**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 05 02:59:59 2013 Sep 05 03:06:34 DocScrutinizer05, ;-) Sep 05 03:06:59 like i said killing the chip will be last option. Sep 05 03:07:47 sca or pda/dpa first. if it fails? then only i attack it physically. Sep 05 03:10:14 DocScrutinizer05: I was recently approached by someone who believes he can break SHA-2 and pretty much all present-used encryption by simply simulating a quantum computer; he just needs funding <.< Sep 05 03:10:24 >.> Sep 05 03:11:10 (later on I saw him asking why GPUs can't just simulate ASICs to perform equally well) Sep 05 03:21:32 robbiethe1st hi Sep 05 03:21:36 sup Sep 05 03:22:07 ~seen robbiethe1st Sep 05 03:22:11 robbiethe1st is currently on #maemo (3h 27m 31s), last said: 'when Autodesk and Catia offer a Linux version'. Sep 05 03:26:34 " (later on I saw him asking why GPUs can't just simulate ASICs to perform equally well)" looks like i am worse than that, because the who is helping me told me you need 1 sem min to learn to design your first sca board. Sep 05 03:27:04 " Basically, you're trying to jump from "total noob" to "PhD-level research project" overnight" :\ Sep 05 03:27:09 :-p Sep 05 03:31:29 Luke-Jr, SHA-2 can be broken, anything related to encryption can be broken and will be broken eventually. it just depends how much will power is involved. and secondly unless those device are anti-dpa and anti-sca certified they can be snooped. http://www.newae.com/openadc does it. and he presented recently in BH 2013 US and Dubai. Sep 05 03:31:59 … Sep 05 03:32:01 look out for the live demo by the dude who actually did perform a SCA live Sep 05 03:33:24 anyway i need to first learn how to make my first http://www.newae.com/openadc type prototype to sniff the keys. i am day dreaming i guess, back to bookworm mode Sep 05 03:34:24 quackquack Sep 05 03:34:48 HtheB Sep 05 03:34:50 sorry, i just find it funny to say quackquack :P Sep 05 03:35:17 heheh Sep 05 03:35:30 no problem. i will duck as usual hehehehe Sep 05 03:35:56 :D Sep 05 03:36:15 HtheB, when i told about this to pali he called and labeled me an insane guy. xD Sep 05 03:36:28 so i will duck again HtheB Sep 05 03:36:30 :D Sep 05 03:36:53 as long as its not duck, as in: bend over Sep 05 03:37:34 :P Sep 05 03:40:06 quack quack :-p Sep 05 03:43:54 haha Sep 05 03:44:39 quackquack Sep 05 05:36:08 so like Sep 05 05:36:27 connecting to fb with conversations doesnt fetch the contacts to your contact list anymore? Sep 05 05:36:32 i dont see any of them Sep 05 05:36:59 :-/ Sep 05 05:48:18 wtf Sep 05 05:48:33 i remember adding the fb acct as adding your contacts to the n900 Sep 05 05:50:20 maybe it is because i have exchange syncing? Sep 05 07:10:35 hm Sep 05 08:33:06 Can anyone advice me what is the software on the screenshot ? http://www.fonearena.com/blog//wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Sygic_on_Nokia_N900_Maemo.jpg?99eae0 Sep 05 08:36:36 XATRIX: it is maybe called Sygic? Sep 05 08:37:05 yes :P Sep 05 08:37:41 Sygic Mobile Maps Sep 05 08:38:02 they no longer offer it for Maemo Sep 05 08:38:04 Yea, it is Sep 05 08:38:18 I found it on PirateBay torrents Sep 05 08:38:22 XATRIX: next time read the URL before asking ;) the link contains "Sygic on Nokia N900" Sep 05 08:38:31 :) Sep 05 08:38:34 Yea, my fault Sep 05 08:38:45 XATRIX: and yes, apparently there is a cracked version. But I would advise against it. Sep 05 08:38:53 especially as you likely don't get any map updates for it Sep 05 08:39:01 and the cracked version seems from 2010 Sep 05 08:39:15 it looks cool though... Sep 05 08:39:35 Yea, i'd like to test it a bit Sep 05 08:39:36 for personal use, I still am somewhat stuck with MoNav Sep 05 08:39:48 The native maemo maps is a bit stranfe Sep 05 08:39:57 /strange Sep 05 08:40:01 MoNav is OpenStreetMap based and works pretty wel;l Sep 05 08:40:03 but no 3D view Sep 05 08:40:09 it doesn't recalculate route if i go another road Sep 05 08:40:19 yes, but has a quick reachable recalculate button Sep 05 08:40:25 so that part alone doesn't annoy me yet Sep 05 08:40:29 where is it ? Sep 05 08:40:36 oh wait, or did Monav recalculate? I forgot Sep 05 08:40:39 it works fine for me though Sep 05 08:40:43 MoNav is somewhere in the apt repos Sep 05 08:40:53 has a strange user interface, that one has to admit Sep 05 08:41:07 No no, i'm talking about the recalc button for Nokai Maps Sep 05 08:41:10 but given the OSM maps are great for where i live (around Zürich), that is ok Sep 05 08:41:15 oh, I don't use Nokia Maps :P Sep 05 08:41:17 I use MoNav Sep 05 08:41:22 :) Sep 05 08:41:31 I don't even remember why I don't use Nokia Maps Sep 05 08:41:35 I hated it, just forgot why Sep 05 08:42:08 but yes, there is no good navigation for N900... Sep 05 08:42:16 this Sygic would be promising if it still existed Sep 05 08:42:36 the best there are is these OpenStreetMaps based applications... anything else gets no updates if you can still get it at all Sep 05 08:42:46 Yea Sep 05 08:43:00 and for me MoNav was the only OpenStreetMap based one that doesn't crash all the time and actually routes properly :P Sep 05 08:43:03 As long as i know Sygic also can operate openstreetmaps Sep 05 08:43:09 but, that one lacks proper navigation mode Sep 05 08:43:11 Sygic can? Sep 05 08:43:30 also, note that OSM is bad in some areas, good in others Sep 05 08:43:40 it seems to beat my Garmin navigation data on my car navigation system in Switzerland Sep 05 08:43:48 but, bought the thing in Germany, they just have bad Switzerland data Sep 05 08:44:06 but in the end... despite me working for them, Google Maps is just what works best Sep 05 08:44:17 but not on N900 :( Sep 05 08:44:38 I live in Ukraine, and Gramin is not a good solution here :) Sep 05 08:44:42 hehe Sep 05 08:44:48 if Garmin is already bad in Switzerland... Sep 05 08:44:51 Maybe Navitel , or CityGuide Sep 05 08:44:56 I don't even want to know what they do in Ukraine then :) Sep 05 08:45:09 and OpenStreetMap... does that work well in Ukraine? Sep 05 08:45:13 never was there Sep 05 08:45:16 So so... :) Sep 05 08:45:18 hehe Sep 05 08:45:25 worked well for me around Frankfurt and now around Zürich Sep 05 08:45:31 I wouldn't recommend you to travel to Ukraine anyway :) Sep 05 08:45:37 and was actually fastest at marking changes to the roads Sep 05 08:45:46 or even avoiding permanent construction sites (HOW I HATE THESE IN FRANKFURT) Sep 05 08:45:53 :)))) Sep 05 08:46:00 they tend to remove roads from OSM (or mark them blocked) then they're under construction for months :P Sep 05 08:46:08 EU is good for navigation :) Sep 05 08:46:14 sort of :P Sep 05 08:46:22 I can't say the same for past soviet :) Sep 05 08:46:50 and in Switzerland... Garmin ALWAYS routes me through Zürich city. I HATE THE CITY. Red lights, bicycles, jams everywhere. Sep 05 08:46:50 (well, I hate it for driving through) Sep 05 08:47:01 while Google Maps prefers the highways, AS IT SHOULD BE ;) Sep 05 08:47:45 but yes, Ukraine driving... I didn't even know you can have good navigation there, given the state of the road can be... surprising Sep 05 08:47:53 my wife told me (she's from the Ukraine, near Donetsk) Sep 05 08:48:26 probably for Ukraine every single map sucks, you maybe want to use two systems and compare the routes :) Sep 05 08:48:59 like, I suppose OSM is good at the changing stuff, but bad when outside major cities Sep 05 08:50:39 and I suppose the commercially available maps are good for outside cities, but inside a city, they tend to map the roads as they should be, and not as they actually are Sep 05 08:50:43 (at least that's how it is in Frankfurt) Sep 05 09:28:05 divVerent: "MoNav client" or "MoNav routing daemon" ? Sep 05 09:31:24 can someone please tell me why adding fb to your im accts doesnt seem to be pulling contacts? Sep 05 09:34:16 XATRIX: probably both Sep 05 09:37:35 grrrrr Sep 05 09:37:39 i dont get it Sep 05 09:38:03 when i did this last time all my fb contacts synced to the n900 Sep 05 09:38:10 is that a thing of the past now? Sep 05 09:50:03 divVerent: don't know, it shows me maps packages dialog Sep 05 09:50:04 automatic unsolicited syncing of all contacts? sounds like robbery, not like a feature you'd want Sep 05 09:50:09 and nothing i can do with it Sep 05 09:50:13 wold map Sep 05 09:50:47 dang, I hope I'm never even one of the contacts in a contact list of somebody who's using such crap Sep 05 09:52:05 lol Sep 05 09:52:14 no DocScrutinizer05 fb contacts Sep 05 09:52:23 akin to gtalk contact Sep 05 09:52:41 i remember just connexting to fb xmpp would grab them Sep 05 09:52:45 connecting Sep 05 09:52:46 it's just bad enough when gmail/google gets to know about my mails I send to those poor pals who thing gmail is a great thing, and about their mails to me. Sep 05 09:53:06 my problem is Sep 05 09:53:12 connecting to fb to chat Sep 05 09:53:18 i have no contacts Sep 05 09:53:21 your problem is fb Sep 05 09:53:26 nor a way to see if theyre online Sep 05 09:53:34 refuse to reply unencrypted mails :) Sep 05 09:53:37 it used to work Sep 05 09:53:49 i would connect to fb chat Sep 05 09:53:57 maemo would grab all my fb contacts Sep 05 09:53:59 done Sep 05 09:54:05 it no longer does Sep 05 09:54:14 maybe fb broke their API Sep 05 09:54:23 Macer: BS Sep 05 09:54:24 probably Sep 05 09:54:38 DocScrutinizer05: why on earth would i bs about that? Sep 05 09:54:44 maemo *never* automatically imported contacts Sep 05 09:54:52 yes it did Sep 05 09:55:01 just like it imported gtalk contacts Sep 05 09:55:11 how the hell are you supposed to chat? Sep 05 09:55:15 without a list? Sep 05 09:55:18 lol Sep 05 09:55:34 suuure, just for your *SIMcard* it needs a user command via menu, makes a lot of sense Sep 05 09:55:51 uhm Sep 05 09:55:53 k? Sep 05 09:56:24 DocScrutinizer05: you need a list from an im service Sep 05 09:56:28 maybe your IM client displays the contacts you created on that IM network Sep 05 09:56:46 that's NOT "importing" though Sep 05 09:56:59 conversations? lol Sep 05 09:57:06 * Macer facepalms Sep 05 09:57:49 meh, whatever, I don't use any of those services, so maybe I actually never noticed Sep 05 09:59:11 I'd just consider it a pretty sucking broken design when something gets automatically imported and stored to my device without me even getting a notice about that, not to ask for a way to stop it if it's not what I want Sep 05 10:01:25 maybe by creating a IM account you define an external (IMAP?) addrbook resource that gets merged into those contacts roasters or what they're called, so it displays the fb contacts as if they were local ones Sep 05 10:02:25 that's however not exactly "importing" the contacts Sep 05 10:03:37 IMAP? :( Sep 05 10:03:39 rather "merging" them with those from your local addrbook Sep 05 10:03:41 POP3 forever Sep 05 10:04:13 never heard of pop3 based addrbook or calendar resources Sep 05 10:04:26 rsync baed :) Sep 05 10:05:01 eh? that's a tool, not a protocol Sep 05 10:05:30 ssh+rsync based to synchronize Sep 05 10:05:55 never heard of that Sep 05 10:06:01 DocScrutinizer05: ok. semantics? really? Sep 05 10:06:09 fine. why wont they sync then? Sep 05 10:06:11 :-P Sep 05 10:06:34 nfc Sep 05 10:09:22 gee Sep 05 10:09:25 thanks Sep 05 10:09:55 see.. just added skype Sep 05 10:10:02 and contacts appear Sep 05 10:10:08 added gtalk Sep 05 10:10:14 contacts appear Sep 05 10:10:43 maybe if i add fb as jabber Sep 05 10:13:00 nope. so guess it is fb Sep 05 10:13:08 fb and maemo no longr get along Sep 05 10:13:57 fb is telling you get the fb phone Sep 05 10:14:24 the latest phone you need, all your fb friends already have it :) Sep 05 10:14:57 I wonder if fb is big enough to start an unethical social experiment without getting called out on Sep 05 10:15:53 lol Sep 05 10:16:16 more like telling me: your phone is ancient and conversations is no longer supported Sep 05 10:16:19 hehehe Sep 05 10:16:26 if they're big enough, no one will notice Sep 05 10:16:36 i can try pidgen Sep 05 10:16:38 since they are "everyone" Sep 05 10:16:47 but then i lose integration :-/ Sep 05 10:16:52 people still use facebook these days? :) Sep 05 10:17:15 heh Sep 05 10:17:33 well. everybody i know does. especially my friends from the service Sep 05 10:17:51 we all went our ways and are scattered across the US Sep 05 10:17:56 (and elsewhere) Sep 05 10:18:07 oh, most people I know use it too, I just don't talk to them over facebook, so I can actually chat to them when I see them Sep 05 10:18:16 Facebook sucks away all the possibilities for a fun conversation Sep 05 10:18:21 not using atmospheric reflection to communicate? :) Sep 05 10:18:40 jon_y: not anymore ;) Sep 05 10:18:46 but hf sucked :-P Sep 05 10:19:00 or that reflection off the moon Sep 05 10:19:12 we used to use encrypted hf @ 2400bps Sep 05 10:19:20 though it only works if you have a giant antenna and visible moon at night Sep 05 10:19:20 no fun at all Sep 05 10:20:00 well. i guess i go lame and try pidgin Sep 05 10:20:06 and lose my integration Sep 05 10:20:08 sigh Sep 05 10:25:53 ok. guess fb is broken lol Sep 05 10:26:03 their jabber server isnt sending a list Sep 05 10:28:38 XATRIX: read some documentation about that Sep 05 10:28:45 XATRIX: MoNav needs some setup Sep 05 10:29:07 http://monav.openstreetmap.de/ Sep 05 10:29:12 XATRIX: you need this Sep 05 10:36:30 ok thanks Sep 05 10:40:31 divVerent: look, i have to setup a server for monav somewhere on PC, and later connect to it using N900 ? Sep 05 10:53:23 DocScrutinizer51: http://www.reddit.com/r/Neo900 :D Sep 05 10:57:22 or DocScrutinizer05... which one is what? :x Sep 05 11:00:19 doesn't matter much Sep 05 11:00:25 XATRIX: no Sep 05 11:00:25 works locally for me Sep 05 11:00:25 just too long ago since I ever set it up Sep 05 11:00:26 thanks :-) Sep 05 11:01:09 in my setup, the visible maps come from the internet, the routing is stored locally and has to be updated manually sometimes (should do that BTW, but need to read how these are generated) Sep 05 11:01:16 dos1: alas again they don't get the point that Neo900 is a *complete* device, not just a swap moBo Sep 05 11:01:39 DocScrutinizer05: isn't that essentially the same, given almost everything is on the mainboard? Sep 05 11:02:01 divVerent: dafaq? you don't need a case, dide? Sep 05 11:02:07 dude* Sep 05 11:02:20 DocScrutinizer05: case is not very much, functionally. I just need SOME case... Sep 05 11:02:28 and a N900 in a totally different case would to me still be a N900 Sep 05 11:02:35 DocScrutinizer05: I'll write few comments there Sep 05 11:02:36 uhuh Sep 05 11:02:39 I BTW hate ONE thing about the N900 case... Sep 05 11:02:49 when the keyboard is slid out, the volume buttons are hard to reach Sep 05 11:02:51 but that's all Sep 05 11:02:54 I hate a LOT of things about N900 case Sep 05 11:03:05 but it's best we could get Sep 05 11:03:25 not many phones with proper hw kbd around nowadays Sep 05 11:03:25 I eventually have to figure out whether I can fix the volume issue in software Sep 05 11:03:37 because for video playing, I would like both volume and seeking accessible - and seeking is on the arrow keys Sep 05 11:03:43 divVerent: that's damn easy Sep 05 11:03:59 yes, probably just need a daemon to support the XF86 volume keys... Sep 05 11:04:02 and map some key combo to them Sep 05 11:04:13 either that, or a patch to the video player Sep 05 11:04:30 I am already using OpenMediaPlayer anyway Sep 05 11:04:33 I'd guess it's a matter of kbd mapping to place F6/7(?) on e.g. shift-alt-PLUS/MINUS Sep 05 11:04:44 F6/7? Sep 05 11:04:53 so you say OMP already supports volume setting via keyboard Sep 05 11:04:54 that's what Vol+/- are Sep 05 11:04:57 and one just has to map it Sep 05 11:05:00 OH nice :) Sep 05 11:05:12 maybe 7/8 Sep 05 11:05:16 I use an edited keymap anyway... so thanks Sep 05 11:05:18 I forgot Sep 05 11:05:18 this helps Sep 05 11:05:20 rest probably is a job for xev Sep 05 11:05:31 sure Sep 05 11:06:12 hm... alt-arrow sends same keys in tty as arrow keys... so they can't be THAT useful :) Sep 05 11:06:37 indeed, also does nothing in the note editor Sep 05 11:06:44 so probably alt-arrow it'll be :) Sep 05 11:07:10 still, it probably would have been better if the volume buttons were on the display part, not the keyboard/mobo part of the case Sep 05 11:07:40 but, it's my only gripe with the case. I like it otherwise - the N900 fell down a few times already, and the case did a good job at protecting the display Sep 05 11:08:02 I like how the display is a bit sunk in compared to the outer "ring" of the case Sep 05 11:08:38 (or should I say, I dislike the fact that this is not so on the Nexus 4) Sep 05 11:17:10 Thanks, DocScrutinizer05, works now. Cannot decide yet whether I want to use updown or leftright arrows for volume... maybe I will find a use for the other one Sep 05 11:17:56 yw, glad it worked :-) Sep 05 11:19:18 dos1: keep me updated please! Sep 05 11:19:50 maybe we make it to /. Sep 05 11:19:53 ;-P Sep 05 11:20:04 DocScrutinizer05: wonder if there is a good place where I can post my keyboard mapping BTW Sep 05 11:20:20 umm, that prolly would be tmo Sep 05 11:20:36 it seems to be the perfect german layout for US N900 devices :) i.e. with all ASCII supported, and all German/French/... characters via dead keys Sep 05 11:20:38 tales attachments when they aren't too large Sep 05 11:20:58 DocScrutinizer05: ok ;) haven't seen ./ story yet, just few comments Sep 05 11:21:04 t stands for? Sep 05 11:21:09 ah, talk Sep 05 11:21:17 ~tmo Sep 05 11:21:18 tmo is, like, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. Sep 05 11:21:29 yes, probably... will post a diff and the full file there soon Sep 05 11:21:42 have ONE issue with it though... wonder if you know this issue Sep 05 11:21:52 in HamsterFiler, and only there, I cannot enter [] into the file name rename box Sep 05 11:21:57 search for a thrad about kbd mappings, I bet there's AT LEAST one Sep 05 11:22:03 which I mapped to shift-alt-hj Sep 05 11:22:16 it enters round parentheses then, which are on alt-hj Sep 05 11:22:28 other shift-alt mappings seem to work there though Sep 05 11:22:48 so do you happen to know if HamsterFiler uses anything "weird" as text entry box? Sep 05 11:23:00 other such entry boxes that look the same in Maemo don't have the issue Sep 05 11:23:14 http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Subsystems#Keyboard Sep 05 11:23:26 no, not that issue :) Sep 05 11:23:34 then maybe Qt? Sep 05 11:23:40 but doesn't everything use Qt? Sep 05 11:23:47 then other text entry boxes would have the same problem Sep 05 11:23:59 I heard Qt using its own kbd "driver" that's totally weird Sep 05 11:24:18 yes, just why should it depend on which application owns the entry box Sep 05 11:24:38 Qt is "compiled in2 to the app Sep 05 11:25:12 absolute BS in *all* Qt, with *all* sensors and input devices Sep 05 11:26:01 since it's cross-platform, it doesn't make good use of X11 specifics and other platform "proprietary" stuff Sep 05 11:26:08 indeed, can reproduce the issue also in other fields of HamsterFiler Sep 05 11:26:30 do you happen to know another good file manager? Sep 05 11:26:43 the only thing I don't want in the stock one is hiding file name extensions of mp3s, and relying on ID3 tags Sep 05 11:26:55 btw your weird char didn't reach my PC Konversation IRC clinet as well: just a square Sep 05 11:27:04 huh?\ Sep 05 11:27:07 it was an [ and a ] Sep 05 11:27:11 ooh Sep 05 11:27:17 I put them on alt-() Sep 05 11:27:20 concatenated Sep 05 11:27:23 yes Sep 05 11:27:42 looks like one char here Sep 05 11:28:14 much like any other non-printable char Sep 05 11:29:04 ~listkeys vi_ Sep 05 11:29:06 Factoid search of 'vi_' by key returned no results. Sep 05 11:29:09 ~listkeys vi Sep 05 11:29:10 Factoid search of 'vi' by key (14 of 1075): 128-bit video cards ;; anybody know of a new virus where the extension ;; baldvin ;; cmd: melvin (.*?) ;; cmd: purl: devil (.*?) ;; country virgin islands (us) ;; device3dfx ;; elivia ;; fbview ;; ftp logview ;; giving him op whiles he ;; gravity ;; gview ;; having sex. Sep 05 11:29:18 dafaq! Sep 05 11:30:01 ~listvalues mapping Sep 05 11:30:03 Factoid search of 'mapping' by value (19 of 70): gmt ;; hemi ;; i dunno wtf md5 is, but a hashmap ;; just wondering if there ;; karnaugh mapping ;; keyremap ;; mapserver ;; microsoft mouse ;; mmu ;; realtime ;; rfc 1148 ;; rfc 1327 ;; rfc 1449 ;; rfc 1495 ;; rfc 1664 ;; rfc 2156 ;; rfc 2157 ;; rfc 2163 ;; rfc 796. Sep 05 11:30:13 *sigh* Sep 05 11:30:19 ~kbd Sep 05 11:30:19 Keytable files and keyboard utilities. URL: ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/linux/utils/kbd/ Sep 05 11:30:31 ~vikbd Sep 05 11:31:13 vi__ is a loser, when it comes to factoids ;-) Sep 05 11:35:34 weird, HamsterFiler's edit box is just a QTextEdit Sep 05 11:35:41 and some other programs use the same Qt libs but don't have the issue Sep 05 11:35:47 e.g. taskpoach Sep 05 11:35:59 *QLineEdit Sep 05 11:36:39 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9490453/ctrlalt-key-modifier-behavior-with-qt-on-windows-when-a-textbox-has-focus - haha, sounds... similar Sep 05 11:37:02 I mean, ctrl-alt sure shouldn't cause anything upper case Sep 05 11:43:23 the Qt widget alone doesn't already define all properies, it's the .. err.. properties of the widget which do Sep 05 11:43:46 other Qt apps may use same widget but with different properties Sep 05 11:44:12 hello. does anyone here have experience booting the n900 over usb using flasher-3.5 and a minimal initrd image and a kernel? if so, which kernel and modules successfully boot? i have tried the '2.6.37' kernel and modules provided by 'nin101' which produce segfaults on my n900. the only completed boot for me so far is with a 2.6.37 kernel paired with 2.6.28 modules, most of which don't work... Sep 05 11:44:13 ...but at least the boot completes. Sep 05 11:44:19 which is the whole mess in this Qt kbd interface Sep 05 11:44:44 DocScrutinizer05: you are right, but HamsterFiler uses just defaults Sep 05 11:44:50 cybertheque: see: Sep 05 11:44:53 ~rescueos Sep 05 11:44:53 methinks rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ Sep 05 11:44:59 that is where i started... Sep 05 11:45:09 ooh, you already mentioned that Sep 05 11:45:10 segfaults Sep 05 11:45:59 anyway, i didn't think there really was a 2.6.37 kernel for the n900 from what i read online Sep 05 11:46:14 sorry to hear it doesn't work for you, but it does for others, and it's supposed to be completely independant of device config, so I only see few sources of problem Sep 05 11:46:53 perhaps hardware revision differences. has anyone booted a 2.6.28 kernel? Sep 05 11:46:58 no Sep 05 11:47:17 you most likely should use stock 2-6-28 Sep 05 11:47:30 tried that directly from the repository Sep 05 11:47:42 no display, machine reboots Sep 05 11:47:42 there are no known hw-diffs that would make rescueOS fail Sep 05 11:48:59 afaik nin101 provides all that's needed to boot up into rescueOS on his server Sep 05 11:49:24 incl kernel and modules which of course need to match Sep 05 11:50:08 I suggest to reread the howto Sep 05 11:50:17 ok, does anyone know whereabouts of any bootable diagnostics from nokia? Sep 05 11:51:04 the device does have hardware issues (touch screen failed) which may be a prob in module loadiing i suppose Sep 05 11:51:53 yet the stock o/s boots fine from nand Sep 05 11:52:02 just would like to boot the stock kernel over the wire Sep 05 11:56:07 also, i am using the n900 mainboard as an embedded device controller in other projects - i would like to connect with others who are working at the bare metal. Sep 05 12:00:46 wait a little, eventually somebody may notice your inquiry Sep 05 12:01:04 kk, thanks Sep 05 12:01:04 not many n900 users are using it as controller board Sep 05 12:01:27 eventually NIN101 will drop by here Sep 05 12:01:32 cool Sep 05 12:01:40 maybe ask him directly about the initrd stuff Sep 05 12:02:02 more interested to hear where the 2.6.37 kernel came from Sep 05 12:02:18 I don't know about that kernel Sep 05 12:02:23 his kernel Sep 05 12:02:52 if he wrote drivers he doesn't admit it on the website Sep 05 12:03:03 that's insane, I told him to stay on stock kernel so users can load modules from original system Sep 05 12:03:13 interesting Sep 05 12:03:28 seems he ignored that advice Sep 05 12:04:21 check out my old version at maemo.cloud-7.de, it might still work with stock kernel, maybe that meets your needs Sep 05 12:04:32 will do right now, thanks Sep 05 12:04:36 yw Sep 05 12:12:38 sorry having trouble finding it - lots of '404's in /NIN101_N900_rescue_os/ Sep 05 12:15:37 NIN101_N900_rescue_os/nin101.uni.cx/N900 shows 0.5.1 versions, all 404 Sep 05 15:39:10 not sure if this is the right channel to ask, but I have a nokia n9 that is driving me crazy Sep 05 15:39:31 I want to install wazapp, I downloaded the deb file from wazapp website Sep 05 15:40:00 do I need the terminal to install it using dpkg, or is there another method?? Sep 05 15:40:54 double click the deb from afile manager Sep 05 15:40:59 double tap* Sep 05 15:41:15 you need to enable the setting to allow non-ovi apps, can't remember exactly where is Sep 05 15:41:25 I get dependencies error :( Sep 05 15:41:49 already enabled that :( Sep 05 15:42:01 how to solve that dependency error! Sep 05 15:42:03 in that case it helps to try installing it from terminal Sep 05 15:42:15 to see the full error Sep 05 15:42:18 to know what package I am missing, Sep 05 15:42:29 But I can't start dev mode :( Sep 05 15:42:51 It gives me error : can't install (installation package not found) Sep 05 15:43:24 How to solve that??! Sep 05 15:43:40 what firmware do you have? Sep 05 15:43:56 did you use the reset option from the phone? Sep 05 15:43:57 How to know?? Sep 05 15:44:03 no Sep 05 15:44:08 *#0000#?? Sep 05 15:44:20 it's in Settings, about Sep 05 15:44:40