**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 29 03:00:00 2014 Mar 29 03:06:23 hello anyone around? Mar 29 03:07:56 around what? Mar 29 03:08:53 was curious if anyone was active here Mar 29 03:09:15 lots people leave irc on and go do other stuff Mar 29 03:09:45 * Maxdamantus does that. Mar 29 03:09:54 but I'm here now. Mar 29 03:10:12 was curious if there is a way to scroll up in busybox on maemo5 on nokia n900 Mar 29 03:10:33 in the default terminal? Mar 29 03:10:40 yeah Mar 29 03:10:49 you should be able to scroll by dragging Mar 29 03:11:01 you might need to click the cursor icon in the bottom left to toggle it. Mar 29 03:11:26 (in one mode, dragging selects text, in the other, it scrolls) Mar 29 03:11:54 hmm damn. your right thanks. Mar 29 03:12:21 wish I could do a shift+page up as thats what I am used to in bash on linux boxes Mar 29 03:12:55 was going to start a thread on maemo.org talk but decided to check here first. Mar 29 03:13:39 I usually use it to ssh into my home computer and attach to a tmux session, so scrolling is done using f13-[ then using up/down/pgup/pgdown Mar 29 03:16:55 havent toyed with tmux Mar 29 03:17:43 havent done much of anything with linux for years except basic use. starting to get back into linux though and programming Mar 29 03:18:47 having fun with bluetooth on the n900 and my debian box. can send stuff from n900 to pc but n900 doesnt want to receive files Mar 29 03:19:19 setting the my deb box and n900 for debug Mar 29 03:20:20 * Maxdamantus has only used the BT to act as a bridge between his computer and his PS3 controller. Mar 29 03:20:39 * Maxdamantus should probably just get a USB BT dongle. Mar 29 03:21:08 bluetooth can be nice but a bit finicky. obexftp is nice for transferring files when it works. Mar 29 03:22:10 sometimes have to repair devices but not much else. Mar 29 03:27:21 well thanks for tip have a good night or what it is where you are Mar 29 11:59:45 uh. Mar 29 12:00:05 my dad bought an iphone 5 recently Mar 29 12:00:18 this thing needs wifi and simcard to run >.< Mar 29 12:00:37 and one soul Mar 29 12:00:42 of course, not normal simcard Mar 29 12:00:47 nanosim! Mar 29 12:00:56 yeah I think you can carefully cut a bigger card into one Mar 29 12:01:06 my dad don't want to Mar 29 12:01:21 then I guess he needs to pay for one Mar 29 12:01:22 :) Mar 29 12:01:24 yeah Mar 29 12:01:27 25PLN Mar 29 12:02:38 5.9940368 Euros / 8.2424 U.S. dollars :P Mar 29 12:03:33 when i turn on my n900 for "first" time (when i take off battery :P), i only have to enter date Mar 29 12:03:35 oh wait Mar 29 12:03:50 i dont have to, because it's already there. i just need to click "save" Mar 29 12:04:03 should get it from the operator anyway Mar 29 12:04:33 the date/time chooser thingy is so abhorrent it's a waste of time messing with it Mar 29 12:10:51 that UI was supposed to bgecome UI for everythig Mar 29 12:11:10 but they ran out of time :) Mar 29 12:44:44 I dare to say: date/time picker slotmachine is the most idiotic idea I ever ran into Mar 29 12:45:32 Ashley`: raplce your bupbat and you don't need to worry about setting new date & time at all, after swapping battery Mar 29 12:45:36 ~bupbat Mar 29 12:45:36 somebody said bupbat was use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 Mar 29 12:47:18 joga: "13:04:03 should get it from the operator anyway "\ Mar 29 12:47:29 that's what i meant by " i dont have to, because it's already there." Mar 29 12:47:56 13:45:32 Ashley`: raplce your bupbat and you don't need to worry about setting new date & time at all, after swapping battery Mar 29 12:48:08 isn't there a way to just disable that dialog? Mar 29 12:48:54 my phone works without that bupbat thing fine :v Mar 29 12:51:44 there probably is actually a way to disable/skip this dialog. I haven't managed to find the time looking into it though. Should be somewhere in initscripts or .xsession Mar 29 13:30:14 aooohja. Mar 29 13:30:22 eh sry Mar 29 13:44:13 ((works without that bupbat thing fine)) mine usually does too, except for the little annoyance that the date&time picker dialog is faster than the time telegram from my carrier, and the dialog doesn't notice when in background the system time gets set Mar 29 13:45:50 often it annoys me so much that I rather simply reboot when date&time dialog pops up, on second boot the time is set correctly Mar 29 14:53:15 my carrier does not send time info Mar 29 14:53:37 i just switch batteries fast enough for it to not reset Mar 29 16:00:33 I just noticed that a promoted a package way long time ago and it never reached extras Mar 29 16:00:36 :( Mar 29 16:13:10 which package? Mar 29 16:14:01 yappari Mar 29 16:14:15 it should have 1.1.44 in Extras free armel Mar 29 16:14:19 http://maemo.org/packages/view/yappari/ Mar 29 16:40:07 Ahahaha Mar 29 16:40:24 Google finally broke SD card access. Mar 29 16:53:01 ? Mar 29 18:24:56 firmware Mar 29 18:26:02 Hi is there a mirror of the N900 firmware? Mar 29 18:26:32 Looks like that Nokia turned of the Server :( Mar 29 18:47:15 ~emmc Mar 29 18:47:15 well, emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Mar 29 18:47:25 ~rootfs Mar 29 18:47:26 rootfs: the content of the storage volume mounted under /, on NAND mtd5 partition. Also called "the system", since it's all the files forming the linux core system (except the kernel itself). Reflash rootfs from COMBINED (see ~flashing). Also see ~bootloop Mar 29 18:47:34 ~flashing Mar 29 18:47:36 extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Mar 29 18:48:13 Nokius: you can get the emmc from above; for rootfs download it from mrcrab.net Mar 29 18:49:53 thedead1440: Thanks :D Mar 29 18:50:00 np Mar 29 20:15:37 thedead1440: still alive? Mar 29 20:16:19 judging by my detached-from-reality level I'm 4h ahead of my time Mar 29 20:17:06 thedead1440: when you wanna quit SB maintenance, please send an official mail, to board, council, community Mar 29 20:17:11 repositories are working? Mar 29 20:17:17 or more exactly, cron jobs ? Mar 29 20:17:18 should Mar 29 20:17:43 which f****ng cron jobs? Mar 29 20:17:57 the ones that promote packages, upload packages from builder to extras/devel, etc. Mar 29 20:18:21 ooooooooh, you talk about server side?!? Mar 29 20:18:28 yeah Mar 29 20:18:29 ask CHEMIST Mar 29 20:18:33 okay Mar 29 20:18:40 I'm out of tht loop Mar 29 20:19:20 I'm THE ASSHOLE because I took care about stuff for 15 months Mar 29 20:20:05 now I can'T find words to tell you how *F*E*D* *U*P* I am with maemo Mar 29 20:21:03 hehe Mar 29 20:21:29 what about the Neo900 project? are you still with it? Mar 29 20:24:25 uuh, what ? Mar 29 20:25:03 certs expire in two weeks, I mailed HiFo and council about it. Me: "I'm not going to take care about such stuff anymore, since "my mission got accomplished" according to notion of board" Chemist's answer: "And this is how it hits us now..." (my answer: "GTFO!") Mar 29 20:28:07 homestly, when I seek for punishment, I got local options that are WAY better than anything chemist offers Mar 29 20:31:33 hello... why cutetube so buggy? Mar 29 20:32:04 i guess youtube changed things since it was last updated? Mar 29 20:32:10 (again) Mar 29 20:32:17 sorry maemo community, but I'm **definitely** ged up with some assholes bitching at me for not doing stuff the right way 12 months back when nobody but me did anything. Particularly when now those assholdes start going Machiavelli and think they can kill me with my actions taken 12 months ago when those assholes were not around to do *ANYTHING* Mar 29 20:32:35 s/get/fed/ Mar 29 20:32:36 DocScrutinizer05 meant: sorry maemo community, but I'm **definitely** ged up with some assholes bitching at me for not doing stuff the right way 12 months back when nobody but me did anything. Particularly when now those assholdes start going Machiavelli and think they can kill ... Mar 29 20:32:47 s/ged/fed/ Mar 29 20:32:47 DocScrutinizer05 meant: sorry maemo community, but I'm **definitely** fed up with some assholes bitching at me for not doing stuff the right way 12 months back when nobody but me did anything. Particularly when now those assholdes start going Machiavelli and think they can kill ... Mar 29 20:33:09 lolz? Mar 29 20:33:56 keep that for the ime when HiFo heritage goes managing maemo.org! Mar 29 20:34:47 :( Mar 29 20:34:49 there are some guys with a massive self-esteem deficit&problem Mar 29 20:34:52 :'( Mar 29 20:35:04 really crying Mar 29 20:35:15 all mek me think sadly Mar 29 20:35:20 I stopped puking 4 weeks ago Mar 29 20:35:40 puking? Mar 29 20:35:46 ged up? Mar 29 20:35:57 i dont know some word Mar 29 20:36:49 I will downgrade cutetube before 1.9.1 Mar 29 20:37:47 then I will say again cutetube is sucking if I won't solve and then youtube is upgrading fucking up all is the right thing to think Mar 29 20:38:19 :'( Mar 29 20:38:46 what else than puke when HiFo tells you: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2014-March/005953.html etc pp Mar 29 20:39:46 HiFo is an incompetent bunch that has some agressive-offensive members Mar 29 20:41:19 actually HiFo killed maemo recently Mar 29 20:41:52 :'( Mar 29 20:41:58 indeed Mar 29 20:42:01 what does that mean Mar 29 20:42:05 :'( Mar 29 20:42:11 butr sorry, I can't cope with it anymore Mar 29 20:42:42 it means I'm out of business, and good luck maemo, whoever you are Mar 29 20:42:59 :'( Mar 29 20:43:37 *I* don't need maemo, and *I* don't get off on getting beaten Mar 29 20:43:49 F U !!! Mar 29 20:44:00 me? Mar 29 20:44:03 :'( Mar 29 20:45:01 not you Mar 29 20:45:15 some ot the hierarchy-way-up Mar 29 20:45:29 (but not as high as they think they are) Mar 29 20:45:41 hackers? Mar 29 20:45:55 are they overtaking? Mar 29 20:46:05 is repository changing? Mar 29 20:46:08 I don'z care Mar 29 20:46:57 I got my backups, and I got my bitch to handle the whip. don't need HiFo for that, that doesn't turn me on Mar 29 20:47:53 I'm going tpo step down from all positions in maemo, fuck dat shite Mar 29 20:48:19 alright Mar 29 20:48:31 when I'm searching for idiots, I can find plenty in a 150m radius Mar 29 20:48:36 I hope all will be restored better than before Mar 29 20:48:49 by whom? Mar 29 20:48:53 LOL Mar 29 20:49:13 by a chemist who got no clue how maemo.org works? Mar 29 20:49:16 DocScrutinizer05!!!! :'( Mar 29 20:49:30 by you Mar 29 20:49:49 sorry, dude. I have to take care about my own psyche Mar 29 20:50:07 it's WAAAY beyond the limit Mar 29 20:50:09 lol Mar 29 20:50:16 ok Mar 29 20:50:28 I could not imagine that Mar 29 20:50:47 read those ML threads and you get a glimpse Mar 29 20:51:15 about idiots bashing me for not doing what they thoufgt I should Mar 29 20:52:23 don't count on me, call me qwerty123 Mar 29 20:53:25 honestly for 100 dudes interested in maeo and 10 of them are really rogue and nuts, it#s not worth it Mar 29 20:53:44 oh my... Mar 29 20:54:30 I'm too old for that idiotic shit Mar 29 20:55:01 get easy holydays Mar 29 20:55:07 http://privatepaste.com/796e8ab248 Mar 29 20:55:12 get long break Mar 29 20:56:27 http://privatepaste.com/126f3cef6a Mar 29 20:57:06 startcom certs are free afaik Mar 29 20:57:49 NB this idiot had the instruction to stay 24/7 online on IRC in #maemo-admin but now asks silly questions that been aswered in this channel Mar 29 20:58:47 nox-: well, there is a free tier. Mar 29 20:58:54 alright... but you must take long break Mar 29 20:59:05 those certs were free, I crrated them Mar 29 20:59:46 when a idiot asks "why wheren't those created for HiFo??" - what the fuck am I answering? Mar 29 21:00:08 :-/ Mar 29 21:00:13 yeah :/ Mar 29 21:01:00 theres a german word, "vereinsmeierei" :( Mar 29 21:01:06 "Dear sir Chemist! those certs got not issued on name of HiFo because HiFo been totally APESHIT when we needed those" Mar 29 21:01:34 heh Mar 29 21:02:04 anyway, forget about my name, I leave maemo Mar 29 21:02:21 they managed to fuck me thoroughly Mar 29 21:02:31 :( Mar 29 21:02:45 wtf Mar 29 21:02:53 Rob, Woody, Chemist... Mar 29 21:03:00 its been nice while it lasted... Mar 29 21:03:21 just keep in mind to rest your intentions and yout minded ideas you are shooting now Mar 29 21:03:21 seems the problme has more 'personal' elements than 'business' elements. Mar 29 21:03:32 I really got better ways to waste my time Mar 29 21:03:54 Sicelo: i DON'T GIVE A FUCK Mar 29 21:03:55 you can't be serious right now DocScrutinizer05 Mar 29 21:04:09 just take your time Mar 29 21:04:19 break this routine Mar 29 21:04:23 go far Mar 29 21:04:32 I missed that opportunity to take my time. I's all set now Mar 29 21:04:35 take long break Mar 29 21:05:00 in 4..8 weeks new council gets elected. And I AM NOT ONE of the candidates Mar 29 21:05:26 FUCK YOU chemist, woody, rob Mar 29 21:05:27 I will talk if needed Mar 29 21:05:31 win7mac Mar 29 21:05:43 but you must take your time Mar 29 21:05:55 I don't 2must" anything Mar 29 21:06:10 I'm out Mar 29 21:06:16 byebye maemo Mar 29 21:06:32 this isshit Mar 29 21:06:40 can't be Mar 29 21:06:41 I will prolly still linger around on IRC, and that's it Mar 29 21:07:02 maemo-unofficial can be Mar 29 21:07:07 I hate to have to deal with idiots like chemist or woody Mar 29 21:07:25 it's not worth it Mar 29 21:07:36 ban that ones Mar 29 21:07:37 I got better tasks to do Mar 29 21:07:51 make maemo-unofficial Mar 29 21:07:57 and ban the ones Mar 29 21:07:58 meh! Mar 29 21:08:14 it all already exists Mar 29 21:08:26 lol?? Mar 29 21:09:05 ? Mar 29 21:09:10 but "the officials are sissies" that didn't know what it means to accept some responsibility and try to keep an community effort alive Mar 29 21:10:22 nobody is interested in council. Last HiFo board *I* conviced 100% of the members to run for elections Mar 29 21:10:53 and now we got that mess. it's my fault. so I take the consequences Mar 29 21:12:01 I'm not willing to help conduct a next election based on dunno-which-rules, with a broken infra that doesn't support karma Mar 29 21:12:36 with a board that's bitching on me "this is how it hits us now" Mar 29 21:13:00 FUCK YOU (except the omes present) Mar 29 21:13:43 honestly go die in a place I can't see, please! Mar 29 21:14:00 I got my backups Mar 29 21:14:10 DocScrutinizer05: ): what did I do Mar 29 21:14:51 I'm not available anymore, for *anything* Mar 29 21:14:54 DocScrutinizer05: mirrored repos and all ? Mar 29 21:15:07 guess! Mar 29 21:15:16 yes that what cares Mar 29 21:15:19 matter Mar 29 21:15:52 ask chemist to run this pile of stinking mess Mar 29 21:16:07 loooool Mar 29 21:16:38 n8 Mar 29 21:17:02 my... gosh Mar 29 21:17:06 can't be Mar 29 21:17:16 that's reality Mar 29 21:18:01 ~seen generalantilles Mar 29 21:18:08 generalantilles is currently on #maemo #harmattan, last said: 'They only have 2 pages of open applications.'. Mar 29 21:18:08 ~seen jaffa Mar 29 21:18:09 jaffa is currently on #maemo, last said: 'Fairy nuff'. Mar 29 21:18:35 question: when has this been said? Mar 29 21:19:42 doesn elaborate Mar 29 21:19:47 chemist and his chuck norris way to handle things doesn't please me Mar 29 21:20:03 and about win7mac I don't want to lose a single word Mar 29 21:20:03 ahahhhahhahhhah Mar 29 21:20:13 you were our bruce lee Mar 29 21:20:23 who beated him and never died Mar 29 21:20:50 sens autograph cards to DocScrutinizer05 Mar 29 21:20:54 send* Mar 29 21:21:07 cya Mar 29 21:21:19 and GOOs LUCK! Mar 29 21:21:22 where you will go? Mar 29 21:21:46 offline - for maemo official business Mar 29 21:21:56 and over IRC? Mar 29 21:22:31 I'm +o in this channel (rhe only active one left over). I won't stop this Mar 29 21:23:21 luckily HiFo has no saying in IRC Mar 29 21:23:45 so Mar 29 21:23:49 ~pr131 Mar 29 21:23:50 combined is, like, the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Mar 29 21:23:54 ~emmc Mar 29 21:23:56 rumour has it, emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Mar 29 21:23:59 ~flasher Mar 29 21:24:00 somebody said flasher was at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Mar 29 21:24:12 will all linger on, and get updated Mar 29 21:25:25 otjher than that, I'm fed up with 80% of what "maemo"means Mar 29 21:25:52 are you still working on neo900? Mar 29 21:26:37 The OS is cool, the community has a fatal tendency to make assholes their loudest represents Mar 29 21:26:48 nox-: you bet on that Mar 29 21:26:51 :-D Mar 29 21:27:19 :) Mar 29 21:27:40 and I have the power to not even sell a device to guys who I suspect mught be (ex-)members of HiFo Mar 29 21:28:46 hmm Mar 29 21:29:44 a cheers to our sysops, who got shamefuly abandoned by me, so they now have to deal with hiFo themselves Mar 29 21:30:07 sorry, I can't handle it anymore Mar 29 21:30:21 there's a limit of idiocy I can deal with Mar 29 21:33:20 up to you, the *community* now Mar 29 21:34:15 I have more meaningful tasks to fulfill, and more honest battles to win Mar 29 21:34:52 don't forget there should be elections in 6 weeks max! Mar 29 21:36:17 I don't give a shit anymore about sending out announcements or finding candidates or setting up the machine just in time Mar 29 21:36:39 s/shit/*S*H*I*T*/ Mar 29 21:36:39 DocScrutinizer05 meant: I don't give a *S*H*I*T* anymore about sending out announcements or finding candidates or setting up the machine just in time Mar 29 21:37:41 wiki karma broken... WHO CARES? I mentioned it 5 months ago Mar 29 21:38:01 I *bet* chemist has a solution for that Mar 29 21:40:28 DocScrutinizer05 can I have the script of your wonderful bot? Mar 29 21:43:39 which bot? Mar 29 21:43:50 some say *I* am a bot Mar 29 21:44:05 infobot Mar 29 21:44:15 Welcome to the infobot channel || Latest version: 1.5.3 @ https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2241 || SVN: 1.5.4 http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ || Blootbot merged into infobot || apt/ibot/infobot/purl run by TimRiker Mar 29 21:44:42 ~owner Mar 29 21:44:43 TimRiker is my owner Mar 29 21:44:44 well zi am not interest yet Mar 29 21:45:39 estel_* never groked it Mar 29 21:45:48 I'm not owner of infobot Mar 29 21:45:56 ok Mar 29 21:46:08 though I earned asmin permissions Mar 29 21:46:15 admn* Mar 29 21:46:20 meh Mar 29 21:47:08 well, i love you, master Mar 29 21:47:21 ~botsnack Mar 29 21:47:21 DocScrutinizer05: thanks Mar 29 21:49:36 we'll miss you Mar 29 21:49:47 infobot: stop talking silly Mar 29 21:49:47 * infobot leaps to his feet and stops talking silly Mar 29 21:51:09 ...heh Mar 29 21:53:32 i setup ActiveSync on my N900 a while ago, using an Outlook.com address. What I notice recently is that somehow calendar syncing gets disabled on the N900 randomly. if i reenable it, it works for a while, the gets disabled again. anyone else observed similar behaviour with AS, or who might have a potential fix? Mar 29 21:57:40 I'm amazed ActiveSync still works Mar 29 21:57:59 I have never used it myself Mar 29 22:11:17 actually I'm amazed that some people still use the N900 (including me) Mar 29 22:12:08 I don't see any reason why we shouldnt :) Mar 29 22:12:57 Sailfish OS released a version for the Nexus 4 Mar 29 22:13:01 isn't that tempting? :P Mar 29 22:13:51 actually Jolla released it Mar 29 22:16:01 but not ready for daily use afaik Mar 29 22:19:34 Sc0rpius: nope :) Mar 29 22:20:25 (RIL and jolla's frankenstein kernel arent tempting for me ;) Mar 29 23:29:30 DocScrutinizer05, you desperately need some down time. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 30 02:59:59 2014