**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 16 02:59:59 2014 Mar 16 13:51:12 Agge, Lynx-z et al: i actually found the main flashing article (on maemo wiki) very useful.. did the entire procedure a couple of times yesterday just to get the hang of it. i guess the hardest part was finding the correct firmware; however there are md5 checksussums, DHT hashes and filenames available for that part. keeping mirrors online to support legacy is _hard_. better make sure required metadata (checksums and filenames) are avilable everywhere than ... Mar 16 13:51:18 ... keeping a certain mirror online forever Mar 16 13:51:33 that same argument goes for the flasher software too i guess Mar 16 13:52:17 yeah fond the same thing when I flashed my n900 about a year ago Mar 16 13:53:16 has something changed or has microb always been a massive memory hog and brought the system almost to a complete halt when browsing almost any website? Mar 16 13:57:12 Agge: i did not however feel i got the hang of it until reading it all through a couple of times; but as mentioned earlier in the channel that's probably inevitable since "flashing maemo devices using computers" is a pretty general topic. if you really want to make an effort rewriting the flashing guides i would suggest you focus on N900 and N900 only Mar 16 13:57:40 or, rather, the actual devices you have in front of you and could test with when writing the docs. Mar 16 13:57:48 ofcorse. I dont have access to any of the other ones so I couldent test it on them Mar 16 13:59:01 oh and the article im referring to is this one https://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_Flasher-3.5 Mar 16 14:03:29 that one looks less confused then https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware Mar 16 14:04:10 yeah i think the problem with the article you linked is that it tries to deliver an updated account for flashing "all" modern maemo devices Mar 16 15:19:51 it's more a problem of PC side than Nxxx Maemo NIT side Mar 16 15:20:23 and of course a problem of internet, with tis changing URLs and nom-stable sites Mar 16 15:20:31 its* Mar 16 15:22:08 and we *frequently* seen noobs editing that ~flasjing article to include their own unrelated experience they generalized. Like "make sure you don't use black USB cables" or whatever Mar 16 15:22:43 or "count to 4 and then press the enter key..." Mar 16 15:23:02 or "works on 3rd try" etc pp Mar 16 15:25:02 "you must not hold the 'U' key, this is false info" - which obviously is BS since for *N900* it's not mandatory to hold 'U' key but still helps, while for N8x0 it *is* mandatory Mar 16 15:26:08 there's a pretty good reason for every single detail in that tutorial Mar 16 15:27:49 it's quite awkward formatted and structured, admittedly Mar 16 17:10:46 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 17 02:59:58 2014