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Dec 18 14:39:54 <lexik> <hate> It's talk.*maemo*.org, GTFO with Jolla. There are now more threads about Jolla than about Maemo. Please. More Maemo, less Jolla. Thanks! </hate>
Dec 18 14:42:09 <Wizzup> If the ads pay for the server upkeep :) 
Dec 18 14:44:18 <sixwheeledbeast> lexik: I was thinking something similar but at least TMO is not tumbleweed.
Dec 18 14:44:33 <jaska> troll.maemo.org
Dec 18 14:44:56 <jaska> Host troll.maemo.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
Dec 18 14:45:00 <jaska> should make it a cname.
Dec 18 14:48:03 <merlin1991> Wizzup: which ads? :D
Dec 18 14:48:59 <Wizzup> merlin1991: I guess there may be none :P
Dec 18 14:49:03 <Wizzup> It was just a guess, hehe
Dec 18 15:22:09 <peetah> talk.maemo.org is taken over by jolla ! now I know what N8XX users could have felt like when N900 was released
Dec 18 15:23:39 <jaska> yeah, i was a n810 user for quite a while after n900
Dec 18 15:23:44 <jaska> was released.
Dec 18 15:49:49 <merlin1991> a quick peek for cssu-testing users: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#Tmaemo9
Dec 18 15:57:39 <anYc> \o/
Dec 18 16:07:17 <ShadowJK> it's annoying there isn't a "new posts, but not harmattan/jolla"
Dec 18 16:11:32 <merlin1991> ShadowJK: don't you worry, when the cssu update goes out there'll be lots of reports about bricks again because some people run modified startup scripts
Dec 18 16:13:17 * ShadowJK was briefly considering joimimg those
Dec 18 16:13:35 <ShadowJK> with ext4 optfs
Dec 18 16:13:53 <ShadowJK> since my ext3 optfs is getting blown away 3 times per week now :D
Dec 18 16:13:57 <merlin1991> that's even possible without modifying the startup scripts afaik
Dec 18 16:15:16 <merlin1991> and even if you do modify the scripts
Dec 18 16:15:20 <merlin1991> you just have todo it right
Dec 18 16:15:31 <merlin1991> then your changes stay in place when the package updates
Dec 18 16:16:49 <ShadowJK> Oh, is that (without modifying) why optfs has now different mount options compared to stock?
Dec 18 16:17:09 <ShadowJK> stock has noatime,commit=1 atleast, maybe nodiratime too
Dec 18 16:18:07 <merlin1991> have a look into /etc/default/mount-opts
Dec 18 16:20:54 <lexik> merlin1991: ad. cssu testing: awesome! just I guess it's 'clock-ui' not 'cock-ui' :D
Dec 18 16:21:10 <merlin1991> damn
Dec 18 16:21:25 <merlin1991> freudian slip? I dunno :D
Dec 18 17:16:18 <freemangordon_> merlin1991: a new update is comming? :P
Dec 18 17:16:36 <merlin1991> yeah I just finished the mp
Dec 18 17:16:42 <freemangordon_> great
Dec 18 17:16:47 <merlin1991> it's going into test-testing as fast as I can upload :)
Dec 18 17:18:26 <merlin1991> the update folder has 353M
Dec 18 17:18:34 <freemangordon> omg
Dec 18 17:19:09 <freemangordon> merlin1991: are you sure you did not forget -I.git when built qt?
Dec 18 17:19:48 <merlin1991> I have "build-cssu" in my scratchbox which always does -I.git :)
Dec 18 17:19:58 <freemangordon> :D
Dec 18 17:20:42 <merlin1991> it's 177M source, and 133M debug stuff
Dec 18 19:09:17 <merlin1991> anyone in here who has cssu-testing install and is not yet using -thumb, all my usual testers jumped onto the thumb bandwagon so I need new helping hands
Dec 18 19:10:49 <SAiF> sorry
Dec 18 19:12:53 <zamn900> no hope from here
Dec 18 20:16:56 <freemangordon> merlin1991: seems everybody has jumped to -thumb :(
Dec 18 20:19:56 <kerio> good
Dec 18 20:20:09 <freemangordon> kerio: no, it is not
Dec 18 20:20:12 <kerio> is it time to push the button then?
Dec 18 20:20:21 <freemangordon> kerio: next time
Dec 18 20:20:25 <freemangordon> not now
Dec 18 20:21:11 * freemangordon guessed that kerio meant the merge thumb->testing
Dec 18 20:21:24 <kerio> no, i meant the stealth forced nitdroid install
Dec 18 20:21:35 <freemangordon> oh, now is the time :)
Dec 18 20:22:00 <freemangordon> you know who malmsteen is?
Dec 18 20:22:12 <kerio> the guitarist?
Dec 18 20:22:14 <freemangordon> yep
Dec 18 20:22:39 <kerio> just by fame
Dec 18 20:22:50 <kerio> never heard anything from him i think
Dec 18 20:23:01 <freemangordon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC0DpZX0BzU
Dec 18 20:29:01 <hbib> is the new cssu-testing version already in the repos?
Dec 18 20:34:16 <hbib> merlin1991: i use cssu-testing and could help with testing
Dec 18 20:34:37 <hbib> but i have no idea, what i should do to "test" it ;)
Dec 18 20:34:57 <hbib> is it enough to just use it and report bugs?
Dec 18 20:37:32 <freemangordon> hbib: you should enable the testing-testing repo
Dec 18 20:37:52 <freemangordon> and yes, reporting installation bugs is enough
Dec 18 20:41:25 <hbib> where is the "testing-testing" (funny name :D) repo?
Dec 18 20:43:44 <merlin1991> hbib: one sec
Dec 18 20:44:13 <merlin1991> hbib: install this: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/cssu/testing-testing-enabler_0.1_all.deb it adds the repo to ham
Dec 18 20:44:28 <merlin1991> then do an update and report if anything breaks within the next few days
Dec 18 20:44:47 <merlin1991> if nothing breaks on your device and possibly others I'll release the update into the wild
Dec 18 20:44:56 <merlin1991> [21:44:13] <merlin1991> hbib: install this: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/cssu/testing-testing-enabler_0.1_all.deb it adds the repo to ham
Dec 18 20:44:56 <merlin1991> [21:44:28] <merlin1991> then do an update and report if anything breaks within the next few days
Dec 18 20:47:05 <hbib1> thanks! i will report my experiences!
Dec 18 21:07:03 <kerio> after you've done the reporting, try cssu-thumb too!
Dec 18 21:10:33 <hbib1> i didn't try thumb yet, because i am a little afraid, that it will be slower ...
Dec 18 21:14:14 <Sicelo> hbib1: it is actually reported to be faster (don't use it either)
Dec 18 21:17:23 <merlin1991> ~thumb
Dec 18 21:17:24 <infobot> from memory, cssu-thumb is <DocScrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb
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