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Nov 19 05:05:32 <ludens> just flashed my n900 for the first time in many years
Nov 19 05:05:54 <ludens> should i get fapman or just stick to apt-get? does fapman work?
Nov 19 07:59:44 <sixwheeledbeast> ludens: use neither
Nov 19 07:59:51 <sixwheeledbeast> ~fapman
Nov 19 07:59:51 <infobot> fapman is probably Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU). It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. in short, it's deprecated
Nov 19 09:05:07 <eddyb_> oh ffs... I think my USB connector is starting to fail
Nov 19 09:30:06 <Gatta_Negra> good mornng
Nov 19 09:30:10 <Gatta_Negra> god morning
Nov 19 10:34:58 <eddyb_> the force I have to put on the connector for it to work... it could easily snap :(
Nov 19 10:37:02 <MMN-o> eddyb_: Open it up and put some hot-glue on it
Nov 19 10:37:30 <MMN-o> At least stabilises it somewhat from pushing too hard :)
Nov 19 10:40:49 <eddyb_> MMN-o: screws are already in bad shape from the last time I opened it (to replace the display flex)
Nov 19 10:41:14 <eddyb_> MMN-o: but thanks anyway, I'll take a look at it whenever I get access to fine enough screwdrivers
Nov 19 10:48:34 <eddyb_> MMN-o: oh fuck, this means I can't charge it :(
Nov 19 10:52:34 <vi__> MCE...has been reversed???
Nov 19 10:52:47 <vi__> Someone buy jonwil a pizza!
Nov 19 13:22:47 <sixwheeledbeast> I wouldn't use glue to repair the uUSB.
Nov 19 14:16:31 <DocScrutinizer05> MMN-o: please don't suggest to use glue on USB
Nov 19 14:17:43 <DocScrutinizer05> ~usbfix
Nov 19 14:17:43 <infobot> usbfix is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)
Nov 19 14:17:58 <DocScrutinizer05> hot glue even more useless
Nov 19 14:18:47 <vi__> You have to solder the plug down to the ground plane.
Nov 19 14:18:54 <DocScrutinizer05> yes
Nov 19 14:19:00 <DocScrutinizer05> only working fix
Nov 19 14:19:10 <vi__> like they should have done at the factory.
Nov 19 14:19:13 <vi__> nokia noobs.
Nov 19 14:20:12 <DocScrutinizer05> well, they failed at thinking about it. In justice for Nokia I have to note that this has to be done manually
Nov 19 14:21:13 <vi__> so reversed MCE.
Nov 19 14:21:20 <vi__> What is the implications of this?
Nov 19 14:35:40 <DocScrutinizer05> implications?
Nov 19 14:36:39 <DocScrutinizer05> I think it's fine
Nov 19 14:37:22 <DocScrutinizer05> and I know why I say that since I helped quite a bit with that RE
Nov 19 14:37:58 <DocScrutinizer05> so I know how we got there, and I know about the quality of the work
Nov 19 15:21:28 <anYc> I assume he meant benefits
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Nov 19 17:24:30 <deepy> can I sync my calendar with Google calendar?
Nov 19 18:35:26 <aapo_rantalainen> freemangordon; You invited me to discuss something related python2.7 and autobuilder.
Nov 19 18:35:38 <freemangordon_> aapo_rantalainen: hi!
Nov 19 18:35:56 <freemangordon_> aapo_rantalainen: there is some versioning problem with python 2.7
Nov 19 18:36:19 <freemangordon_> for some reason the package interface *thinks* that maemo3 version is highest
Nov 19 18:36:32 <freemangordon_> and purges newer versions
Nov 19 18:37:04 <freemangordon_> the obvious solution is to delete all version before 5, but I wanted you to agree on that
Nov 19 18:37:09 <freemangordon_> *versions
Nov 19 18:37:31 <freemangordon_> and to upload the source in the autobuiler to test if that fixes the problem
Nov 19 18:38:07 <freemangordon_> aapo_rantalainen: and please, disable all tests when uploading to autobuilder, this is where the build hangs
Nov 19 18:38:38 <freemangordon_> the last build hanged on "/scratchbox/tools/bin/make run_profile_task"
Nov 19 18:39:13 <aapo_rantalainen> freemangordon. I know the problem is about test/profiling and so on. I have tried to disable everything.
Nov 19 18:39:53 <aapo_rantalainen> Actually I pushed -maemo8 with dropped run_profile_task
Nov 19 18:40:54 <freemangordon> aapo_rantalainen: ok, but what about old packages, are you ok for me to leave only maemo5 in the repos?
Nov 19 18:41:09 <aapo_rantalainen> That's fine.
Nov 19 18:41:44 <freemangordon> ok, I'll do it, hopefully before maemo8 got build, otherwise it will be cleaned in the same way as -maemo6
Nov 19 18:42:06 <aapo_rantalainen> It is so eager to clean the repo?
Nov 19 18:42:41 <freemangordon> it is a cron job :)
Nov 19 18:43:38 <aapo_rantalainen> Is it using version number or some timestamp to decise which is highest?
Nov 19 18:44:12 <freemangordon> it uses version number, but epoch and strange chars confuse it
Nov 19 18:47:11 <aapo_rantalainen> I'm afraid I have lost debian/changelog which even has that -maemo3 entry. I didn't even push it to git: https://gitorious.org/python27-maemo5/python27-maemo5/source/python2.7-2.7.3~rc2/debian/changelog
Nov 19 18:49:44 <freemangordon> ok, removed all -maem3 packages, lets see
Nov 19 18:50:13 <aapo_rantalainen> Great, thanks. Yes, let see what happens then with -maemo8.
Nov 19 18:50:16 <freemangordon> hmm, seems autobuilder is stuck :(
Nov 19 18:50:39 <aapo_rantalainen> Is it again my package?
Nov 19 18:50:46 <freemangordon> going to ckech
Nov 19 18:50:50 <freemangordon> *check
Nov 19 18:51:32 <aapo_rantalainen> I have tested locally it wont run tests or profiling, but then there could be still some autogenerated setups which works once, but not on second time.
Nov 19 18:58:53 <freemangordon> aapo_rantalainen: it was not your package
Nov 19 18:59:51 <freemangordon> maemo8 is building now
Nov 19 19:00:38 <aapo_rantalainen> freemangordon: good. If python2.7 get stuck you can kill it. I will ask situation on friday if it is not built.
Nov 19 19:01:16 <freemangordon> aapo_rantalainen: ok
Nov 19 19:05:07 <freemangordon> aapo_rantalainen: on the side note - http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1387550&postcount=95
Nov 19 19:05:46 <freemangordon> ah, you already thanked :)
Nov 19 21:42:52 <DocScrutinizer05> bot disaster recovery
Nov 19 21:44:22 <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!
Nov 20 02:20:02 <ds_shadof> how i can tell my n900 to not rotate screen?
Nov 20 02:46:18 <DocScrutinizer05> ~jrtools
Nov 20 02:46:19 <infobot> somebody said jrtools was http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
Nov 20 02:47:19 <DocScrutinizer05> sth like gconftool -s -bool ui-may-rotate false
Nov 20 02:49:44 * DocScrutinizer05 evetually should copy his ~user/bin/* to maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/home/user/bin or maemo5/usr/local/bin
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