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May 11 04:35:32 <Wulfe> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
May 11 04:35:54 <Wulfe> idk how to fix that
May 11 04:36:07 <Wulfe> i cant install anything now
May 11 04:37:02 <Wulfe> extended info:  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
May 11 04:37:47 <Wulfe> if anyone becomes active and has an idea please enlighten
May 11 04:37:50 <Wulfe> thanks
May 11 04:40:10 <unclouded__> does the file exist?
May 11 04:42:40 <Wulfe> i have available-old but not available in that location
May 11 04:43:17 <Wulfe> this happenen after an atempt to install freeciv forced a reboot half way through
May 11 04:43:45 <Wulfe> it tried to recover the update then rebooted again
May 11 04:46:17 <unclouded> I would hope that apt-get update would rebuild that file, but it might be worth worrying about your file system first if file have been going missing
May 11 04:48:47 <Wulfe> i may have an idea, it shows freeciv as installed but is broken. going to try uninstalling and see if this repairs it.
May 11 04:50:39 <Wulfe> bah
May 11 04:50:44 <Wulfe> same result
May 11 04:51:56 <unclouded> is this on SD, or NAND?  would really be worth a fsck before you write to the fs any further
May 11 04:54:21 <Wulfe> sd, but nevermind i solved it. looks as if available-old is a backup so i used cp to make a new available and now its working again.
May 11 04:54:48 <Wulfe> thanks for helping
May 11 04:57:47 <Wulfe> yup i was able to succefully install another app
May 11 04:57:58 <Wulfe> thank god for backups
May 11 04:59:00 <Wulfe> still dont get why freeciv did that though.
May 11 04:59:19 <Wulfe> sucks to its a fun game
May 11 05:06:01 <Macer> hi
May 11 09:40:18 <DocScrutinizer05> moinmoin
May 11 09:43:55 <anthonie> @ docscrutinizer05; thank you! http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1342801#post1342801
May 11 09:51:39 <DocScrutinizer05> yw
May 11 09:53:20 <anthonie> well, it's not taken for granted!
May 11 10:22:42 <DocScrutinizer05> LOL @ >>Feedback: fremantle-feedback@maemo.org<<
May 11 10:23:02 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders which /dev/null *this* might point at
May 11 10:29:07 <DocScrutinizer05> >> fremantle-feedback: janne.p, soumya, marcell << (aliases)
May 11 10:30:32 <DocScrutinizer05> ext-janne.p.johansson at nokia.com
May 11 10:31:06 <DocScrutinizer05> I wonder how to clean up our mail aliases file, we have hundreds of those
May 11 10:55:25 <Pali> DocScrutinizer05: are some of these addresses still valid?
May 11 10:55:41 <DocScrutinizer05> who knows
May 11 10:55:45 <Pali> or every @nokia.com address is invalid?
May 11 10:56:11 <DocScrutinizer05> I already suggested some approach in maemo-admin channel
May 11 10:56:25 <DocScrutinizer05> I could as well post it here
May 11 10:56:44 <DocScrutinizer05> we should set up a "job" to send a mail to everybody in aliases, listing in a personalized mail body all the aliases she/he is member of (like grep jarmo aliases, or grep '^[^#][ a-z]*\:'  aliases |grep jarmo), **and check for mail bounces**. Ask everybody in that mail to please answer and state if they think the alias is still correct, if they have a better suggestion for an alias destination instead of their own email addr, and 
May 11 10:56:46 <DocScrutinizer05> particularly what the alias been meant for.
May 11 10:56:56 <DocScrutinizer05> in a second step of same operation send a list with all bounces and all mail aliases that nobody answered to, to all mail addr in aliases, and ask for comments. Some of the still active alias owners might know about meaning and status of other "dangling" aliases and maybe could suggest how to handle them or what they been used for and whom we should search for to point those aliases to
May 11 10:59:21 * DocScrutinizer05 remrks that there are almost hundreds of functional aliases, like feedback, alarm, security, younameit
May 11 11:16:46 <DocScrutinizer05> *sigh* disk warning on www
May 11 12:15:11 <DocScrutinizer05> GeneralAntilles: http://www.mwkn.net/2013/18/front.html, you might want to make sure 2013/19 isn't a 2nd copy of 17 ;-D
May 11 12:16:00 <DocScrutinizer05> GeneralAntilles: with a bit of luck you'll have meeting minutes to point to, tomorrow
May 11 12:16:11 <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st working on it atm
May 11 12:18:32 <DocScrutinizer05> GeneralAntilles: I think there's enough for a fine new MWKN issue: elections finished, handover from old to new MCC done (on Friday), mail aliases established (see meeting log of today), HFC established and started productive work, supervising BoD handling of bank accounts
May 11 14:07:49 <DocScrutinizer05> [admin announcement] we need to take down www.maemo.org for maintenance eventually, probably today later in the evening (CET), for 1..2h
May 11 14:08:26 <DocScrutinizer05> tlak.m.o and other VM will not be affected
May 11 14:09:04 <Win7Mac> bugs.maemo.org still redirects to the wiki...
May 11 14:09:57 <xes> Win7Mac: better a wiki than a bug ;-)
May 11 14:10:17 <xes> ..sorry, still WIP
May 11 14:11:06 <Win7Mac> ok, thanks
May 11 15:07:09 <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!
May 11 17:25:37 * DocScrutinizer05 frowns at infobot
May 11 17:26:02 <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!
May 11 17:39:43 <GeneralAntilles> Just read the council meeting logs
May 11 17:39:49 <GeneralAntilles> Hoo boy
May 11 17:54:33 <DocScrutinizer05> GeneralAntilles: mhmm
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May 11 21:53:18 <DocScrutinizer05> [admin announcement] we need to take down www.maemo.org for maintenance for 1..2h - since static.m.o is on same VM, you'll see rendering issues and massive slowdowns on wiki.m.o etc as well
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May 11 22:36:50 <ShadowJK_> freemangordon; "memory_sync_page: no page for 006b1000" proc_memory_sync: InValid address parameters 00667c10 70800"
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May 11 23:29:28 <Chiku|dc> hi is there any application for flachcode ?
May 11 23:29:33 <Chiku|dc> flashcode*
May 12 00:14:37 <woodong50-> ??
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