apr 25 17:36:18 *Hi Apr 25 17:37:51 hi Apr 25 17:44:27 What about the banner for Referendum & Elections? - qwazix already has one ready to use: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1189430&postcount=138 (from last elect.) Apr 25 17:45:02 If that's still supposed to be placed, it should be done now, I me thinks Apr 25 17:45:53 I might be able to help if you want changes to it Apr 25 17:47:59 we need to figure how to place banners anywhere Apr 25 17:48:59 the guys who did this before are no longer available Apr 25 17:49:53 still... :-( Apr 25 17:50:00 btw we already placed a few fat notices (according to our knowledge) on http://maemo.org Apr 25 17:50:51 pm the ex-banner-maintainer? ;-) Apr 25 17:50:55 still....? Apr 25 17:51:13 still need to figure how to place a banner Apr 25 17:51:15 X-Fade: PM!! Apr 25 17:51:30 Oh, I have no clue... Apr 25 17:52:01 ~seen X-Fade Apr 25 17:52:03 x-fade is currently on #maemo (6h 20m 6s) #harmattan (6h 20m 6s) #meego (6h 20m 6s) #maemo-ssu (6h 20m 6s), last said: 'ZogG_laptop: ?'. Apr 25 17:52:18 ugh Apr 25 17:52:49 well, last join I guess Apr 25 17:53:55 check chanlog for last time he answered, must've been early 2012 Apr 25 17:54:07 Last Activity: 11-27-2012 and no contact-info on tmo-profile... Apr 25 17:54:46 somebodey must have an email of him? Apr 25 17:55:06 sure, but that doesn't help either Apr 25 17:55:26 he left for no godd? Apr 25 17:55:28 Get one of the Jolla guys to go stab him. Apr 25 17:55:36 Anyway, just proposals Apr 25 17:55:46 he won't care Apr 25 17:55:50 OK Apr 25 17:56:04 he didn't care about autobuilder for 4 months Apr 25 17:56:51 despite several mails and pings Apr 25 17:57:24 OK, then lets forget about X-fade. Apr 25 17:57:52 when I say 'guys are not available' I mean we already tried that Apr 25 17:57:58 Probably you could simply replace the CSSU-banner for the time of elections? Apr 25 17:58:22 sure, as soon as we figure how to do that Apr 25 17:58:41 we're at it! Apr 25 17:59:06 Find the place where this is embedded: http://talk.maemo.org/maemo/resources/cssu.png Apr 25 17:59:12 it's kinda place 2 of our todo list Apr 25 17:59:28 we're no noobs Apr 25 17:59:51 (except me maybe ;D) Apr 25 18:00:08 this is midgard Apr 25 18:00:13 midgard ONE Apr 25 18:00:37 First things first! Apr 25 18:01:03 hmm? Apr 25 18:01:28 ~midgard Apr 25 18:01:29 A PHP Application Server Suite - Web building with Web-based tools. URL: http://www.midgard-project.org/ Apr 25 18:02:24 I'm bickering about midgard and how to edit frontpage since ~24h now, ask warfare freemangordon thedead1440 jacekowski Apr 25 18:02:55 midgard atready updated? Apr 25 18:03:15 eh? Apr 25 18:04:10 you think updating midgard is a simple thing to do? it will most likely break everything on garage and www and repo Apr 25 18:04:28 no Apr 25 18:05:11 if midgard one could easily get updated to midgard two, then probably Nemein (inventor of midgard?) had done it years ago Apr 25 18:06:27 sudo apt-get upgrade midgard Apr 25 18:06:44 rofl Apr 25 18:07:11 an I doubt editing pages and adding/swapping banners is *any* simpler under midgard2 Apr 25 18:08:22 Well, from I got, it should be done anyway, because support for V1 ends soon Apr 25 18:08:42 Will Nemein be helpfull with this? Apr 25 18:09:57 no Apr 25 18:10:02 see above Apr 25 18:10:19 we live without midgard support since ages Apr 25 18:10:21 too bad... hmpf... Apr 25 18:10:42 midgard support == ask nemein Apr 25 18:11:15 nelieve me, we kinda know our business Apr 25 18:12:07 and we'd upgrade to midgard2 rather today than tomorrow if we'd see a chance for this to pan out Apr 25 18:12:26 I absolutely DO! Just trying to help Apr 25 18:14:17 thanks Apr 25 18:35:54 asking for community help! Apr 25 18:35:57 I think a "repligard -m" could help. Apr 25 18:36:16 alas we can't find any repligard binary anywhere Apr 25 18:36:24 any pointer welcome Apr 25 18:37:18 all I could find at aunt google's is sth like "/midcom/lib/repligard" but just as string in a comment Apr 25 19:40:19 DocScrutinizer05, should we use the IPHH logo for the thank you notice? Apr 25 19:40:37 sure, I bet they love that Apr 25 19:41:06 Pinging the board about the relevant changes so Rob doesn't can me for acting without the board's consent. :rolleyes: Apr 25 19:41:36 i've been absent too long. what is happening? i see you're working on midgard, etc.. Apr 25 19:49:13 great read why we *don't* want to migrate to midcom2: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/modernizing-midcom/ Apr 25 19:49:31 simply because bergie/nemein didn't want either Apr 25 19:56:09 anybody spotted repligard binary meanwhile? Apr 25 19:56:20 (or script, or whatever) Apr 25 20:02:31 GeneralAntilles: ask warfare Apr 25 20:02:43 warfare: ...about logo etc Apr 25 20:02:57 if somebody here knows then it's him Apr 25 20:13:10 GeneralAntilles, DocScrutinizer05: http://www.iphh.net/ - Just use the logo from their website. Apr 25 20:13:40 and that URL for href Apr 25 22:08:30 ooh, new h-d :) Apr 25 22:10:02 netsplit Apr 25 22:12:15 sixwheeledbeast: in -devel? Apr 25 22:12:58 kerio yep Apr 25 22:13:17 nice to meet you Apr 25 22:13:36 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1338982&postcount=154 Apr 25 22:13:38 i should probably jump servers Apr 25 22:14:11 I have a good one for you, only 7 users on #maemo Apr 25 22:14:16 now 6 Apr 25 22:14:34 i meant go back to holmes. Apr 25 22:14:42 i'm on barjavel. right now, not sure why Apr 25 22:15:08 I'm on holmes Apr 25 22:15:19 my bouncer has a 2.3ms RTT to holmes.freenode.net Apr 25 22:15:49 try hitchcock.freenode.net ;-P Apr 25 22:16:04 quite quiet there Apr 25 22:16:25 been there, seen it Apr 26 01:25:46 *sigh* Apr 26 01:26:42 ? Apr 26 01:29:06 shit day as usual Apr 26 01:29:31 and all mass spamming doesn't help either Apr 26 01:30:00 at least you added a humble but nice contibution Apr 26 01:31:03 sixwheeled hiding Apr 26 01:31:21 the others deaf or blind Apr 26 01:32:31 the hell not even thedead1440 Apr 26 01:32:55 kerio for president Apr 26 01:58:35 Just in case you figure out how to fix banners, here's some choice. Please leave comments or use as is: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bfepsm83179n99e/wdbEKS9TOq Apr 26 02:23:19 * Win7Mac_alt says goodnight and awaits comments on the baners. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 26 02:59:58 2013