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Apr 29 05:46:45 <DocScrutinizer05> actually when ron0062000 asked, the referendum voting booth already should've been re-opened :-/
Apr 29 05:47:11 <DocScrutinizer05> dammit
Apr 29 05:47:27 <DocScrutinizer05> another night wasted in useless panic mode
Apr 29 05:49:12 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm soooooo fed up with all this
Apr 29 06:35:27 <skyroveRR> Hello, I own a nokia C5-00, and it has an ARM 11 processor running at 600 MHz, and my RAM is 123MB, and the ROM is around 7616kB, meaning 7.5MB, roughly, I was wondering whether I can install linux on my phone.
Apr 29 06:41:26 <rikanee> skyroveRR: good luck getting past Nokia's enforced NOLO code signing and renamed ARM registers
Apr 29 06:42:38 <skyroveRR> Alright.. well I am new to flashing, so, could you elaborate that for me, please? 
Apr 29 06:50:51 <skyroveRR> rikanee: Uh, nvm, I found it, I just wanted a few links and I found it through google.
Apr 29 09:54:28 <zammy> here we are finally I received my n900
Apr 29 09:54:30 <zammy> hands on
Apr 29 09:55:32 <zammy> lol the previous user has forgotten to delete his own video and files
Apr 29 09:55:34 <zammy> ahahahaha
Apr 29 09:56:44 <Riviera> it's a common test by intelligence services to check on your trustworthiness
Apr 29 09:57:00 <Riviera> you've been chosen, but likely just failed
Apr 29 09:57:52 <zammy> I will keep some music
Apr 29 09:58:03 <zammy> but vids were sucky
Apr 29 09:58:10 <kerio> it's a common test by RIAA to check on your trustworthiness
Apr 29 09:58:15 <kerio> you've been chosen, but likely just failed
Apr 29 09:58:54 <kerio> zammy: do a full reflash
Apr 29 09:59:19 <zammy> how to do that
Apr 29 09:59:21 <kerio> hell, if you feel full paranoid, you should reflash nolo via coldflash and then do a full reflash
Apr 29 09:59:23 <kerio> ~flashing
Apr 29 09:59:23 <infobot> maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Apr 29 09:59:24 <kerio> ~pr131
Apr 29 09:59:25 <infobot> somebody said combined was the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin  or  http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Apr 29 09:59:45 <zammy> ?
Apr 29 09:59:48 <kerio> (and even then, you'd be putting your faith in the ROMBL rom)
Apr 29 09:59:53 <kerio> zammy: read the first link
Apr 29 09:59:55 <kerio> well
Apr 29 09:59:57 <kerio> click the first link
Apr 29 10:00:00 <kerio> and read the curresponding page
Apr 29 10:00:15 <zammy> thi wiki?
Apr 29 10:02:19 <zammy> uh james blunt it's ok
Apr 29 10:02:26 <zammy> he had james blunt
Apr 29 10:04:26 <zammy> fucking good speakers dude
Apr 29 10:04:37 <zammy> even jazz
Apr 29 10:04:56 <zammy> no some music is good
Apr 29 10:05:05 <zammy> I don't wanna flash over all
Apr 29 10:14:01 <kerio> zammy: don't complain when your bank account data gets stolen then
Apr 29 10:18:58 <zammy> oh
Apr 29 10:19:27 <zammy> how to write the sys blue symbols
Apr 29 10:19:31 <zammy> on this keyboard
Apr 29 10:20:16 <zammy> oh I got it
Apr 29 10:21:19 <zammy> shit on sudo I don't know the password
Apr 29 10:22:35 <rikanee> zammy: 'sudo gainroot'
Apr 29 10:22:52 <rikanee> or 'rootsh'
Apr 29 10:23:29 <XATRIX> Hi guys, i'm trying to share some .jpg file via TinySMB , i can connect to share, but it lists no files in
Apr 29 10:23:36 <XATRIX> Any idea what's wrong with it ?
Apr 29 10:24:11 <XATRIX> If i use built-in file manager and open my microSD , where the files are - it can find all the files i need
Apr 29 10:24:20 <XATRIX> But no files diplayed via smb
Apr 29 10:31:14 <zammy> hey kerio that flashing guide fails because there is an errore occurring while processing my request at tablets-dev.nokia.com
Apr 29 10:31:26 <kerio> ~skeiron
Apr 29 10:31:27 <infobot> from memory, skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/   http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143
Apr 29 10:31:31 <kerio> first link
Apr 29 10:31:36 <kerio> tablets-dev.nokia.com is in a weird state
Apr 29 10:31:43 <kerio> nokia guaranteed that that stuff wouldn't go away
Apr 29 10:31:47 <kerio> and then it went away
Apr 29 10:33:45 <zammy> I got it on http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/
Apr 29 10:33:47 <zammy> thx
Apr 29 10:34:13 <zammy> however default root password should be?
Apr 29 10:34:16 <kerio> advice: uninstall the "cherry" package before putting your sim in
Apr 29 10:34:20 <kerio> there's no default root password
Apr 29 10:34:37 <kerio> and the "user" user isn't allowed to sudo, by default
Apr 29 10:34:39 <kerio> and su doesn't work
Apr 29 10:34:47 <kerio> install openssh with the graphical package manager
Apr 29 10:34:50 <kerio> it'll ask you to set the root password
Apr 29 10:34:54 <kerio> then you can ssh root@localhost
Apr 29 10:34:57 <kerio> it's the cleanest way
Apr 29 10:35:12 <zammy> I mean on xterminal into my n900
Apr 29 10:35:16 <kerio> yeah
Apr 29 10:35:19 <kerio> i also meant that
Apr 29 10:35:20 <zammy> how to install stuff
Apr 29 10:35:32 <kerio> "application manager" in the menu
Apr 29 10:35:40 <kerio> until you get root access
Apr 29 10:36:44 <zammy> wow I can even read pdf
Apr 29 10:38:51 <zammy> well sudo gainroot works
Apr 29 10:39:33 <zammy> something happened weird
Apr 29 10:39:36 <zammy> I wrote yes
Apr 29 10:39:46 <zammy> and it's in loop now with y
Apr 29 10:39:48 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:48 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:49 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:49 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:49 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:50 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:51 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:53 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:55 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:57 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:39:59 <zammy> y
Apr 29 10:40:06 <XATRIX> )
Apr 29 10:40:08 <zammy> alright
Apr 29 10:40:14 <zammy> I have done ctrl c
Apr 29 10:40:19 <zammy> as on normal terminal
Apr 29 10:41:14 <zammy> if it asks me if I am root
Apr 29 10:41:18 <zammy> what's the answer?
Apr 29 10:41:26 <zammy> simply y?
Apr 29 10:42:34 <zammy> wtf
Apr 29 10:42:39 <zammy> I don't get root
Apr 29 10:44:49 <XATRIX> you can check whether you're root or not with #whoami 
Apr 29 10:44:59 <zammy> right
Apr 29 10:45:03 <XATRIX> if it returns root - you are
Apr 29 10:45:19 <zammy> maybe on /etc/sudoers
Apr 29 10:45:21 <zammy> I find
Apr 29 10:46:16 <zammy> it says me I am user sigh!
Apr 29 10:48:43 <XATRIX> ~tinysmb
Apr 29 10:49:07 <XATRIX> Is there anyone who code tinysmb ?
Apr 29 10:51:16 <XATRIX> zammy: install 'sudser'
Apr 29 10:51:23 <XATRIX> then simply #rush
Apr 29 10:51:28 <XATRIX> and you're done
Apr 29 12:43:33 <zammy> kerio,  having installed rootsh
Apr 29 12:43:38 <zammy> what now?
Apr 29 14:34:17 <Sysaxed> has anybody tried smscon? I'm trying to use email feature but email are not arriving at all
Apr 29 14:36:38 <Sysaxed> address, username, emailfrom - all are just my email
Apr 29 14:36:50 <Sysaxed> mailserver: smtp.gmail.com, port 465
Apr 29 14:37:15 <Sysaxed> and for password I use google generated password (because I use 2-step verification)
Apr 29 14:44:27 <Sysaxed> oh
Apr 29 14:44:35 <Sysaxed> port 587 works correctly
Apr 29 15:18:08 <GeneralAntilles> DocScrutinizer05, updated the supporters page for HiFo
Apr 29 15:18:15 <GeneralAntilles> http://hildonfoundation.org/supporters
Apr 29 15:19:34 <zammy> I find problems with this nokia n900
Apr 29 15:22:00 <Sysaxed> zammy: ?
Apr 29 15:25:20 <zammy> I want root user
Apr 29 15:25:28 <zammy> when whoami I get user
Apr 29 15:25:32 <zammy> I would  be root
Apr 29 15:25:57 <GeneralAntilles> http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access
Apr 29 15:26:07 <zammy> I got rootsh this makes me get su
Apr 29 15:36:00 <zammy> kerio,  you said to get remote access you were right but how to get it if I can't also install openssh
Apr 29 15:36:23 <kerio> using the graphical package manager
Apr 29 15:36:28 <kerio> aka Application Manager
Apr 29 15:36:39 <kerio> also, have you reflashed?
Apr 29 15:36:52 <Sysaxed> what do you mean by "can't install openssh" ?
Apr 29 15:37:44 <zammy> not reflashed
Apr 29 15:37:49 <Sysaxed> ?
Apr 29 15:38:04 <zammy> alright I have just installed it now
Apr 29 15:38:08 <Sysaxed> why would you need to reflash just to install it?
Apr 29 15:39:19 <zammy> kerio
Apr 29 15:39:30 <zammy> I don't even get application manager
Apr 29 15:39:35 <kerio> Sysaxed: it's a new used n900
Apr 29 15:39:40 <kerio> zammy: yes you do
Apr 29 15:39:42 <kerio> it's in the menu
Apr 29 15:40:02 <zammy> alright I get inside that blue cool looks like ps3 menu
Apr 29 15:40:05 <zammy> right?
Apr 29 15:40:10 <zammy> that cool blue electric
Apr 29 15:40:12 <zammy> stuff
Apr 29 15:40:46 <zammy> but I don't get any list of packages
Apr 29 15:40:56 <zammy> neither some repository into catalogs
Apr 29 15:41:00 <zammy> I don't get a list
Apr 29 15:41:34 <zammy> now I am still installing openssh
Apr 29 15:41:49 <zammy> it takes a big time to install
Apr 29 15:42:01 <zammy> now all done
Apr 29 15:42:35 <zammy> AAAAAAAAAAAAA finally I am in by ssh in remote
Apr 29 15:42:53 <zammy> loooooool
Apr 29 15:43:07 <zammy> Nokia-N900:~# sudo apt-get install wget
Apr 29 15:43:07 <zammy> root is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
Apr 29 15:43:58 <zammy> also if I wrote in x terminal inside the n900 sudo gainroot... having super user as user as well
Apr 29 15:44:09 <zammy> then trying to install wget I got the same message
Apr 29 15:44:19 <zammy> it's not in the sudoers
Apr 29 15:44:33 <jacekowski> just apt-get install wget
Apr 29 15:44:36 <jacekowski> you are root already
Apr 29 15:44:54 <zammy> Nokia-N900:~# apt-get install wget     
Apr 29 15:44:54 <zammy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
Apr 29 15:44:55 <zammy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
Apr 29 15:45:19 <jacekowski> ham is running probably
Apr 29 15:45:21 <jacekowski> or something
Apr 29 15:45:28 <zammy> alright I closed it
Apr 29 15:45:29 <zammy> XD
Apr 29 15:45:34 <jacekowski> try again 
Apr 29 15:45:36 <zammy> wtf
Apr 29 15:45:38 <zammy> it works
Apr 29 15:46:07 <zammy> I am loving it
Apr 29 15:46:41 <zammy> apparently the previous user of this nokia neither knew about linux
Apr 29 15:46:49 <zammy> he was just using iphone
Apr 29 15:47:08 <zammy> this is the reasone why he sold me this n900
Apr 29 15:47:18 <zammy> I don't need to flash it 
Apr 29 15:47:55 <jacekowski> you may want to reflash it just in case he messed something up
Apr 29 15:48:22 <zammy> but at moments I am selecting its music selection
Apr 29 15:48:43 <zammy> then I can save all this music and if I will want to... I will reflash
Apr 29 15:50:43 <zammy> something got wrong
Apr 29 15:50:51 <zammy> I haved done passwd root
Apr 29 15:51:05 <zammy> then I entered and re-entered my passwd
Apr 29 15:51:24 <zammy> I try to access to root then on x terminal on n900
Apr 29 15:51:30 <zammy> login incorrect
Apr 29 15:52:28 <DocScrutinizer05> and we've learnt another invaluable lesson: test logins in a SECOND shell while keeping first shell open to revert our edits
Apr 29 15:52:56 <DocScrutinizer05> just in case login fails
Apr 29 15:53:14 <zammy> I am more familiar to use nano 
Apr 29 15:53:20 <zammy> but here default is vi
Apr 29 15:53:26 <zammy> I would to install nano
Apr 29 15:53:29 <zammy> does not allow
Apr 29 15:54:02 <zammy> how to close vi
Apr 29 15:55:14 <DocScrutinizer05> hah, that's the reason I rarely ever use vi
Apr 29 15:55:32 <DocScrutinizer05> try sth like <esc>q!
Apr 29 15:55:50 <zammy> nothing
Apr 29 15:55:55 <DocScrutinizer05> or ask somebody else
Apr 29 15:55:59 <zammy> lol
Apr 29 15:56:39 <n900-dk> zammy: <esc>:q!
Apr 29 15:57:19 <n900-dk> or <esc>:wq! - if you want to write and quit :)
Apr 29 15:58:10 <zammy> I have closed the ssh
Apr 29 15:58:11 <zammy> lol
Apr 29 15:58:26 <zammy> I messed up with terminator
Apr 29 16:00:09 <zammy> what does this mean http://paste2.org/5LsXUDYN
Apr 29 16:00:45 <zammy> cool how email works fine
Apr 29 16:02:33 <zammy> I got it
Apr 29 16:02:40 <zammy> it's italian S and not english Y
Apr 29 16:02:43 <zammy> wtf
Apr 29 16:02:45 <zammy> XD
Apr 29 16:04:17 <zammy> LOOOOOOOOL /etc/apt/sources.list is empty
Apr 29 16:04:38 <zammy> and I am using nano finally so I know what I am seeing
Apr 29 16:04:41 <zammy> XD
Apr 29 16:06:20 <zammy> uh I got my x terminal inside n900 working now
Apr 29 16:06:36 <zammy> I am root
Apr 29 16:06:46 <zammy> wtf about repository
Apr 29 16:07:18 <zammy> how looks like your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
Apr 29 16:10:24 <DocScrutinizer05> reflash already!
Apr 29 16:11:36 <DocScrutinizer05> my /etc/apt/sources.list  looks all fine, since I never edited it manually since I flashed device
Apr 29 16:12:54 <DocScrutinizer05> which btw is a very poor idea, since on maemo you got other files than that
Apr 29 16:13:21 <DocScrutinizer05> (I mean editing /etc/apt/sources.list is a really poor idea)
Apr 29 16:14:43 <DocScrutinizer05> less /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
Apr 29 16:15:14 <DocScrutinizer05> and even that is a poor idea to edit manually
Apr 29 16:16:00 <DocScrutinizer05> *always* use Hildon Application Manager aka HAM menu "catalogs" to edit repos
Apr 29 16:31:25 <zammy> alright now I have made all repository complete
Apr 29 16:59:42 <zammy> kerio,  latest n900 firmware is this ? http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Apr 29 17:21:56 <zammy> alright all done latest firmware... I am gonna to flash it by my win7...
Apr 29 17:31:40 <sixwheeledbeast> zammy: XP or ubuntu is better if possible
Apr 29 17:59:31 <DocScrutinizer05> zammy: latest firmware is
Apr 29 17:59:34 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pr131
Apr 29 17:59:36 <infobot> rumour has it, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin  or  http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Apr 29 18:16:34 <zammy> yes DocScrutinizer05 I used that firmware
Apr 29 18:16:38 <zammy> kerio,  said me that
Apr 29 18:17:19 <zammy> but as I have done it I found out it's the same as before
Apr 29 18:17:30 <zammy> with inside all that music
Apr 29 18:17:40 <zammy> and all other stuff belonging to previous user
Apr 29 18:17:48 <zammy> I don't complain about having that
Apr 29 18:18:10 <zammy> I just wanted to discover how could I do a flash of my n900
Apr 29 18:18:17 <zammy> as a ritual
Apr 29 18:19:25 <zammy> and maybe I have done a better flash to the newest one 
Apr 29 18:19:52 <sixwheeledbeast> you need to flash both, combined and rootfs to remove everything.
Apr 29 18:20:23 <zammy> why should I remove all?
Apr 29 18:21:39 <zammy> however yes! I have updated at the latest firmware
Apr 29 18:21:51 <zammy> I can notice a big difference
Apr 29 18:22:53 <DocScrutinizer05> please see 
Apr 29 18:22:57 <DocScrutinizer05> ~flashing
Apr 29 18:22:58 <infobot> from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Apr 29 18:23:19 <DocScrutinizer05> read it once, from first to very last line, not skipping anything
Apr 29 18:23:32 <DocScrutinizer05> after you've done that, read again
Apr 29 18:24:20 <DocScrutinizer05> then wait an hour which you take for pondering all stuff and particularly effects you see, like "this is the same firmware, with all the music"
Apr 29 18:24:34 <DocScrutinizer05> then after an hour or two, read ~flashing a third time
Apr 29 18:26:09 <sixwheeledbeast> lol, it does take some absorbing.
Apr 29 18:26:42 <sixwheeledbeast> Major edits for different versions of Maemo didn't help.
Apr 29 18:26:59 <zammy> but which is the purpose... I mean it sounds really interesting I would really work on it, especially to improve my english
Apr 29 18:28:50 <DocScrutinizer05> .oO(???)
Apr 29 18:29:02 <zammy> I don't anything without a reason
Apr 29 18:29:46 <zammy> since I have no reason to flash again my phone... well its music is becoming my music
Apr 29 18:29:52 <DocScrutinizer05> well, then read the headline of http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, for the reason of 2it tells me what this article is about"
Apr 29 18:30:00 <DocScrutinizer05> s/2/"/
Apr 29 18:30:01 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: well, then read the headline of http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, for the reason of "it tells me what this article is about"
Apr 29 18:31:12 <zammy> idk why but since I joined this channel I have opened many many times the same page without have any interest
Apr 29 18:31:13 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#What_does_it_do.3F    http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#N900
Apr 29 18:31:57 <zammy> I have read it 
Apr 29 18:32:06 <DocScrutinizer05> ((since I joined this channel I have opened many many times the same page without have any interest)) then I have another page for you:
Apr 29 18:32:06 <zammy> I know I did just vanilla stuff
Apr 29 18:32:10 <zammy> I did not combined
Apr 29 18:32:11 <DocScrutinizer05> ~question
Apr 29 18:32:12 <infobot> from memory, question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Apr 29 18:32:12 <zammy> I know iut
Apr 29 18:32:55 <zammy> here we are... studying all the night... I suppose
Apr 29 18:32:57 <zammy> XD
Apr 29 18:33:08 <DocScrutinizer05> well, when you did just vanilla stuff then you failed epically to grok what's written on http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Apr 29 18:34:04 <DocScrutinizer05> and I'm sure you even failed with "doing VANILLA" as then your predecessor's music would've been gone
Apr 29 18:34:27 <DocScrutinizer05> unless it's stored on a uSD
Apr 29 18:34:43 <zammy> there is no SD
Apr 29 18:35:02 <DocScrutinizer05> then you definitely failed to flash *anything*
Apr 29 18:35:21 <zammy> yes I have just updated
Apr 29 18:35:33 <sixwheeledbeast> I don't understand the question/problem...
Apr 29 18:35:45 <zammy> don't you think what I have done it's ok for me?
Apr 29 18:35:52 <zammy> I wanted all I have done
Apr 29 18:35:56 <DocScrutinizer05> or you flashed http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin and didn't realize it's *COMBINED* not VANILLA
Apr 29 18:36:06 <zammy> I have done well what I find now between my hands
Apr 29 18:36:14 <zammy> I don't really know what's problem
Apr 29 18:36:33 <zammy> it's a pure lesson about flashing ?
Apr 29 18:36:42 <zammy> dude thanks a lot but I don't need it
Apr 29 18:37:08 <DocScrutinizer05> no, it also explains about what it's doing, and that includes explanation what VANILLA and COMBINED *are*
Apr 29 18:37:15 <zammy> I have read on an italian guide for n900
Apr 29 18:37:23 <DocScrutinizer05> dude thanks a lot but you *do* need it
Apr 29 18:37:37 <zammy> I am italian and I would really keep all the night If I would really to flash
Apr 29 18:37:49 <sixwheeledbeast>  DocScrutinizer05: is does yes/no vote end tonight GMT? When will results be available?
Apr 29 18:37:50 <zammy> I would really keep reading all the night that
Apr 29 18:37:55 <zammy> but I don't
Apr 29 18:38:01 <zammy> I am fine thanks
Apr 29 18:38:02 <sixwheeledbeast> s/is/ /
Apr 29 18:38:03 <infobot> sixwheeledbeast meant:  DocScrutinizer05:   does yes/no vote end tonight GMT? When will results be available?
Apr 29 18:38:20 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: as soon as somebody starts counting in voting-admin web interface
Apr 29 18:39:23 <sixwheeledbeast> so eta tomorrow?
Apr 29 18:39:40 <zammy> you know what?
Apr 29 18:39:58 <zammy> I was also backing up all this memory with all its music
Apr 29 18:40:04 <Win7Mac> let's do it tonight, will woody do it?
Apr 29 18:40:11 <zammy> before doing this first time flash on my n900
Apr 29 18:40:31 <sixwheeledbeast> not rushing anything just unsure of the normal turnaround plan.
Apr 29 18:40:32 <DocScrutinizer05> well, either he or me
Apr 29 18:40:36 <zammy> I wanted that I could keep my music
Apr 29 18:40:44 <zammy> by now this is my music
Apr 29 18:40:49 <zammy> this is my deal
Apr 29 18:40:54 <DocScrutinizer05> zammy: then backup MyDocs
Apr 29 18:40:57 <DocScrutinizer05> to PC
Apr 29 18:41:04 <DocScrutinizer05> using USB mass storage mode
Apr 29 18:41:13 <zammy> and I won't be consulting you anymore
Apr 29 18:41:19 <zammy> so obsessive wtf
Apr 29 18:41:20 <Woody14619> Win7Mac, DocScrutinizer05: Do what now? :)
Apr 29 18:41:33 <DocScrutinizer05> Woody14619: eh?
Apr 29 18:41:35 <Win7Mac> count
Apr 29 18:41:36 <DocScrutinizer05> now?
Apr 29 18:41:42 <DocScrutinizer05> nothing _now_
Apr 29 18:41:48 <DocScrutinizer05> count referendum later
Apr 29 18:42:06 <DocScrutinizer05> in ~6h
Apr 29 18:42:54 <Woody14619> Ah... Yeah.  There's a menu item in admin interface.  "Compute Results of Vote".  Will allow that once the election has closed.
Apr 29 18:44:44 <DocScrutinizer05> yep, that's basically what I said above, and that either you or me will click on it later
Apr 29 18:45:18 <Win7Mac> isn't it in ~2h?
Apr 29 18:45:24 <zammy> DocScrutinizer05,  this the guide leaded me before http://www.nokioteca.net/blog/2010/05/eseguire-il-flashing-hard-reset-del-nokia-n900/
Apr 29 18:45:55 <zammy> procedure number 1 I followed
Apr 29 18:46:52 <sixwheeledbeast> 23:59 UTC so ~4hrs
Apr 29 18:47:04 <sixwheeledbeast> g2g, laters :)
Apr 29 18:47:19 <zammy> I have pressed u button connected the usb and then I have executed the flash .exe then another execution of another command line then nothing it restarted alone
Apr 29 18:47:48 <zammy> after a while
Apr 29 18:50:29 <DocScrutinizer05> Win7Mac: UTC: 18:50
Apr 29 18:50:44 <DocScrutinizer05> so it's in 5:10
Apr 29 18:51:26 <Win7Mac> yeah, correct.
Apr 29 18:51:56 <Win7Mac> can't wait...
Apr 29 18:55:32 <DocScrutinizer05> I hope for a clear majority voting for yes
Apr 29 19:04:00 <Sysaxed> has anybody tried running bittorrent sync on n900?
Apr 29 19:04:20 <Sysaxed> as far as I understand it does not need any dependencies
Apr 29 19:04:23 <Sysaxed> so should be fine
Apr 29 19:04:28 <Sysaxed> but I worry about cpu usage
Apr 29 19:10:44 <kerio> cpu usage?
Apr 29 19:10:46 <kerio> please
Apr 29 19:10:54 <kerio> the cpu usage is dwarfed by the battery usage
Apr 29 19:13:15 <Win7Mac> DocScrutinizer05: guess we're all hoping... probably have a last call in the referendum + news aggregator threads?
Apr 29 19:15:27 <Sysaxed> kerio: well, I did not understand you :)
Apr 29 19:15:40 <DocScrutinizer05> I think users are already annoyed by too many calls and mails and votes and stuff to follow that doesn't really interest them
Apr 29 19:15:47 <kerio> Sysaxed: data transfer sucks on the n900
Apr 29 19:15:49 <kerio> sucks battery, that is
Apr 29 19:16:48 <Sysaxed> yeah, but when it's already synced and no data transfer required, what is going to happen?
Apr 29 19:16:58 <Sysaxed> how often would it try to search for updates
Apr 29 19:17:00 <Sysaxed> and so on
Apr 29 19:25:17 <ecc3g> what does one mean by bittorrent sync?  just doing a hash check?  why would it need to do updates?
Apr 29 19:27:27 <ecc3g> oh... n/m something different than regular bittorrent...
Apr 29 19:30:05 <Sysaxed> ecc3g: yeah, it is something similar to dropbox
Apr 29 19:46:43 <kerio> not really
Apr 29 19:47:09 <kerio> it's an automatic rsync between devices
Apr 29 20:18:13 <n900-dk> guess it's to late for a vote token, right?
Apr 29 21:47:15 <DocScrutinizer05> n900-dk: nope
Apr 29 21:48:13 <DocScrutinizer05> if your garage email is correct, you might receive it even in time for referendum still
Apr 29 21:48:30 <DocScrutinizer05> if your garage email *been* correct
Apr 29 21:51:27 <r00t|home> you corrected a valid sentence into a gramatically incorrect incomprehensible one...
Apr 29 23:52:15 <Win7Mac_> so we'll see voting-results in ~10 mins? ::really curious::
Apr 30 00:03:44 <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.org/vote/votes.php?election_id=30
Apr 30 00:04:57 <DocScrutinizer05> one NO vote
Apr 30 00:05:16 <Win7Mac> no...
Apr 30 00:06:40 <DocScrutinizer05> 82 votes total if I counted correctly
Apr 30 00:07:32 <Win7Mac> thats rather poor...
Apr 30 00:07:40 <Woody14619> yup... to be fair, one of the 4 "no vote" votes was me, nuking a bad token.
Apr 30 00:07:41 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm yes
Apr 30 00:07:55 <Woody14619> Well, not super bad.  Half of last year's MCC vote.
Apr 30 00:08:15 <Woody14619> gotta go. :)  Have fun! :)
Apr 30 00:08:25 <DocScrutinizer05> well, "bad token" as in "who's HiFo?"
Apr 30 00:10:08 <Win7Mac> at least its a clear result and we can move on.
Apr 30 00:24:44 <ShadowJK> DocScrutinizer05; btw, if you think maemo/hifo is nightmare, I just attended AGM of my ISP. The board members outnumbered non-board members by a factor of 2. No previous info had been given about the changes to the rules the board wanted changed
Apr 30 00:25:06 <ShadowJK> etc :)
Apr 30 00:26:04 <ShadowJK> .. and we authorized the board to continue outsourcing stuff to companies owned by various board members ...
Apr 30 00:26:37 <ShadowJK> :)
Apr 30 00:32:47 <DocScrutinizer05> oh, nice
Apr 30 00:32:59 <DocScrutinizer05> :-D
Apr 30 00:47:52 <ShadowJK> also, the board suggested the existing rule limiting board membership to 6 consecutive years should be removed
Apr 30 00:49:48 <DocScrutinizer05> well, no such rule in maemo
Apr 30 00:56:58 * RST38h moos
Apr 30 00:58:44 <DocScrutinizer05> RST38h: *now* you show up. with a lame excuse why you weren't able to vote ;-P
Apr 30 01:12:08 <DocScrutinizer05> RST38h: in ~23h you get another chance :-D
Apr 30 01:49:24 <RST38h> Doc: I have no lame excuses. After all, I am a cow!
Apr 30 01:49:44 <RST38h> But, to be deadly serious, I see no reasonto vote any more =(
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