**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 10 02:59:58 2014 Apr 10 11:51:07 quick one: is it correct to believe DropN900 does not work anymore? Apr 10 12:50:23 Sicelo: try n900fly instead? ;) Apr 10 13:12:00 hmm, i was not expecting that r00t^d430, but thanks anyway Apr 10 13:33:33 almost the same thing (by the name at least), no? Apr 10 14:26:58 r00t^d430: if you're serious, apt-cache show dropn900 and apt-cache show n900fly will show you that they are vastly different Apr 10 15:33:28 vans: not much new software being released on downloads.maemo.org though, is there :( Apr 10 15:33:56 I know ..its been abandoned from nokia Apr 10 15:34:22 doesn't matter still I'd love to use it as a tiny computer thingie.. better than my android tablet Apr 10 15:34:36 vans: well yes bbut when i bought mine (was in 2012 i think, or 2013, so already long after nokia had abandoned it) there was still new software, or at least new versions, being released in the repos Apr 10 15:34:40 easier to run scripts and stuff or even develop some small stuff Apr 10 15:35:10 vans: wait, what sort of thing (size mainly) is your tablet, and would you not mind having something that big if it worked alright? Apr 10 15:35:38 dunno if thats a problem since you can boot some linuxy and have whatever you wish Apr 10 15:36:04 my tablet works alright.. well only some wifi issues 7-8 inches? and custom game pad buttons on each side Apr 10 15:36:32 yet I dont know why..N900 attracts me.. maybe because the community is so fuzzy about it on da net Apr 10 15:36:34 i only really use the N900 with Maemo though. Maemo is linuxy enough, not too open source, but works much better for a small touch screen with limited resources than Linux distros i could think of Apr 10 15:36:54 or because it'd be easier to fire up some packet injecting tools Apr 10 15:37:19 id use maemo for like 85% of time.. for most stuff Apr 10 15:37:35 vans: okay, i was just considering that this tablet/netbook hybrid i recently got, the Asus T100, might be a nice alternative if you don't mind big. it's 10", with a reasonably-sized (though not awesome-feeling) detachable keyboard and touchpad Apr 10 15:37:51 vans: install Gentoo Apr 10 15:37:56 and id tinker with another boot (archlinux comes to mind) tiling wm setup...costumized for touch instead of mousy stuff Apr 10 15:37:59 wut? :3 Apr 10 15:38:06 id ont want to get that deep Apr 10 15:38:10 setting flags etc Apr 10 15:38:16 Arch is just as deep Apr 10 15:38:27 its really tiny device to cause that much of a headache :3 Apr 10 15:38:40 not really.. only if u mess after an update ? Apr 10 15:39:06 not like gentoo lacks package management Apr 10 15:39:29 but no, i wouldn't use any distro geared towards compiling a lot of things... on an N900... Apr 10 15:40:07 well Asus T100 huh? Apr 10 15:40:24 I see Apr 10 15:40:42 is that win 8? or rt Apr 10 15:41:36 it looks much like the surface of microsoft and well.. size matters :3 I got already a tablet.. a surface.. a 17'' laptop Apr 10 15:42:26 n900 could be a secondary phone capable of giving me the tinkerer's feel if I want to feel that joy , and maybe capable of wireless testing (better than the android equivalents) Apr 10 15:42:50 and its going for 60-100 euro.. another device would be pricey Apr 10 17:13:38 yay, 8GB RAM used by nepomuk Apr 10 17:14:52 `date; free; nepomukctl restart; sleep 5; free; date` - should get an alias for that Apr 10 17:15:58 or simply exploit ulimit ? Apr 10 17:16:41 Sicelo: I believe there is a fixed version not in the repos, look for the thread on TMO. Apr 10 17:16:52 dropbox changed there API. Apr 10 17:17:19 I have strange error while booting: [FAILED] Failed to start Apply Kernel Variables. - See 'systemctl status systemd-sysctl.service' for details. Apr 10 17:17:35 And that systemctl... doesn't really give any clue what went wrong Apr 10 17:17:56 Anyone familiar with this issue (perhaps its something widely known..)? Apr 10 17:18:19 I need to look at getting DropN900 working now that U1 account is closing. Apr 10 17:18:23 Fedora 20 with latest kernel Apr 10 17:18:56 Sh** wrong channel Apr 10 17:26:25 Is there something decent that does webdav for the n900? Apr 10 17:27:06 i.e. that can be used for e.g. owncloud Apr 10 17:47:38 thanks sixwheeledbeast, will look Apr 10 17:47:43 np Apr 10 18:22:26 sixwheeledbeast: \o/ works Apr 10 18:23:09 Sicelo: which version? Apr 10 19:03:05 /home/user/MyDocs/Bootstrap/debootstrap-1.0.55~bpo70+1 # make Apr 10 19:03:06 rm -rf dev Apr 10 19:03:06 mkdir -p dev Apr 10 19:03:06 chown 0:0 dev Apr 10 19:03:06 chown: dev: Operation not permitted Apr 10 19:03:08 make: *** [devices.tar.gz] Fehler 1 Apr 10 19:03:13 What the… Apr 10 19:03:45 Is there something like easy-deb-chroot for installing a pristine Debian Bootstrap? Apr 10 19:04:08 easy-deb is too outdated for me Apr 10 19:04:18 Now in Bleeding-Heart-Age… Apr 10 19:04:36 Also the lzma Decompression often fscks up my Device Apr 10 19:30:02 dpkg-deb: file `/var/cache/apt/archives/debian-keyring_2014.03.03_all.deb' contains ununderstood data member data.tar.xz , giving up Apr 10 19:30:05 fsck Apr 10 19:30:34 I tried adding the normal Debian Repo to the Main Maemo Space (not in chroot) and seems it does not grok .xz yet :-( Apr 10 19:30:46 I'll try stable or backports or sth… Apr 10 19:31:47 Ah, stable instead of testing shall work! Apr 10 19:44:24 sixwheeledbeast: you install from repos first, then use the tweaks provided on tmo. it shows version as 0.2.2 Apr 10 19:47:25 Sicelo: mmm, shame this fix isn't in the repos. Thanks for confirming it works Apr 10 19:47:38 The following packages have unmet dependencies: Apr 10 19:47:38 hildon-initscripts: Depends: osso-af-startup but it is not going to be installed Apr 10 19:47:41 sysvinit-utils: Breaks: upstart (< 1.5-1) but 0.3.8-68+0cssu7 is to be installed Apr 10 19:47:44 OMG, WTF? Apr 10 19:49:29 Apic: what are you doing? Apr 10 19:49:51 apt-get install screen debootstrap zsh tmux Apr 10 19:50:02 I reduced it to debootstrap, now it seems to work Apr 10 19:51:03 screen seems to b0rk it. Apr 10 19:51:07 sad Apr 10 19:51:11 strange Apr 10 19:51:29 Yes Apr 10 19:51:47 apt-cache show screen|grep Depends ? Apr 10 19:53:53 Fuck Apr 10 19:54:16 Now i installed gcc by Accident and it cannot find libgcc_s or something anymore. %-( Apr 10 19:54:36 If Reboot does not fix the Issue, i have to reflash yet again ;-( Apr 10 19:55:37 you will need to revise your approach to maemo :) Apr 10 19:55:59 ;-) Apr 10 19:56:04 Very true Apr 10 19:56:13 Ok, bricked Apr 10 19:56:25 I'll go to Bed and reflash it tomorrow Apr 10 19:56:52 thursday bad day for you Apr 10 19:57:03 At least the current Fan-Firmware does not need the Timetravel-Workaround because of the outdated Signing-Key Apr 10 19:57:08 i have flashed my N900 only once, the day i bought it, July 2011. Apr 10 19:57:18 Yes, World always ends on Thursdays (according to the Hitchhiker's) Apr 10 19:57:25 Whoah, Respect! Apr 10 19:57:32 Ok, GN Apr 10 20:24:59 Apic: MyDocs is a VFAT fs usually, chown won't work Apr 10 20:51:34 11 Apr 10 20:52:43 * ecc3g tries to hit the onscreen esc button again... Apr 10 20:56:16 remap remap remap! :) Apr 10 20:59:32 WTF?! Apr 10 21:00:32 triple-height font, you can't help love UTF-8 Apr 10 21:00:47  Apr 10 21:00:53 wow Apr 10 21:02:07 didn't know such fonts were even possible Apr 10 21:02:31 when triple-height is possible, then... where does it end? Apr 10 21:02:40 whole screenshots? Apr 10 21:02:53 movies? Apr 10 21:03:50 http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/10/plasma-desktopLn1775.png Apr 10 21:06:45 only what I see is a '?' :-) Apr 10 21:06:51 I need UTF8 Apr 10 21:07:00 * silviof thought he has UTF8 Apr 10 21:14:20 LOL, jonwil's alive :D http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1420749&postcount=7 Apr 10 21:16:03 :) Apr 10 21:24:03 grrrr, borked transitions.ini and managing to get a proper one back was a pain... Apr 10 21:30:34 thought that was fixed. Apr 10 21:44:57 sixwheeledbeast: It seems it isn't (CSSU-thumb/testing) Apr 10 21:45:07 maybe in cssu-devel Apr 10 21:45:26 mmm not sure Apr 10 21:45:32 ~cssu-devel Apr 10 21:45:33 extra, extra, read all about it, cssu-devel is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84292, or extremely deprecated for any non-developer Apr 10 21:46:20 ah my backup transition.ini is awfully slow :P Apr 10 21:47:22 ah fixed in h-d 2.2.154~2 must be cssu-devel Apr 10 21:48:55 it is in cssu-devel Apr 10 22:45:51 yeah but not running devel on this "stable" N900 Apr 10 22:48:54 you can't 2run devel", it's not a distro, not even a collection of working programs Apr 10 22:59:01 Well, let's say I don't have cssu-devel added Apr 10 22:59:57 And I don't like doing that on a "stable" device Apr 10 23:00:32 Although my other n900 is running fine (at first sight) too **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 11 02:59:58 2014