**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 17 03:00:00 2013
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 17 19:58:37 2013
May 17 20:08:42 <Pali> guys, what are you going to do with google cripled jabber accounts? google is going to cut connection between google's and jabber's worlds
May 17 20:08:51 <Pali> so it will be like facebook
May 17 20:10:48 <Pali> not possible to chat between @gmail and @jabber accounts
May 17 20:16:19 <Sc0rpius> when that happens, we'll see.
May 17 20:17:00 <Sc0rpius> I guess the new GTalk protocol will not be open
May 17 20:20:00 <Pali> Sc0rpius: you will be able to conenct to new GTalk protocol via XMPP
May 17 20:20:16 <Pali> but you will not be able to chat with non gmail contacts
May 17 20:24:17 <Sc0rpius> oh really?
May 17 20:24:41 <Sc0rpius> then we're fine :) I wonder how many people connect to Gtalk to chat to ther Jabber accounts?
May 17 20:24:48 <Sc0rpius> something like 0.056% of Gtalk users.
May 17 20:25:18 <Sc0rpius> actually I even didn't know that was possible.
May 17 20:30:04 <Pali> Sc0rpius: you really do not have any non gmail friends in your contact list?
May 17 20:33:24 <Sc0rpius> nope
May 17 20:33:27 <Sc0rpius> why would I?
May 17 20:33:41 <Sc0rpius> and I don't even know anybody that uses Jabber
May 17 20:34:20 <Sc0rpius> I only use 3 IMs: Skype, AIM and GTalk.  Everybody I know has one of those 3
May 17 20:57:42 <DocScrutinizer05> why would I have any gtalk contacts? why skype? I honestly don't need that stuff, since there's IRC, jabber, SIP VoIP...
May 17 20:59:52 <cehteh> i just have skype because its integrated on the n900 .. eventually i'll get rid of it
May 17 21:00:40 <cehteh> some time ago i set up my own jabber server, way better for IM, no one snooping my conversations there
May 17 21:35:02 <Pali> DocScrutinizer05: problem is that: google (til now) had real jabber server. so you from your own jabber server were able to write message to @gmail.com contact
May 17 21:35:24 <Pali> but now google decided to cut connection between google's jabber server and other jabber servers
May 17 21:35:38 <Sc0rpius> and why would anyone that's not running a business have a jabber server?
May 17 21:35:53 <Sc0rpius> and not just an account in gmail server?
May 17 21:36:11 <Pali> and why should have account on gmail server?
May 17 21:36:29 <Pali> if already have account on other jabber server??
May 17 21:38:16 <Sc0rpius> you already have an account in the gmail server
May 17 21:38:25 <Sc0rpius> you have a gmail address 
May 17 21:38:27 <Sc0rpius> convenience
May 17 21:39:06 <Sc0rpius> if I tell my wife "create an account in a jabber server so I can IM you during the day"
May 17 21:39:16 <Sc0rpius> will be the worst mistake I would ever make in my whole life
May 17 21:43:26 <Pali> and so I should tell to all my friends "to create account on gmail.com because I want to chat with us"?
May 17 21:43:34 <Pali> this is nonsense
May 17 21:44:51 <Sc0rpius> all your friends have already Gmail accounts
May 17 21:45:02 <Sc0rpius> who in this world doesn't have a gmail account?
May 17 21:45:21 <Sc0rpius> I don't know ANYBODY without a @gmail.com address.
May 17 21:45:37 <Win7Mac> you're lost...
May 17 21:47:55 <Sc0rpius> and if all your friends  have jabber accounts and you too then why do you need Google?
May 17 21:47:59 <Sc0rpius> just use your servers.
May 17 21:50:18 <Sc0rpius> I think Google was forced to do the call
May 17 21:50:34 <Sc0rpius> everybody is expecting GTalk to be something bigger and better than WhatsApp and Blackberry Messenger and all that shi
May 17 21:50:35 <Sc0rpius> shit
May 17 21:51:01 <Sc0rpius> and I don't think Google can do that without getting rid of Jabber and change the XMPP into something of their own
May 17 21:51:15 <Sc0rpius> like WhatsApp (that's also XMPP but compressed and encrypted)
May 17 21:51:49 <Sc0rpius> I'm wating for multimedia transfer, location sharing, contacts sharing, etc from GTalk from way too many time already
May 17 21:51:54 <Sc0rpius> s/wating/waiting
May 17 21:52:02 <Sc0rpius> too much
May 17 21:52:11 <Sc0rpius> and Google obviously is losing the IM war
May 17 21:52:21 <Sc0rpius> to WhatsApp, BBM, Line, Viber, etc.
May 17 22:03:12 <DocScrutinizer51> dang, I forgot to tell infobot about "dumped by google"
May 17 22:03:55 <DocScrutinizer51> watts up
May 17 22:05:39 <DocScrutinizer51> the battery monitor gadget for ebikes
May 17 22:21:57 <DocScrutinizer51> ~ping
May 17 22:21:57 <infobot> ~pong
May 17 22:22:32 <DocScrutinizer51> infobot: ping
May 17 22:22:32 <infobot> ~pong
May 17 22:27:31 <Win7Mac> bored?
May 17 23:30:37 <kerio> ~ping
May 17 23:30:37 <infobot> ~pong
May 17 23:30:42 <kerio> ~pong
May 17 23:30:42 <infobot> ~ping
May 17 23:30:45 <kerio> :D
May 17 23:30:52 <kerio> ~botsnack
May 17 23:30:52 <infobot> thanks, kerio
May 17 23:30:55 <kerio> yw
May 17 23:59:55 <DocScrutinizer05> not bored, just propagation delay of some 60s
May 18 00:00:25 <DocScrutinizer05> at my end, both pong came same time
May 18 00:02:21 <DocScrutinizer05> actually I had no
May 18 00:02:23 <DocScrutinizer05> [2013-05-18 00:22:32] <infobot> ~pong
May 18 00:02:35 <DocScrutinizer05> on my N900, but two
May 18 00:02:45 <DocScrutinizer05> [2013-05-18 00:22:52] <infobot> ~pong
May 18 00:04:05 <DocScrutinizer05> ~ding
May 18 00:04:05 <infobot> dong
May 18 00:04:19 <DocScrutinizer05> ~king
May 18 00:04:19 <infobot> i guess king is Dessimat0r
May 18 00:04:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ~kong
May 18 00:05:18 <DocScrutinizer05> ~factinfo king
May 18 00:05:18 <infobot> king -- created by Dessimat0r <Dessimat0r@public1-birk1-3-cust60.bagu.broadband.ntl.com> at Fri Jan 10 19:27:16 2003 (3780 days); it has been requested 7 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 59s ago.
May 18 00:06:04 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal king
May 18 00:06:04 <infobot> "king" is "Dessimat0r"
May 18 00:06:33 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, king is kong, or Dessimat0r
May 18 00:06:33 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: okay
May 18 00:06:38 <DocScrutinizer05> ~king
May 18 00:06:38 <infobot> [king] kong, or Dessimat0r
May 18 00:06:55 <DocScrutinizer05> ~factinfo king
May 18 00:06:55 <infobot> king -- created by Dessimat0r <Dessimat0r@public1-birk1-3-cust60.bagu.broadband.ntl.com> at Fri Jan 10 19:27:16 2003 (3780 days); last modified 22s ago  by DocScrutinizer05!~HaleBopp@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 8 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 17s ago.
May 18 00:07:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ~sing
May 18 00:07:25 <infobot> I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!
May 18 00:07:35 <DocScrutinizer05> ~song
May 18 00:07:35 <infobot> it has been said that song is what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl
May 18 00:08:27 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm a barbioe giiiirl, in a barbie wooorld
May 18 00:09:07 <DocScrutinizer05> ~song
May 18 00:09:07 <infobot> [song] what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl
May 18 00:09:31 <DocScrutinizer05> ~factinfo song
May 18 00:09:31 <infobot> song -- created by Templarian <n=Templari@ppp-69-214-5-27.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net> at Sun Jan 24 02:44:53 2010 (1209 days); it has been requested 6 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 24s ago.
May 18 00:31:28 <DocScrutinizer05> ~kong is ~king
May 18 00:31:28 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: okay
May 18 00:31:40 <DocScrutinizer05> ~dong
May 18 00:31:40 <infobot> ding
May 18 00:32:02 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pong
May 18 00:32:02 <infobot> ~ping
May 18 00:33:14 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, song is ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl
May 18 00:33:14 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
May 18 00:33:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ~song
May 18 00:33:25 <infobot> i heard song is ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl
May 18 00:33:52 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, song is <reply>~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl
May 18 00:33:52 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
May 18 00:33:54 <DocScrutinizer05> ~song
May 18 00:33:54 <infobot> ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl
May 18 00:34:03 <DocScrutinizer05> ~sing
May 18 00:34:03 <infobot> I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!
May 18 00:35:04 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, sing is <reply>~song, or "I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!"
May 18 00:35:04 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
May 18 00:35:08 <DocScrutinizer05> ~sing
May 18 00:35:08 <infobot> ~song, or "I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!"
May 18 00:45:29 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pong
May 18 00:45:29 <infobot> ~ping
May 18 00:45:36 <DocScrutinizer05> ~dong
May 18 00:45:36 <infobot> ding
May 18 00:45:44 <DocScrutinizer05> ~song
May 18 00:45:45 <infobot> ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl
May 18 00:45:54 <DocScrutinizer05> ~kong
May 18 00:45:54 <infobot> i guess kong is ~king
May 18 00:46:38 <DocScrutinizer05> infobot: no, kong is <reply>~king
May 18 00:46:39 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
May 18 00:46:42 <DocScrutinizer05> ~kong
May 18 00:46:42 <infobot> ~king
May 18 00:47:02 <jon_y> DocScrutinizer05: why are you having Seinfeldian conversation with a bot? :)
May 18 00:47:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ~wiki seinfeld
May 18 00:47:31 <infobot> At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Other uses}} {{Infobox television |show_name = Seinfeld |image = |genre = Sitcom |director = Art WolffTom CheronesAndy AckermanDavid Steinberg |runtime = 22 minutes |creator = Larry DavidJerry Seinfeld |starring = Jerry SeinfeldJulia Louis-DreyfusMichael RichardsJason Alexander |executive_producer = Larry David (seasons 1–7)Benjamin Scott (seasons 3–5)Howard WestGeorge ...
May 18 00:47:53 <jon_y> inane conversations :)
May 18 00:48:47 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm not having conversations, I'm checking/maintaining a database
May 18 00:49:08 <DocScrutinizer05> ~status
May 18 00:49:09 <infobot> Since Thu May 16 18:12:47 2013, there have been 23 modifications, 99 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 39 commands.  I have been awake for 1d 6h 36m 22s this session, and currently reference 119055 factoids.  I'm using about 24076 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 391.98/8.35 child 0/0
May 18 00:49:21 <jon_y> well it already sounds like it, carry on
May 18 00:49:24 <jon_y> :)
May 18 00:50:20 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm wased by today's private and hidden and public debates and arguments
May 18 00:50:29 <DocScrutinizer05> wasted even
May 18 00:51:11 <DocScrutinizer05> ~botsnack
May 18 00:51:11 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: :)
May 18 00:51:33 <DocScrutinizer05> cya
May 18 00:53:27 <DocScrutinizer05> when you wanna know details, see http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/
May 18 00:53:56 <DocScrutinizer05> and that reveals only 20%
May 18 01:11:09 <GeneralAntilles> DocScrutinizer05, deep breath. I feel deja vu reading that log.
May 18 01:11:24 <GeneralAntilles> Relax and cut yourself and other people some slack.
May 18 01:51:05 <dhbiker> hi there 
May 18 01:51:07 <dhbiker> anyone here ?
May 18 01:51:24 <dhbiker> i can't seem to get on Nokia's page for N900 image
May 18 01:51:28 <dhbiker> for flashing o.O
May 18 01:51:32 <dhbiker>  An error occurred while processing your request.
May 18 01:52:03 <dhbiker> http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php
May 18 01:52:08 <dhbiker> does it work for anyone ?
May 18 01:52:58 <nox-> ~skeiron
May 18 01:52:58 <infobot> from memory, skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/   http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143
May 18 01:54:03 <dhbiker> sweet
May 18 01:54:06 <dhbiker> tnx nox- 
May 18 01:54:15 <nox-> np
May 18 02:14:17 <dhbiker> mmm the sight of fresh flash :D
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