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May 02 10:27:05 <Apic> A wonderful splendid good Morning (UGT) on this gorgeous Boomtime!
May 02 13:08:16 <DocScrutinizer05> cmd: Today is Boomtime, the 49th day of Discord in the YOLD 3180
May 02 13:08:33 <DocScrutinizer05> same to you, Apic
May 02 13:40:50 <antithesis> Why does the n900 run out of power so quickly even when I'm not using the device?
May 02 13:40:56 <antithesis> And what can I do to prevent this?
May 02 13:43:53 <bencoh> check your widgets
May 02 13:47:09 <antithesis> The only thing I leave open is an xterm window. Surely that can do no harm?
May 02 13:48:07 <bencoh> it shouldnt
May 02 13:48:14 <bencoh> (shouldnt do much harm)
May 02 13:48:24 <bencoh> no desktop widget ?
May 02 13:51:13 <antithesis> There were the default ones
May 02 13:51:19 <antithesis> Nothing else
May 02 13:51:26 <bencoh> I'd disable those
May 02 13:51:29 <bencoh> and try again
May 02 14:01:18 <antithesis> kk
May 02 14:45:56 <DocScrutinizer05> ~power
May 02 14:45:56 <infobot> power is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption
May 02 14:48:31 <DocScrutinizer05> you either run some runaway process (some app or widget you installed. BEWARE of *patches etc), or your carrier connectivity doesn't filter garbage from coming in, which easily forces the modem to at very least NAK each inbound ping/$arbitrary-garbage packet and thus keep TX constantly eating huge amounts of power, while your whole system is idle and in  perfect shape
May 02 14:50:33 <DocScrutinizer05> "disabling" GPRS APN configuration can rule out the latter, but also obviously will cause loss of connectivity via GSM/GPRS(/$whatever-2G/3G)
May 02 14:53:08 <DocScrutinizer05> frequently this problem is seen on carriers that offer so called "wireless DSL" via a UMTS-accesspoint. For such accesspoints that offer wired and/or WLAN "normal internet" at "DSL speed" to users for usage with their PC, the requirements are that inbound traffic must not get filtered. For mobile connectivity you don't want that inbound traffic
May 02 15:39:32 <sixwheeledbeast> top zzztop or powertop will help diagnose this
May 02 15:39:39 <sixwheeledbeast> ~zzztop
May 02 15:39:39 <infobot> i heard zzztop is - the better and even FOSS powertop - http://wiki.maemo.org/Zzztop
May 02 15:58:58 <Maxdamantus> `root; cd /usr/local/bin` doesn't do what whoever wrote that page probably thought it did.
May 02 17:00:13 <DocScrutinizer05> Maxdamantus: well, that's why it's deprecated ;-)
May 02 17:13:28 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm sure the one who wrote it been aware that it doesn't do what it seems to do
May 02 19:55:58 <wizbit> wow
May 02 19:56:08 <wizbit> inserted sd card on n900 now this shows:
May 02 19:56:08 <wizbit> /dev/mmcblk1p1           29.7G    256.0k     29.7G   0% /media/mmc1
May 02 19:56:10 <wizbit> :D
May 02 19:56:39 <jdoles> Do you also get laughed at for using an n900? 
May 02 19:57:09 <wizbit> some people think its a old calculator, little do they know...
May 02 19:57:14 <wizbit> at least it wont get stolen :D
May 02 19:57:28 <wizbit> this x10000 more powerful than the latest iphone
May 02 19:57:33 <jdoles> wizbit: yeah, that's also an advantage; it's almost worthless on the black market.
May 02 19:57:51 <wmarone_> wizbit: from some perspectives yes
May 02 19:57:53 <antithesis> When I turn off the screen of my n900, it vibrates. Does anyone know how to turn that off?
May 02 19:58:29 <wizbit> its more powerful because you have freedom
May 02 19:58:41 <jdoles> wizbit: you don't actually have absolute freedom either. 
May 02 19:58:53 <wizbit> well, no totally, but nearly
May 02 19:59:08 <wizbit> can the hardware drivers become opensource
May 02 19:59:17 <wizbit> or are they nokia blobs
May 02 19:59:27 <jdoles> wizbit: there is a new motherboard available for which more is open-source.
May 02 19:59:32 <wizbit> yep
May 02 19:59:33 <wizbit> neo900
May 02 19:59:38 <wizbit> that will be my future upgrade
May 02 20:00:17 <wizbit> will the neo900 still run maemo 5
May 02 20:00:23 <jdoles> I think all these phones don't actually raise productivity. 
May 02 20:00:36 <jdoles> It makes you a mindless drone consuming stupid news.
May 02 20:01:01 <wizbit> what is the best way to utilize /dev/mmcblk1p1           29.7G    256.0k     29.7G   0% /media/mmc1
May 02 20:01:15 <wizbit> shuld i symlink .sounds or .videos
May 02 20:01:18 <wizbit> *should
May 02 20:01:44 <jdoles> It's nice that you can be called when you are out of the office, but otherwise, it might even be a net loss if you count everything.
May 02 20:04:37 <jdoles> What's still effectively left of Nokia after Microsoft? 
May 02 20:04:55 <jdoles> They still have tons of employees, but what are they actually doing?
May 02 20:06:11 <wizbit> dunno?!
May 02 20:06:19 <wizbit> did nokia release mameo6
May 02 20:06:48 <wmarone_> you can think of harmattan as maemo6 I suppose
May 02 20:07:06 <wizbit> will that be supported in the future
May 02 20:07:12 <wizbit> like CSSU
May 02 20:07:25 <wmarone_> doubtful
May 02 20:07:35 <wmarone_> harmattan was less open than Maemo 5
May 02 20:07:39 <wizbit> eek
May 02 20:07:53 <wmarone_> i'd rather migrate off to Nemo Mobile
May 02 20:07:57 <wizbit> id like to install slackware on my n900 :D
May 02 20:39:00 <Anz_> antithesis: did you have a mode that alerted (via vibration) when you lock.tje screen while cam lense is open?
May 02 20:39:45 <antithesis> Anz_ yes, and guess what... the cam lense was open
May 02 20:39:46 <antithesis> lol
May 02 20:40:37 <Anz_> lol saw your message  just now only. it was on of my fav settings on n900
May 02 20:41:22 <Anz_> and the vibrate when tje call is connected
May 02 20:42:11 <Anz_> now just hoping and waiting such features will come to Jolla too. :)
May 02 21:22:54 <antithesis> Why is the n900 so sexy? :)
May 02 21:23:08 <antithesis> I get a boner just from typing on it
May 02 23:30:15 <Psi_> ya think the n900 would capture video ok with eazycap and USB host mode?
May 03 00:07:09 <hxka> afaik there are a lot of different devices that called "easycap"
May 03 00:07:21 <Psi_> yeah
May 03 00:07:48 <hxka> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Easycap
May 03 00:07:49 <Psi_> this one is Empia EasyCAP (USB 2861 Device when in windows)
May 03 00:08:24 <Psi_> im not getting its usb device when i go lsusb
May 03 00:08:41 <Psi_> but the device is getting warm and i have tested a USB keyboard module on my n900 in host mode and that works fine
May 03 00:10:03 <hxka> kernel-power doesn't have any em28xx models, so that's not a big surprise
May 03 00:10:11 <Psi_> true
May 03 00:10:36 * Psi_ goes looking for easy to install n900 kernels with the drive
May 03 00:13:45 <hxka> though aiui lsusb should show connected device regardless of whether it is supported by kernel, so it probably requires more power than n900 can give (0.2 A iirc)
May 03 00:14:38 <Psi_> i had a look at the USB current being drawn by the eazycap in device managoer on windows and it said 96mA
May 03 00:22:14 <Psi_> looks like v4l driver needs kernel 2.6.31 or newer 
May 03 00:22:34 <Psi_> which i dont see available in working state for n900
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