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Apr 15 06:18:11 <Apic> A wonderful splendid extraordinary fine Setting Orange (Tuesday) Morning (UGT) to all of You!
Apr 15 06:19:14 <Luke-Jr> isn't UGT implied by now? :P
Apr 15 06:21:16 <Apic> Probably, yes/
Apr 15 06:21:20 <Apic> s#/#.#
Apr 15 07:22:52 <HtheB> chem|st: hi
Apr 15 08:09:35 <chem|st> HtheB: o/
Apr 15 08:09:45 <HtheB> o/ how are you
Apr 15 08:09:56 <chem|st> exhausted, thanks for asking
Apr 15 08:10:28 <HtheB> can you remove a poll from a topic>
Apr 15 08:10:29 <HtheB> ?
Apr 15 08:10:47 <chem|st> no idea, but lets try ;)
Apr 15 08:10:48 <HtheB> seems like the moderators are sleeping deed
Apr 15 08:10:50 <HtheB> deep*
Apr 15 08:11:05 <chem|st> lnk?
Apr 15 08:11:09 <HtheB> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91743
Apr 15 08:11:34 <HtheB> I got a request by ancelad himself, but I dont have moderator powers in that sub
Apr 15 08:12:27 <chem|st> personal?
Apr 15 08:12:49 <chem|st> I add you to software if you want to?
Apr 15 08:13:59 <chem|st> why does he want to delete it anyways?!
Apr 15 08:14:17 <HtheB> it has nothing to do anymore with the thread
Apr 15 08:14:39 <HtheB> chem|st: that would be good because the moderators are not active as used to be
Apr 15 08:15:10 <chem|st> I will try and reset fields, but there is no option to delete the poll
Apr 15 08:15:30 <HtheB> hmm
Apr 15 08:17:34 <chem|st> ok deleting poll needs admin rights not only moderator rights
Apr 15 08:19:36 <chem|st> the mods in theme are tim and andrew and they are both some days late on everything, just like I am! you are added to software mod list
Apr 15 08:20:35 <chem|st> poll deleted
Apr 15 08:21:54 <HtheB> \:D/
Apr 15 08:21:54 <HtheB> thanks
Apr 15 08:22:11 <HtheB> but they haven't been online since like a month now
Apr 15 08:22:32 <Raimu> Dammit, a lot of websites are turning to forced https
Apr 15 08:22:50 <chem|st> Raimu: I think about it too
Apr 15 08:22:52 <Raimu> N900 speed killer and for what?
Apr 15 08:23:02 <chem|st> Raimu: for your privacy
Apr 15 08:23:29 <chem|st> HtheB: yes, but they get emails like everyone else
Apr 15 08:23:34 <Raimu> Yes, or rather so nobody mitms unaware people using open wlans
Apr 15 08:23:47 <chem|st> for example
Apr 15 08:24:33 <chem|st> it is actually bad to have something with login without tls, but as long as you are not logged in it could be http
Apr 15 08:24:45 <Raimu> Yep
Apr 15 08:25:28 <Raimu> But then picture aggregate sites send like jpegs under https too
Apr 15 08:25:49 <Raimu> Seems like a pointless waste to have someone's youtube viewing https'd
Apr 15 08:26:06 <SAiF> i trusted openssl until last week. Now I learned to never trust anything..
Apr 15 08:26:23 <Raimu> I guess I wouldn't mind if it didn't incur performance hits or interoperability hits even today
Apr 15 08:29:18 <chem|st> SAiF: I do not trust banks for online banking... anyone who does SMS-TAN is not trustworthy and that are many!
Apr 15 08:30:00 <SAiF> 2 years a bug is intolerable
Apr 15 08:30:16 <Raimu> SMS-TAN sounds like a Japanese honorific
Apr 15 08:30:21 <Raimu> *looks it up*
Apr 15 08:30:24 <chem|st> SAiF: the openssl disaster is not that bad, as long as the server admins knew what they are doing there never was a way of hijacking
Apr 15 08:30:25 <SAiF> I even wonder how could it happen
Apr 15 08:31:25 <chem|st> just like the random numbergenerator for DSA, was a left behind testcase in the release code
Apr 15 08:31:34 <chem|st> noone recognized for years
Apr 15 08:31:47 <SAiF> may be none revealed it..
Apr 15 08:32:37 <Raimu> I've read programmer essays on that openssl is a horrible string of unreadable code
Apr 15 08:33:09 <Raimu> "Nobody ever, EVER wants to revise it" seems a common viewpoint
Apr 15 08:33:42 <chem|st> and that is the actual bad point
Apr 15 08:34:36 <chem|st> security relevant code noone wants to touch as it was waterfally programmed 10 years ago and noone understands it anymore
Apr 15 08:35:33 <SAiF> the older version 0.9.8e-27.1 didnt had that bug.. Now I think "if it isn't broken never fix it" rule 
Apr 15 08:36:39 <SAiF> what ever.
Apr 15 08:51:33 <chem|st> SAiF: "never change a running system" is what you are looking for
Apr 15 08:56:54 <SAiF> :) yes
Apr 15 09:54:52 <Psi__> i was happy to see someone wrote a n900/maemo version of the 2048 game :)
Apr 15 09:55:29 <Raimu> I noticed that too, hilarious.
Apr 15 09:57:18 <r00t^d430> i don't get the point of porting a game that was initially implemented in dhtml that runs on any device anyway
Apr 15 10:00:39 <Raimu> APPIFICATION
Apr 15 10:14:20 <jaska> http://www.sis.uta.fi/~ar72757/yhdet/ is my preferred 2048-clone 
Apr 15 10:14:34 <jaska> unfortunately its in finnish
Apr 15 10:33:27 <Maxdamantus> tuhat kuusi sataa
Apr 15 10:33:35 <Maxdamantus> need lisää skills
Apr 15 11:23:43 <Shadowski> hello
Apr 15 11:23:47 <Shadowski> everybody
Apr 15 11:25:13 <Shadowski> anyone here?
Apr 15 11:26:46 <Shadowski> hello
Apr 15 11:26:50 <Shadowski> ...
Apr 15 11:28:53 <Shadowski> test test, can anyone hear me?
Apr 15 11:29:02 <jaska> test fail.
Apr 15 11:29:06 <Shadowski> :(
Apr 15 11:29:34 <Shadowski> well atleast i did get fail response
Apr 15 11:29:35 <Shadowski> :D
Apr 15 11:30:21 <Shadowski> why is everyone silent in here?
Apr 15 11:30:31 <Shadowski> it's like somebody died in here
Apr 15 11:31:52 <Shadowski> anyway, can somebody help me out with my n900?
Apr 15 11:33:58 <Shadowski> jesus christ, so many people in here, and everyoby is away
Apr 15 11:33:59 <Shadowski> ...
Apr 15 11:35:12 <chem|st> Shadowski: if you do not tell what your problem is noone will answer your questions before you even ask them..
Apr 15 11:40:19 <Shadowski> ok, my problem is with the battery indicator. It always says that it is very low. At first i thought it was the battery, so i bought a new one(polar cell). It didn't help. After that i did flash my phone with fiasco image, didn't help as well. The battery discharges normally, its the battery meter that keeps saying that battery is low, and i suspect it is also the reason i cannot boot the cellphone in normal mode(i run it in R&D cur
Apr 15 11:40:29 <Shadowski> anyone knows what the issue could be?
Apr 15 11:44:46 <Shadowski> oh and i use external charger, to charge the battery
Apr 15 12:02:14 <DocScrutinizer05> with external charger (charging cell outside of N900), there's no way the N900 can have a semi-decent idea of exact charge left over in cell
Apr 15 12:04:41 <Shadowski> but still saying low battery every minute is getting annoying
Apr 15 12:04:49 <Shadowski> anyway to diable that warning?
Apr 15 12:06:00 <Shadowski> oh and the phone doesnt charge through usb, it keeps rebooting
Apr 15 12:07:26 <DocScrutinizer05> o.O
Apr 15 12:07:57 <DocScrutinizer05> you should reflash. your system seems completely messed up
Apr 15 12:08:13 <Shadowski> i did write, that i did reflasing with fiasco
Apr 15 12:08:18 <Shadowski> over 10 times
Apr 15 12:08:22 <Shadowski> didn't help
Apr 15 12:08:46 <DocScrutinizer05> mhm, and you're sure this did work?
Apr 15 12:09:06 <Shadowski> what did work?
Apr 15 12:09:12 <DocScrutinizer05> over 10 times sounds like you're clueless about flashing
Apr 15 12:09:28 <Shadowski> doc, i am not clueless
Apr 15 12:09:36 <Shadowski> i can boot up phone in R&D mode
Apr 15 12:09:43 <Shadowski> the flash sent ok
Apr 15 12:09:50 <Shadowski> but it didn't solve my problem with battery
Apr 15 12:09:53 <DocScrutinizer05> when flashing works, one time should suffice. No additional gain from doing it multiple times
Apr 15 12:10:08 <Shadowski> yes, i meant i tried different versions
Apr 15 12:10:24 <Shadowski> i meant 10 times as i tried different versions of FIASCO image
Apr 15 12:10:35 <Shadowski> not litteraly 10 times flashed :P
Apr 15 12:10:42 <chem|st> Shadowski: reflashing wont help a completly of the record battery state
Apr 15 12:11:31 <Shadowski> i don't know. i am thinking it has to do something with bq27200 chip
Apr 15 12:11:37 <Shadowski> i think it fried in kinda way
Apr 15 12:11:42 <Shadowski> i bought my cell phone used
Apr 15 12:11:49 <DocScrutinizer05> ~bq27k
Apr 15 12:11:56 <DocScrutinizer05> ~bq27200
Apr 15 12:11:57 <infobot> i guess bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2
Apr 15 12:12:06 <chem|st> I had the same issue as you have, reseting the learning cycle of the battery is the only way to get it back to normal
Apr 15 12:12:28 <Shadowski> well thats the problem where i encountered
Apr 15 12:12:40 <Shadowski> i found a thread in maemo about callibrating battery
Apr 15 12:12:51 <Shadowski> the bq27200.sh script
Apr 15 12:12:54 <chem|st> that -> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1053809&postcount=846
Apr 15 12:12:57 <DocScrutinizer05> the poor chip gets *totally* confused by a battery that all the time just discharges
Apr 15 12:13:41 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm more puzzled about your device bootlooping when not in R&D mode
Apr 15 12:13:50 <DocScrutinizer05> this sounds like other stuff fried
Apr 15 12:14:00 <Shadowski> yeah doc, but the problem i am encountering is that VQD always stays 0 even after charging
Apr 15 12:14:34 <Shadowski> bootlooping accurs while charging thru usb
Apr 15 12:14:35 <DocScrutinizer05> VDQ
Apr 15 12:14:40 <Shadowski> vdq sorry
Apr 15 12:15:18 <DocScrutinizer05> you got some hw problems hardly related to bq27200
Apr 15 12:15:48 <DocScrutinizer05> pretty tricky to find out what's wrong
Apr 15 12:16:09 <Shadowski> it doesn't really bother me, i use the device mainly for penetration testing
Apr 15 12:16:18 <Shadowski> its jsut the warning is annoying
Apr 15 12:16:27 <chem|st> well it is huge enough for that...
Apr 15 12:17:14 <DocScrutinizer05> reflash to *stock* PR1.3.1! TEST! NO powerkernel, NO additional apps or drivers!
Apr 15 12:17:18 <DocScrutinizer05> ~pr131
Apr 15 12:17:19 <infobot> i guess combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
Apr 15 12:17:37 <DocScrutinizer05> reflash VANILLA as well
Apr 15 12:17:48 <DocScrutinizer05> disable R&D mode
Apr 15 12:17:54 <DocScrutinizer05> then TEST
Apr 15 12:18:20 <Shadowski> oh man, i installed so many soft already :/
Apr 15 12:18:39 <DocScrutinizer05> when problem persists: install syslogd/ksyslogd and pastebin the syslog
Apr 15 12:18:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ~bm
Apr 15 12:18:51 <infobot> from memory, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975
Apr 15 12:20:44 <Shadowski> btw, i installed queenbeacon widget with battery meter
Apr 15 12:20:52 <Shadowski> and guess what it is outputing
Apr 15 12:21:27 <Shadowski> 3680107.2% 44164.316V
Apr 15 12:21:44 <Shadowski> thats definetely wrong something with the sensor
Apr 15 12:21:55 <Shadowski> i don't think reflasing will really help
Apr 15 12:22:09 <DocScrutinizer05> I think it will
Apr 15 12:22:31 <Shadowski> doc, i did reflash multiple times, i said already, it didn't help
Apr 15 12:23:28 <DocScrutinizer05> you got a broken beta version of bme/hal-plugin-bme/batteryapplet/powerkernel, and it sounds like you reflashed and reinstalled all that a 10 times
Apr 15 12:23:54 <Shadowski> hmm
Apr 15 12:24:00 <Shadowski> ok, ill try your image
Apr 15 12:24:06 <DocScrutinizer05> read my instructions above!
Apr 15 12:25:44 <DocScrutinizer05> I actually dare to guess you enabled bq27200.ko kernel module
Apr 15 12:26:02 <Shadowski> dod, no its disabled
Apr 15 12:26:43 <DocScrutinizer05> mhm, proof please!
Apr 15 12:26:54 <Shadowski> too late, i am reflashing now
Apr 15 12:26:58 <Shadowski> as you asked
Apr 15 12:27:28 <DocScrutinizer05> honestly, the amount of info you share is not enough to even start considering to try to find out what's wrong
Apr 15 12:28:20 <Shadowski> yeah i know, i have a bad expierence with 1st line support
Apr 15 12:28:30 <Shadowski> so thats why maybe i am a little angry
Apr 15 12:29:01 <Shadowski> ok reflashed and disabled R&D mode
Apr 15 12:29:19 <DocScrutinizer05> both vanilla and combined?
Apr 15 12:29:56 <Shadowski> i cannot flash vanilla
Apr 15 12:30:05 <Shadowski> it says no suitable device found
Apr 15 12:30:20 <DocScrutinizer05> and btw your fault when you didn't do a proper BM backup before you started reflashing. There been a reason why I quoted it above
Apr 15 12:30:30 <DocScrutinizer05> tzz
Apr 15 12:30:37 <DocScrutinizer05> ~flashing
Apr 15 12:30:38 <infobot> i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Apr 15 12:34:04 <Shadowski> combined flashed sucessfully, vanilla emmc i cannot flash
Apr 15 12:34:25 <Shadowski> it says no suitable device found, and phone goes into reboot loop
Apr 15 12:35:28 <DocScrutinizer05> again!
Apr 15 12:35:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ~flashing
Apr 15 12:35:30 <infobot> somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Apr 15 12:36:10 <Shadowski> what do you want to tell me witht this?
Apr 15 12:36:40 <DocScrutinizer05> I want to tell you that your problem is old and well known and the solutions are on that very fine page
Apr 15 12:36:56 <DocScrutinizer05> if only you bother to read it *completely*
Apr 15 12:37:14 <Shadowski> i didn't find my problem there
Apr 15 12:37:15 <Shadowski> ...
Apr 15 12:38:20 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, yeah. reading is hard
Apr 15 12:39:21 <DocScrutinizer05> I can spot 3 hits on that page for the very searchstring "no suitable device found"
Apr 15 12:39:33 <Shadowski> yeah, and all of them are not my case!!!
Apr 15 12:39:52 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, I'm not 1st level helpdesk
Apr 15 12:39:59 <Shadowski> i can clearly see that
Apr 15 12:40:02 <DocScrutinizer05> bye
Apr 15 12:40:43 <DocScrutinizer05> ~question
Apr 15 12:40:45 <infobot> it has been said that question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Apr 15 13:10:22 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#the_complete_foolproof_procedure
Apr 15 15:24:26 <RockStone> hey!
Apr 15 15:25:03 <RockStone> how much should a 100% working good condition N900 cost 2nd hand at the US by Ebay?
Apr 15 15:49:59 <RockStone> how much should a 100% working good condition N900 cost 2nd hand at the US by Ebay?
Apr 15 16:09:37 <DocScrutinizer05> 100
Apr 15 16:09:48 <DocScrutinizer05> 150
Apr 15 20:36:22 <Sc0rpius> automatic promotion to Extras is not working
Apr 15 20:36:48 <Sc0rpius> who can help me to promote Yappari 1.1.46 to Extras? Already had enough votes in testing and already promoted by me
Apr 15 20:40:51 <freemangordon> Sc0rpius: when did you promote it?
Apr 15 20:42:41 <freemangordon> oh - 2014-04-15 19:32 UTC
Apr 15 20:42:50 <freemangordon> it takes some time
Apr 15 20:44:10 <Sc0rpius> yeah but I promoted from Yappari 1.1.42 to 1.1.45 and they never reached extras :(
Apr 15 20:44:20 <Sc0rpius> I'll bug you tomorrow again you'll see :P
Apr 15 20:44:20 <freemangordon> hmm, lemme check
Apr 15 20:46:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I wonder if it's worth fixing dat shite, or simply less effort to do the 5 promotions per year manually
Apr 15 20:49:00 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, discuss that with HiFo
Apr 15 20:49:11 <freemangordon> hmm, what?!?
Apr 15 20:49:29 <freemangordon> why it is there?
Apr 15 20:49:38 <Sc0rpius> 5 promotions a year? are we that alone in the universe? :(
Apr 15 20:49:45 <freemangordon> in "fmg@stage:/var/repository/staging/extras/pool/fremantle/free/y/yappari"
Apr 15 20:50:20 <freemangordon> it should be in pr-13
Apr 15 20:50:23 <freemangordon> oh, it IS there
Apr 15 20:50:24 <DocScrutinizer05> well, HiFo stated that no more coordination of maintenance needed, so it's up to them to take care about infra, incl deciding what to fix, find somebody to do that, explain to him what exactly needs to get done, aso
Apr 15 20:50:28 <freemangordon> :)
Apr 15 20:51:41 <freemangordon> Sc0rpius: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/y/yappari/
Apr 15 20:51:47 <Sc0rpius> lemme see
Apr 15 20:51:55 <DocScrutinizer05> I've been an idiot for weeks, not noticing the opportunity this offers to me
Apr 15 20:52:11 <Sc0rpius> that means is already in extras?
Apr 15 20:52:19 <Sc0rpius> the i386 :(
Apr 15 20:52:33 <freemangordon> hmm, yeah
Apr 15 20:52:42 <Sc0rpius> what about the armel?
Apr 15 20:52:45 <freemangordon> but it takes time
Apr 15 20:52:50 <Sc0rpius> ok
Apr 15 20:53:02 <Sc0rpius> but
Apr 15 20:53:04 <Sc0rpius> in this link:
Apr 15 20:53:17 <Sc0rpius> http://maemo.org/packages/view/yappari/
Apr 15 20:53:22 <Sc0rpius> it says the latest version in Extras is 1.1.41 
Apr 15 20:53:34 <freemangordon> yes, I see
Apr 15 20:53:39 <freemangordon> something is broken
Apr 15 20:54:03 <DocScrutinizer05> OOOH, exciting news ;-P
Apr 15 20:55:01 <freemangordon> Sc0rpius: I see armel version to be build too, it will need some more time I guess
Apr 15 20:56:43 <Sc0rpius> cool
Apr 15 21:41:12 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders why there's still no "==the ultimate flashing tool==\n <code>sudo (wget http://maemo.cloud7-de/flashingtool -O /usr/local/bin/flashingtool && chmod +x /usr/local/bin/flashingtool && /usr/local/bin/flashingtool)"
Apr 15 21:41:22 <DocScrutinizer05> </code>
Apr 15 21:48:58 <DocScrutinizer05> hmmmm http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1421536#post1421536
Apr 15 23:10:34 <otwieracz> hi
Apr 15 23:10:41 <otwieracz> Any ideas why http://wklej.org/hash/7e2f969da2e/ behaviours like:
Apr 15 23:10:46 <otwieracz> $ ./extfmc.py
Apr 15 23:10:46 <otwieracz> $
Apr 15 23:10:50 <otwieracz> and no window at all?
Apr 15 23:13:03 <Maxdamantus> otwieracz: you never call gtk.main()
Apr 15 23:13:13 <Maxdamantus> otwieracz: it's in a method that's never called.
Apr 15 23:13:18 <otwieracz> Hmm.
Apr 15 23:13:24 <otwieracz> Yes, I examined this right now.
Apr 15 23:13:29 <otwieracz> But on my desktop it works fine.
Apr 15 23:13:32 <otwieracz> what's weird
Apr 15 23:14:51 <Maxdamantus> It doesn't on mine.
Apr 15 23:14:59 <Maxdamantus> unless I add `win.main()` at the end.
Apr 15 23:15:15 <Maxdamantus> are you sure you're running the same version of the program as in the paste?
Apr 15 23:15:31 <otwieracz> Yes.
Apr 15 23:15:41 <Maxdamantus> on the desktop
Apr 15 23:16:01 <otwieracz> weird
Apr 15 23:16:12 <otwieracz> I find the difference
Apr 15 23:16:13 <Maxdamantus> You're not running it within another Python script that later calls gtk.main()
Apr 15 23:16:24 <Maxdamantus> or glib.main_loop() or something
Apr 15 23:16:32 <otwieracz> It shows only when in interpreter:
Apr 15 23:16:35 <otwieracz> |>>> win = XfmcWindow()
Apr 15 23:16:38 <otwieracz> window shows
Apr 15 23:16:41 <otwieracz> |>>> 
Apr 15 23:17:16 <Maxdamantus> Are you running a special Gtk-augmented interpreter?
Apr 15 23:17:54 <Maxdamantus> I've seen one, which should result in the behaviour you're seeing.
Apr 15 23:18:29 <Maxdamantus> Essentially, that is "another Python script that later calls gtk.main()"
Apr 15 23:18:33 <Maxdamantus> although it's earlier, not later.
Apr 15 23:19:27 <otwieracz> I am running python -i in emacs.
Apr 15 23:20:44 <Maxdamantus> Dunno then, but you see now what's missing, at least.
Apr 15 23:21:35 <Maxdamantus> Ah, it does it for me as well in the normal interpreter.
Apr 15 23:22:05 <Maxdamantus> So I guess pygtk itself runs gtk.main() beforehand if it notices it's being loaded in the interpreter.
Apr 15 23:22:15 <Maxdamantus> so that you can see the GUI as you're programming it.
Apr 16 01:07:49 <natsukao> hi
Apr 16 01:08:52 <natsukao> for all the users of nokia's, android, GNU/linux...
Apr 16 01:08:59 <natsukao> see: http://pastebin.com/3A5h2QbJ
Apr 16 01:14:05 <natsukao> better to consult: http://pastebin.com/gjfd1SLR
Apr 16 01:14:33 <natsukao> is fine explained, how to use on nokia 770
Apr 16 01:14:48 <natsukao> will not be, much different on the other ones
Apr 16 01:15:46 <DocScrutinizer05> HUH?
Apr 16 01:15:53 <natsukao> if you are interested to modify the source code, add your names, the modifies you did, and explain how to use on different achitecture as i did
Apr 16 01:16:12 <natsukao> yes, is only a script ! 
Apr 16 01:17:02 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, this thing looks pretty fishy
Apr 16 01:17:05 <natsukao> a script generated on X86 for NetBSD, and i found the way, to do work it on a ARM (RISC) on Nokia 770
Apr 16 01:18:03 <DocScrutinizer05> I suggest to NOT test this stuff!
Apr 16 01:18:04 <natsukao> the fact is that it works, and is just pretty for this
Apr 16 01:18:16 <natsukao> i tested it, and it works
Apr 16 01:18:47 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, the registry optimizer that hacked my bank account also worked just fine
Apr 16 01:19:04 <natsukao> i explained how to use that script on Nokia 770
Apr 16 01:19:14 <DocScrutinizer05> please stop that nonsense
Apr 16 01:19:24 <natsukao> it was available only for OpenBSD
Apr 16 01:20:02 <DocScrutinizer05> when it's a script, it's completely nonsensical to claim it was for X86
Apr 16 01:20:28 <natsukao> anything, that can seems a strange game, generated with a script, or else, i think that would be accepted with pleasure
Apr 16 01:20:29 <DocScrutinizer05> and it only consists of 5 lines code that look terribly fishy
Apr 16 01:20:51 <natsukao> and it works on ARM
Apr 16 01:21:05 <DocScrutinizer05> PLEASE STOP ADVERISING MALWARE!
Apr 16 01:21:16 <DocScrutinizer05> was that clear enough?
Apr 16 01:21:18 <robbiethe1st> I don't see how it could do anything bad, despite seeming fishy
Apr 16 01:21:24 <natsukao> maleware ?
Apr 16 01:22:00 <DocScrutinizer05> robbiethe1st: it's not exactly obvious but very strong indications it does rogue stuff
Apr 16 01:22:27 <natsukao> that source code was generated to the #  The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
Apr 16 01:23:19 <natsukao> read any single row, before to type on the keyboard
Apr 16 01:23:40 <natsukao> between 1985 and 1993 there was not the idea of a maleware
Apr 16 01:23:58 <natsukao> maleware are things of late 2000 years
Apr 16 01:24:08 <natsukao> not certenly in that era
Apr 16 01:24:10 <robbiethe1st> uh
Apr 16 01:24:26 <DocScrutinizer05> natsukao: last warning!
Apr 16 01:24:52 <DocScrutinizer05>         tput cl
Apr 16 01:24:54 <DocScrutinizer05>         exec /storage/sdcard0/Download/$x $a
Apr 16 01:24:56 <DocScrutinizer05> SUUUURE
Apr 16 01:26:24 <robbiethe1st> Isn't it basically just a 'wrapper' which executes the command line argument given in the given folder( /storage/sdcard0/Download/ ) on android
Apr 16 01:26:44 <robbiethe1st> and if the file doesn't exist, echos a couple of silly lines
Apr 16 01:26:51 <DocScrutinizer05> yes
Apr 16 01:27:00 <natsukao> because on the mobile phone, that i have had, there was not other way
Apr 16 01:27:39 <robbiethe1st> It looks like something silly and useless from what... 93? when someone might have thought it funny
Apr 16 01:27:42 <natsukao> as i said anyone is free to modify so that can use on his own architecture as he/she prefeers
Apr 16 01:27:53 <robbiethe1st> harmful? I don't see any problems with it.
Apr 16 01:28:00 <robbiethe1st> But I don't see any need to use it either
Apr 16 01:28:11 <natsukao> on my mobile phone there was
Apr 16 01:28:23 <DocScrutinizer05> it's a part of an obviously dangerous package
Apr 16 01:29:01 <DocScrutinizer05> and it for sure won't result in anything funny or useful
Apr 16 01:29:18 <natsukao> basename is part of OpenBSD or of NetBSD, and is available in the directory /games
Apr 16 01:29:36 <DocScrutinizer05> absolutely last warning!
Apr 16 01:29:53 <DocScrutinizer05> take it elsewhere
Apr 16 01:30:18 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly nobody in here needs lessons what's basename(1)
Apr 16 01:30:47 <natsukao> i used on Nokia 770, and it works, on GNU/linux gNewSense Deltah 2.3 linux kernel version 2.6.24-32 works fine 
Apr 16 01:31:04 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, sorry
Apr 16 01:31:20 <robbiethe1st> to be fair... http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/bsdgames
Apr 16 01:32:20 <natsukao> if don't like what i type, you are free don't reply, 
Apr 16 01:32:29 <DocScrutinizer05> might install to /storage/sdcard0/Download/
Apr 16 01:32:36 <DocScrutinizer05> if N900 has such dir
Apr 16 01:32:50 <natsukao> who are you to tell people what to type or not to type ?
Apr 16 01:32:56 <DocScrutinizer05> natsukao: you've been warned twice to stop
Apr 16 01:33:20 <natsukao> I° Amendament of American Constitution defends Freedom Of Speech
Apr 16 01:33:45 <robbiethe1st> alright, that got stupid
Apr 16 01:34:26 <robbiethe1st> On the other hand, package `bsdgames` in debian, indeed has that excecutable - /usr/games/wargames, which is almost the same.
Apr 16 01:34:37 <DocScrutinizer05> I guess he's 12 y old
Apr 16 01:35:02 <DocScrutinizer05> robbiethe1st: possibly, but that appearance been too stupid
Apr 16 01:35:46 <DocScrutinizer05> and when I hear exec /storage/sdcard0/Download/$x then my heuristics for malware shout ALARM!!!!
Apr 16 01:36:27 <robbiethe1st> True
Apr 16 01:36:59 <robbiethe1st> also: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/apr/14/new-banksy-mural-near-gchq-depicts-agents-listening-in-on-phone-box
Apr 16 01:39:14 <DocScrutinizer05> (alarm) particularly when some hacker with tongue in cheek named the whole thing "wargames"
Apr 16 01:39:46 <DocScrutinizer05> which is all about backdoors and stuff
Apr 16 01:40:18 <DocScrutinizer05> and intrusion, and computers going evil
Apr 16 01:40:20 <natsukao_> Paper of Human Rights defends Freedom Of Speech with 5 Article, Italian Consitution defends Freedom Of Speech with article 21 
Apr 16 01:40:27 <DocScrutinizer05> dang!!!
Apr 16 01:40:49 <natsukao_> as i just said i have not developed it, i only modified few rows
Apr 16 01:41:08 <DocScrutinizer05> those articles don't apply to irc channels
Apr 16 01:49:24 <DocScrutinizer05> robbiethe1st: next thing he suggests is: you need to have uSD card in android phone and then isntall package BSD-foobar there. Then swap uSD to Nokia phone and copy the script from pastebin. Then it works!! I swear!1!11
Apr 16 01:50:05 <robbiethe1st> hm
Apr 16 01:50:42 <DocScrutinizer05> wgich of course it still doesn't since on maemo there's no /storage/
Apr 16 01:51:48 <DocScrutinizer05> but eventually he manages to talk other users into running completely untested possibly rogue stuff on their devices
Apr 16 01:56:17 <DocScrutinizer05> well, maybe on 770 maemo there actually been storage, dunno
Apr 16 01:57:35 <DocScrutinizer05> can't even recall the name of 770 maemo. Bora?
Apr 16 01:58:41 <robbiethe1st> os2005, os2006
Apr 16 01:58:54 <robbiethe1st> I've got one around somewhere
Apr 16 01:59:03 <DocScrutinizer05> mhm
Apr 16 01:59:11 <robbiethe1st> even worked, last I checked... but too slow to do much
Apr 16 01:59:45 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames
Apr 16 02:00:28 <DocScrutinizer05> so Mistral, if anything
Apr 16 02:00:53 <DocScrutinizer05> Scirocco, or Gregale
Apr 16 02:01:02 <robbiethe1st> yeah
Apr 16 02:09:48 * DocScrutinizer05 suddenly recalls the "spare parts for Nokia N9-00" hits when searching the web
Apr 16 02:10:09 <DocScrutinizer05> :-o
Apr 16 02:11:16 <DocScrutinizer05> I also wonder what's the current pricetaf for mint condition N950
Apr 16 02:11:23 <DocScrutinizer05> pricetag*
Apr 16 02:14:04 <DocScrutinizer05> ... /storage/sdcard0/Download/$x - TZZ
Apr 16 02:15:32 <DocScrutinizer05> I guess without a +x you can't even exec such stuff, and for a +x the sdcard would need sth other than VFAT
Apr 16 02:16:45 <DocScrutinizer05> but yeah, a mkdir -p /storage/sdcard0/Download/ for sure would work - until your rootfs is eaten by the crap
Apr 16 02:32:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, there's a section about Nokia, which uses /usr/bin/games/ or somesuch instead of that /storage/sdcard....
Apr 16 02:32:55 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, whatever, 20 year old silly script, and no usefull instructions either
Apr 16 02:33:22 <robbiethe1st> It's designed as a launcher for a bunch of other text games
Apr 16 02:33:25 <robbiethe1st> from 20 years ago
Apr 16 02:33:28 <DocScrutinizer05> yes
Apr 16 02:33:29 <robbiethe1st> see the bsdgames package
Apr 16 02:33:40 <DocScrutinizer05> the idea is to answer "chess", not "yes"
Apr 16 02:34:34 <DocScrutinizer05> but that would require "chess" binary to be installed in /usr/bin/games/ or whateveritwas
Apr 16 02:34:48 <robbiethe1st> yes
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