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May 23 04:32:18 <Apic> A splendid Pungenday.
May 23 07:48:20 <Apic> How was this Android Emulator called?
May 23 07:48:24 <Apic> Nitdroid, right?
May 23 08:00:03 <rikanee> Apic: not an android emulator, it's an android port.
May 23 08:00:45 <Apic> ktx.
May 23 08:00:46 <Apic> +n
May 23 08:01:27 <jaska> there was some alien dalvik thing.. but i dont think that went anywhere
May 23 08:01:33 <Apic> ic
May 23 11:59:25 <DocScrutinizer05> jaska: seems it went jolla
May 23 11:59:37 <DocScrutinizer05> aka sailfish
May 23 12:00:37 <DocScrutinizer05> would be interesting to check if it's a foss component or a blob, on sailfish
May 23 12:37:43 <vi__> in c#, what does this mean:
May 23 12:37:44 <vi__> USBDeviceList usbDevices = null;
May 23 12:37:50 <vi__> =null?
May 23 12:41:22 <chem|st> resetting the list?
May 23 13:52:50 <samn900> hey all
May 23 13:53:18 <samn900> which is the debian password about easydeb?
May 23 15:36:47 <chem|st> GeneralAntilles: do you mind including talk.mo changes in next mwkn in some way?!
May 23 15:36:58 <GeneralAntilles> Link?
May 23 15:37:12 <GeneralAntilles> If there's something you notice that should be included, feel free to tweet @mwkn.
May 23 15:37:49 <samn900> which is the default password of debian on easydeb?
May 23 15:37:58 <chem|st> GeneralAntilles: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90196 I do not use twitter yet... I may change that
May 23 15:39:39 <chem|st> samn900: can't you just invoke a root shell?
May 23 15:39:42 <GeneralAntilles> Done. https://twitter.com/GeneralAntilles/status/337593627532476417
May 23 15:40:21 <samn900> do you mean changing passwd by chroot?
May 23 15:41:52 <samn900> you are right
May 23 15:42:06 <samn900> done
May 23 15:42:45 <chem|st> hehe
May 23 15:43:22 <chem|st> GeneralAntilles: +1
May 23 15:43:37 <GeneralAntilles> Hmm, 2000 tweets
May 23 16:29:43 <n900-dk> why this?: "W: Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages  503 Service Unavailable"
May 23 16:30:09 <n900-dk> something wrong with rmo?
May 23 16:33:34 <n900-dk> guess it was just a hiccup - apt-get update works now...
May 23 16:37:07 <Trieste> Hi, is there a way to send HID events to a computer over wi-fi with maemo?
May 23 16:37:55 <Trieste> (I'm going to give a presentation and until now I expected to use BlueMaemo, but I just found that I've lost my USB BT dongle)
May 23 16:51:31 <lartza_> Trieste: synergy might do the trick, haven't tried it for a while
May 23 16:51:52 <lartza_> http://wiki.maemo.org/Synergy
May 23 18:08:06 <sixwheeledbeast> ~flashing
May 23 18:08:06 <infobot> methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
May 23 18:17:47 <DocScrutinizer05> n900-dk: we had an endogenous load spike
May 23 18:18:37 <DocScrutinizer05> though an hour later than your problem occurred
May 23 18:18:50 <Wizzup> Trieste: yes, there is
May 23 18:19:28 <Wizzup> Trieste: you can use uinput-mapper to forward the n900 keyb to your laptop over wifi: http://hetgrotebos.org/wiki/uinput-mapper
May 23 18:19:37 <DocScrutinizer05> \o/
May 23 18:20:25 <DocScrutinizer05> we already got a pkg in extras-devel for it?
May 23 18:21:00 <Wizzup> no, I don't think so, I didn't really plan an initial release either, guess I should do that soon...
May 23 18:59:19 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer51: I'll have a look at packaging it. I am mostly familiar with ebuilds, but .deb should be doable ;-)
May 23 19:02:41 <kerio> isn't it a python script?
May 23 19:03:00 <DocScrutinizer05> well, for maemo extras(-*) repos you need to upload source to autobuilder
May 23 19:03:20 <kerio> packaging for stuff you don't need to compile is easy
May 23 19:03:26 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed
May 23 19:04:42 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel
May 23 19:04:45 <DocScrutinizer05> should help
May 23 19:05:25 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel#PyPackager
May 23 19:05:48 <Wizzup> Ah, cool
May 23 19:08:05 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.maemo.org/Py2deb actually
May 23 19:12:39 <DocScrutinizer05> Wizzup: you'll need a garage account with permissions to upload to autobuilder
May 23 19:13:27 <Wizzup> yeah, I'd need to test locally first
May 23 19:13:32 <Wizzup> thanks for the links
May 23 19:14:04 <DocScrutinizer05> while the process to approve such accounts is still under investigation since it's messed up after migration, you can ping me to hard force extras/autobuilder approval, once you applied
May 23 19:15:20 <DocScrutinizer05> I could try to do that approval the hard way
May 23 19:17:21 <Wizzup> okay.
May 23 19:44:46 <louisdk> How many of you still use your N900 as your main phone today and are some of you big fans of qwerty keyboards? :)
May 23 19:46:22 <Wizzup> louisdk: me
May 23 19:49:04 <sardini> louisdk, me, but I can live without a  keyboard, if all the rest is ok. And for now nothing is better then the n900 experience, 
May 23 19:58:03 <sixwheeledbeast> ^^agreed
May 23 20:00:11 <DocScrutinizer05> nah, from my cold dead haaaaands
May 23 20:00:13 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
May 23 20:05:41 <Wizzup> I think I own three n900s atm, one has a broken usb which I have to fix, that used to be my main one, replaced with a new (spare) one, and we're using one as spacephone for the amsterdam hackerspace
May 23 20:05:59 <Wizzup> I really hope some case hack (keyboard) will come for the jolla phones
May 23 20:08:25 <louisdk> Well. I'm a keyboard fan too. My I think the main reason is the badly sw kb on N9. Android and iPhone has much better sw kbs. However I hope for a hardware case for the Jolla phone too. 
May 23 20:08:37 <sq-one> louisdk: I still use mine as well
May 23 20:13:21 <DocScrutinizer05> Wizzup: I'd really hope jolla would *finally* hire me to have an eye on that critical circuit detail of exposing all the right signals to the clip-on
May 23 20:13:56 <DocScrutinizer05> after all that's my genuine competence to take care about exactly such things
May 23 20:14:18 <Wizzup> Would be sweet :-) I've been very close to preordering a jolla phone but then got distracted
May 23 20:14:26 <Wizzup> Should do it soon..
May 23 20:16:29 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't think I would earn much with preordering, except a t-shirt, a stupid name printing on the back cover maybe, and of course a lot of thrill about my money I paid and if I ever will "get it back"
May 23 20:18:03 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer05: right, but it's a way of showing support isn't it?
May 23 20:18:19 <DocScrutinizer05> for my first N900 I paid ~100 bucks extra for 2 or three weeks I got the device earlier than when I had ordered via Amazon
May 23 20:19:53 <DocScrutinizer05> I feel bad with supporting some mystery
May 23 20:21:06 <DocScrutinizer05> there's nothing but rumours about nature of that "other half"
May 23 20:21:39 <DocScrutinizer05> not a single hard fact, except maybe that it seems to be a clip-on available in different colors
May 23 20:22:58 <Wizzup> I'd guess there's be some kind of bus to communicate with the device
May 23 20:23:04 <Wizzup> Otherwise they probably wouldn't have gone for it
May 23 20:32:35 <louisdk> I also think there's to much mystery to make me consider pre ordering 
May 23 21:01:53 <GeneralAntilles> If in doubt, just get the no-cost option.
May 23 21:02:33 <n900-dk> what dbus signal will make omp start playing last song?
May 23 21:18:53 <DocScrutinizer51> n900-dk: destination is mafw, not omp
May 23 21:19:47 <DocScrutinizer51> or maybe I'm wrong hee
May 23 21:19:52 <DocScrutinizer51> ask MohammadAG 
May 23 21:20:31 <merlin1991> n900-dk: you can only launch omp with a specific song
May 23 21:20:32 <zammy> I don't get updates on debian on easydeb
May 23 21:20:36 <zammy> XD
May 23 21:20:38 <merlin1991> to play the last song you have to target mafw
May 23 21:21:26 <n900-dk> merlin1991: how can I launch omp with a specific song?
May 23 21:22:06 <merlin1991> it has some dbus method, it's the generic maemo dbus method for giving a prgram a file
May 23 21:22:12 <merlin1991> lemme see if I can find it
May 23 21:24:04 <merlin1991> hm where the fuck where the sources?
May 23 21:24:50 <arcean> merlin1991: https://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer/mediaplayer
May 23 21:26:13 <merlin1991> n900-dk: mime_open is the method
May 23 21:26:51 <merlin1991> n900-dk: see http://wiki.maemo.org/Personal_Menu_tips_and_tricks#Opening_File_in_Media_Player
May 23 21:26:57 <merlin1991> omp implements the same interface
May 23 21:29:30 <n900-dk> ok, thanks
May 23 21:33:30 <merlin1991> http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Application_Development/MIME_type_mapping section "Using hildon-mime-open" also adds a bit information
May 23 21:43:27 <n900-dk> well, actually dbus signal works with omp after changing omp to default media player
May 23 21:51:26 <Sc0rpius> merlin1991, promoting to extras-testing doesn't work since the migration, does it?
May 23 21:51:43 <merlin1991> along the lines
May 23 21:51:57 <Sc0rpius> :)
May 23 21:55:27 <Wizzup> well, I finished the ebuild ... now for .deb ;-)
May 23 23:04:27 <DocScrutinizer05> Sc0rpius: might have changed recently, since we were able to restore huge parts of that notorious repligard mysql table
May 23 23:04:58 <DocScrutinizer05> Sc0rpius: there might still some cronjob be missing
May 23 23:05:45 <DocScrutinizer05> since *somebody* disabled ~97% of cronjobs and now nobody knows which need to get re-enabled or even fixed prior to that
May 24 01:56:03 <DocScrutinizer05> [techstaff notice] wiki VM gone south with xen VIF error
May 24 01:56:36 <DocScrutinizer05> I'll not reboot it until one of our experts had an eye on it
May 24 01:56:57 <DocScrutinizer05> so prepare for some 4..8h downtime
May 24 01:57:52 <DocScrutinizer05> we might even need to reboot blade-b to recover
May 24 02:00:35 <Sc0rpius> we thought you were the expert
May 24 02:00:38 <Sc0rpius> :P
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