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Mar 19 08:19:55 <Maxdamantus> Hmm .. I wonder if anyone's attached more SD card ports to a phone before.
Mar 19 08:20:07 <Maxdamantus> apparently SD is designed to support 30 cards on one bus.
Mar 19 08:20:22 <Maxdamantus> should just be a matter of software support.
Mar 19 08:20:46 <Maxdamantus> and maybe power usage.
Mar 19 13:05:31 <DocScrutinizer05> Maxdamantus: interesting. Any pointers to docs?
Mar 19 13:06:15 <DocScrutinizer05> power usage is the least problem
Mar 19 13:07:25 <DocScrutinizer05> the bandwidth of the MMC bus is a bottleneck that may eventually defeat the purpose of having multiple cards on one bus, though
Mar 19 13:07:54 <Maxdamantus> I think that would mostly just mean you wouldn't get a greater bandwidth from using multiple cards.
Mar 19 13:07:57 <Maxdamantus> just more space.
Mar 19 13:08:04 <DocScrutinizer05> e.g. I'm not sure a RAID on MMC bus would be any faster, e.g. for swap
Mar 19 13:09:48 <Maxdamantus> https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/pls/simplified_specs/
Mar 19 13:10:01 <Maxdamantus> I think some relevant parts are missing from the simplified specs.
Mar 19 13:10:10 <DocScrutinizer05> OTOH when it's really just a question of driver sw, I already see how we could try adapters in a usual uSD slot, to attach a multi-uSD cluster
Mar 19 13:10:16 <Maxdamantus> 3.5 Bus Topology: This section is a blank in the Simplified Specification
Mar 19 13:10:36 <Maxdamantus> but if you look at the next section, it talks about commands being sent to one or all cards.
Mar 19 13:10:47 <DocScrutinizer05> \o/
Mar 19 13:11:36 <Maxdamantus> I imagine Linux would already support multiple cards.
Mar 19 13:12:05 <Maxdamantus> might be able to look at the code quickly.
Mar 19 13:12:30 <Maxdamantus> eMMC is also meant to support multiple cards on the same bus.
Mar 19 13:12:37 <Maxdamantus> but it was only intended to support up to 3.
Mar 19 13:12:51 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry I got no spare time to invest a in-depth investigation on that topic right now. When you can come up with further details or info, I'd appreciate a lot and will try to onclude considerations regarding that
Mar 19 13:12:56 <Maxdamantus> I think the intentions would only really be limited by bandwidth.
Mar 19 13:13:36 <DocScrutinizer05> include*
Mar 19 13:37:20 <Maxdamantus> well, as far as physical connectivity goes, the "ring topology" is on page 18 (PDF page) of https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/pls/simplified_specs/Part_1_UHS-II_Simplified_Addendum_Ver1.01_Final_131108.pdf
Mar 19 13:37:32 <Maxdamantus> the "hub topology" seems to require a separate device.
Mar 19 13:39:27 <Maxdamantus> which I suspect is like an ethernet switch .. probably wouldn't be worth the effort if you were considering it on the Neo900.
Mar 19 13:39:45 <zGrr> moin :)
Mar 19 14:12:14 <ShadowJK> N8x0 had a sort of switch/mux
Mar 19 14:15:18 <Maxdamantus> on what?
Mar 19 14:22:48 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway I hate this prohibition https://www.sdcard.org/join/benefits/
Mar 19 14:24:50 <ShadowJK> on sd
Mar 19 14:25:23 <Maxdamantus> between the SD card and the eMMC or something?
Mar 19 14:25:43 <ShadowJK> iirc
Mar 19 14:27:55 <Maxdamantus> you'd need another one to handle multiple cards that way.
Mar 19 14:30:51 <Maxdamantus> both the (active) hub and (passive) ring adapter seem like difficult things to search for, even if people have made them.
Mar 19 14:31:33 <ShadowJK> well N800 has 2 SD card slots, N810 has emmc and a miniSD slot
Mar 19 14:31:45 <Maxdamantus> Oh, right.
Mar 19 21:33:25 <DocScrutinizer05> SSsssSSShhhhHHHHhhhhhhhhhsSHHHHssshhhhhhh
Mar 19 21:35:15 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.thearkansasproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/tumbleweed-1024x768.jpg
Mar 19 21:37:37 <DocScrutinizer05> or rather http://anewdomain.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Tumbleweed-in-Monument-Valley.jpg ?
Mar 19 21:42:13 <DocScrutinizer05> or http://plissken.free.fr/Covers/Q/Quiet Earth Front.jpg
Mar 19 21:42:39 <DocScrutinizer05> http://plissken.free.fr/Covers/Q/Quiet%20Earth%20Front.jpg
Mar 19 23:53:53 <bencoh> :-)
Mar 20 00:39:38 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: see
Mar 20 00:39:44 <DocScrutinizer05> ~quiet earth
Mar 20 00:39:45 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, quiet earth is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2hnfTqQKO0
Mar 20 02:22:09 <int_ua> what's the possible values for gconftool -s /apps/modest/accounts/__/retrieve and where the f*** is this option in GUI?
Mar 20 02:25:17 <int_ua> IIRC it was there when I bought N900
Mar 20 02:29:29 <int_ua> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53855
Mar 20 02:29:39 <int_ua> leaving now
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