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Apr 26 05:09:10 <DocScrutinizer05> Nyan Nyah Mayan ayanahanabyabdhsjzhshsjahsnshz­hsnsnahsjsnanzhsnajsnsns
Apr 26 05:26:27 <thomax> morning
Apr 26 05:34:45 <DocScrutinizer05> morning
Apr 26 05:36:54 <kerio> me for president! \o/
Apr 26 05:37:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I just found a method to get over it when maemo gets too crazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZZ7oFKsKzY  - but not click it one time, click it FIVE times, or 6, or 7...
Apr 26 05:39:40 <kerio> only nyan cat?
Apr 26 05:41:17 <DocScrutinizer05> 746254 nyan cats
Apr 26 05:41:34 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: http://nyan.cat/
Apr 26 05:41:49 <DocScrutinizer05> r33b.net
Apr 26 05:42:35 <kerio> are you seriously expecting that site to juALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
Apr 26 05:51:28 <DocScrutinizer05> kerio: in 2 weeks, when votes closed, I'll simply post this as result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W84DLa0CLNE&feature=player_embedded
Apr 26 05:52:03 <DocScrutinizer05> I think that android guy on fundraiser thread blew my fuse....
Apr 26 06:01:05 <DocScrutinizer05> LOL  http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojo/Server/Hypnotoad
Apr 26 06:15:12 <kerio> i slept like 3 hours :<
Apr 26 06:15:24 <Macer> is there an audio boosting app?
Apr 26 06:15:33 <Macer> to get just a bit more out of the jack?
Apr 26 06:15:50 <kerio> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/dsp
Apr 26 06:15:55 <kerio> about the same effect
Apr 26 06:16:47 <Macer> wtf? lol
Apr 26 06:16:57 <Macer> so.... no?
Apr 26 06:17:27 <kerio> you could compress the shit out of everything you put out
Apr 26 06:17:38 <kerio> but that's been done already by the record companies
Apr 26 06:17:59 <kerio> gotta love having no dynamic range
Apr 26 06:23:38 <qwazix> Macer, try alsamixer -c0 and play with the sliders. but don't do this without headphones plugged in, you can blow your speakers
Apr 26 06:24:32 <Macer> ok
Apr 26 06:27:13 <Macer> ah ok
Apr 26 06:27:18 <Macer> that gave a bit more
Apr 26 06:28:17 <Macer> max in hildon is 88 in alsa
Apr 26 06:33:35 <qwazix> yep. But this is due to fragile loudspeakers so remember to reset it when you unplug (if it don't reset by itself)
Apr 26 07:20:55 <teotwaki> [master fa5668c] Completely reindented and changed formatting
Apr 26 07:20:55 <teotwaki> 534 files changed, 317131 insertions(+), 291584 deletions(-)
Apr 26 07:21:53 <Macer> too bad irc doesnt count for karma lol
Apr 26 07:22:25 <teotwaki> karma?
Apr 26 07:22:53 <Macer> for voting
Apr 26 07:23:02 <teotwaki> ah
Apr 26 07:23:02 * Macer points at the topic
Apr 26 07:23:18 <Macer> i still dont see the need for the hildon council
Apr 26 07:23:28 <Macer> why can't everything be consolidated?
Apr 26 07:23:32 <teotwaki> Yeah, well. We've asked IRC be integrated into the karma count for ages
Apr 26 07:23:36 <Macer> isnt there a maemo council as well? :)
Apr 26 07:25:08 <Macer> later i will pay $20/month for chinese "users" and singlehandedly sway the vote lol
Apr 26 07:25:51 <Macer> that is kind of what i dont understand
Apr 26 07:26:17 <Macer> there is a maemo.org council
Apr 26 07:26:22 <Macer> and a hildon council
Apr 26 07:26:35 <Macer> seems a bit redundant
Apr 26 07:27:43 <Macer> i dont understand why there can't just be a maemo.org council
Apr 26 07:29:48 <Macer> http://www.mwkn.net/2013/10/front.html
Apr 26 07:30:09 <Macer> seems the hildon council didnt see a need either?
Apr 26 07:32:52 <kerio> Macer: because rob bauer is an asshole
Apr 26 07:33:50 <Macer> who?
Apr 26 07:36:04 <Macer> sorry.. i dont keep up with the maemo sunday night theater
Apr 26 07:36:15 <Macer> i dont know all the characters
Apr 26 07:56:41 <teotwaki> Macer: basically, some douche went overly bureaucratic on the whole thing
Apr 26 07:56:51 <teotwaki> Macer: it started out strong, went down like a house of cards
Apr 26 07:59:45 <Macer> lol. it seems so. i was reading some of the posts
Apr 26 08:00:01 <Macer> meh. he was voted out wasnt he? :)
Apr 26 08:00:05 <Macer> so change it
Apr 26 08:00:29 <Macer> maintaining two councils for the same thing seems redundant
Apr 26 08:00:57 <Macer> i'm sure it isnt too difficult to inform nokia of the dissolution
Apr 26 08:01:36 <kerio> Macer: that's why we're planning on merging them
Apr 26 08:17:42 <Macer> i see
Apr 26 09:47:33 <XATRIX> Hi guys, can you tell me, HSDPA = WCDMA(UMTS) 
Apr 26 09:47:35 <XATRIX> ?
Apr 26 09:50:09 <kerio> hsdpa is a faster version of wcdma
Apr 26 09:50:14 <kerio> or something
Apr 26 09:50:27 <kerio> same "system", just a better way to push data
Apr 26 10:17:13 <XATRIX> Ah right
Apr 26 14:30:27 <lokimotive> yo
Apr 26 14:30:49 <jacekowski> hi
Apr 26 14:36:00 <lokimotive> what's up?
Apr 26 14:39:47 <bef0rd_> hi
Apr 26 14:42:29 <Win7Mac> nothing. #maemo is asleep. ZZZZZZZZZZ......
Apr 26 17:08:19 <fil> is it expected fo scratchbox to result in lots of coredumps -- I'm currently attempting to build a recent version of cmake, and it's giving the feeling of slowly consuming some resource, until more and more things start dying -- restarting scratchbox makes things better again, but at one point I was being told that it couldn't find a working compiler, presumably because gcc was segfaulting
Apr 26 17:08:46 <fil> is there some way of giving it more RAM to play with, say?
Apr 26 17:11:05 <vldcnst> Is there a mirror of http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php somewhere?
Apr 26 17:14:26 <Pali> vldcnst, here: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/
Apr 26 17:14:44 <vldcnst> Pali: thank you
Apr 26 17:58:17 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: please edit http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2013/Candidate_declarations
Apr 26 17:58:45 <DocScrutinizer05> council meeting
Apr 26 17:58:53 <DocScrutinizer05> in 70s
Apr 26 17:59:40 <sixwheeledbeast> DocScrutinizer05: it's on my to-do list
Apr 26 18:11:18 <Cas> Is it possible to append "kernel-feature-errata-430973-workaround[armel]" to debian control file Depends only if building thumb?
Apr 26 18:39:13 <kerio> Cas: it's not the same, but the workaround can be disabled via a certain sysnode
Apr 26 18:39:24 <kerio> on a running system
Apr 26 19:10:26 <Woody14619> Don't forget to vote everyone.  Have a nice weekend!
Apr 26 19:10:54 <kerio> how do i vote
Apr 26 19:10:58 <kerio> who do i vote for
Apr 26 19:19:12 <Woody14619a> kerio, same place as always pinky:  maemo.org/vote
Apr 26 19:19:29 <Win7Mac> kerio, BoD-elections will be held later . Actually voting is only for referendum, then council
Apr 26 19:19:33 <kerio> but... i already voted for the referendum :(
Apr 26 19:19:59 <Win7Mac> your token is valid for REF and council
Apr 26 19:20:23 <Win7Mac> you can use it again
Apr 26 19:21:21 <Woody14619a> in the other election(s).  So we don't have to send out thousands of e-mails for all of them.   You'd know that if you actually read the letter your token came in. ;)
Apr 26 19:22:44 <Win7Mac> woody, how many token have been sent, is that public info?
Apr 26 19:23:09 <Woody14619a> ~6K.
Apr 26 19:23:39 <Woody14619a> Andyes, it is, at least now it is. :)
Apr 26 19:29:22 <Win7Mac> If you could provide the exact number I can put it in that banner. I'll gladly edit the other banners as desired, please comment on them. Is 1 banner for referendum AND cuncil elect. preferred?
Apr 26 19:39:11 * zammy is away: I'm busy
Apr 26 19:45:41 <DocScrutinizer05> Win7Mac: I'm currently checking back with tmo admin, wait a minute please
Apr 26 19:46:55 <Win7Mac> shure
Apr 26 20:03:40 <DocScrutinizer05> Win7Mac: #4 council elects_5-2013_REF.png is fine, date correct, I'll use it for now. We probably will want some edits for the icons needed for further elections
Apr 26 20:04:32 <DocScrutinizer05> I can't reach chem|st to ask him to put up a banner on tmo
Apr 26 20:05:06 <DocScrutinizer05> which btw shows why we need a stand-in for all our maintainers
Apr 26 20:06:05 <DocScrutinizer05> it's a bit unfortunate that we have to deal with such a task like 4 voting processes now, only 2 months after we took over maintainership of whole maemo
Apr 26 20:06:23 <DocScrutinizer05> (actually de jure we not even did yet)
Apr 26 20:16:31 <Win7Mac> Great, for the banners at least. Come back anytime for any edits.
Apr 26 20:18:02 <DocScrutinizer05> sure thing
Apr 26 20:18:07 <DocScrutinizer05> many thanks
Apr 26 20:18:11 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)
Apr 26 20:21:38 <Win7Mac> glad, when I'm able to help. All thanks go to Council these days!
Apr 26 20:36:38 <Win7Mac> Esp. you... You may consider these alternatives: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s11hmg3rusxdngi/council%20elects_5-2013_REF-2.png + https://www.dropbox.com/s/zo3bbtz8ufqhfui/council%20elects_5-2013_COUNCIL-2.png
Apr 26 20:55:32 <DocScrutinizer05> alas dropbox is particularly unsuited for e.g. embeeding .png into a tmo post :-/
Apr 26 20:56:16 <DocScrutinizer05> vBulletin's fault, which implements embedded images as external links - what an idiocy
Apr 26 20:58:21 <Win7Mac> "Doc: dropbox is particularly unsuited for e.g. embeeding .png into a tmo post" - yeah, I always edit the URL from clipboard...
Apr 26 20:58:41 <Win7Mac> if posting on tmo
Apr 26 20:58:59 <Win7Mac> but here...
Apr 26 21:01:33 <kerio> just use imgur
Apr 26 21:01:49 <kerio> fast as shit, and probably CDNd
Apr 26 21:04:05 <Win7Mac> "CDNd"?
Apr 26 21:05:39 <kerio> uses a Content Distribution Network
Apr 26 21:05:45 <kerio> to not have a single load
Apr 26 21:14:01 <Win7Mac> Doc, I assumed they get copied to own server anyway
Apr 26 21:36:24 <Pali> DocScrutinizer05, I still cannot login to maemo.org
Apr 26 21:54:21 <DocScrutinizer05> Win7Mac: alas they aren't
Apr 26 21:55:11 <DocScrutinizer05> pali (away o.O): yes, see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1338821&postcount=60
Apr 26 21:56:28 <Win7Mac> DocS: want me to upload on imgur?
Apr 26 21:56:52 <DocScrutinizer05> I'll try to find a way to work around it
Apr 26 22:04:20 <Win7Mac_alt> Try https://dl.dropbox.com/s/123456789/filename.png
Apr 26 22:09:43 <Win7Mac_alt> or https://dl.dropbox.com/sh/...
Apr 26 22:50:02 <DocScrutinizer05> doesn't work, 404
Apr 26 22:54:01 <Win7Mac_alt> strange, i'll upload to imgur
Apr 26 22:54:57 <Win7Mac_alt> it works here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1310347&postcount=29
Apr 26 22:57:02 <DocScrutinizer05> well, that are not the right pictures and also I don't see the original URL
Apr 26 22:57:34 <Win7Mac_alt> the links there work...
Apr 26 22:57:55 <Win7Mac_alt> but don't ever bother, I'll deliver proper links
Apr 26 22:58:08 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, I got no time to investigate what are the links there
Apr 26 22:59:08 <DocScrutinizer05> as already mentioned I don't see the original links you used in creating the images in that post
Apr 26 23:00:30 <Win7Mac_alt> https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ry4zezqzx4ushak/screen-PSM_on.png
Apr 26 23:01:05 <DocScrutinizer05> *sigh* can't use that link for elections either
Apr 26 23:01:30 <DocScrutinizer05> afk, sorry
Apr 26 23:02:25 <Win7Mac_alt> registering on imgur...
Apr 26 23:19:56 <radic_> knuddels.de supports nazis. resistance required. look at screenshots at http://info-tbb.de/~radic/knd_supports_nazis.png
Apr 26 23:21:46 <Win7Mac_alt> finally got it... http://imgur.com/a/HcfMg
Apr 26 23:32:06 <Win7Mac_alt> DocS: works?
Apr 26 23:32:26 <radic_> http://info-tbb.de/~radic/1-knd.png compleates the reason of my /amsg
Apr 26 23:39:49 <bef0rd> hi
Apr 26 23:46:59 <bef0rd> that png must be huge
Apr 26 23:47:20 <bef0rd> its's been loading for a while and just got the top taskbar
Apr 26 23:47:49 <RiD> hm
Apr 26 23:48:13 <RiD> how many MBs does the stock nokia theme uses in *ram*
Apr 26 23:48:22 <RiD> the same as in emmc, right?
Apr 26 23:48:39 <RiD> (i guess it loads everything....?)
Apr 27 00:13:52 <Win7Mac_alt> need to go to bed...
Apr 27 00:14:25 <Win7Mac_alt> you're ok with that?
Apr 27 01:25:30 <Win7Mac_alt> Trying to send via irc chatter as Win7Mac_N9, I get a msg. [ERROR] There is no such nickname. Missing smth?
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