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May 17 14:30:41 <FIQ> this might be the wrong place
May 17 14:30:50 <FIQ> but whoever designed the "wrong password" screen?
May 17 14:31:14 <FIQ> http://home.fiq.se/tmofail.png
May 17 14:46:20 <kerio> here
May 17 14:50:14 <hxka> http://i.imgur.com/9DUc08Q.png
May 17 14:50:51 <hxka> Probably the problem of the theme you selected
May 17 14:56:20 <hxka> http://i.imgur.com/019BoiU.png Yes indeed, dark text on dark background is very readable
May 17 15:01:30 <sixwheeledbeast> lol, hidden in plain sight
May 17 15:41:06 <wizbit> anybody know of a decent twitter app to run on maemo?
May 17 15:41:17 <DocScrutinizer05> haha, had a discussion about the problem at #kde recently
May 17 15:41:39 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: ^^^
May 17 15:41:56 <DocScrutinizer05> or was it #qi-hw?
May 17 15:42:07 <sixwheeledbeast> :nod:
May 17 15:42:52 <DocScrutinizer05> web "designers" taking assumptions about foreground/background color that are not valid
May 17 15:43:07 <sixwheeledbeast> wizbit: I believe there is currently only one working twitter application. None of the others have been updated to new API
May 17 15:44:18 <wizbit> sixwheeledbeast: do you know the name of it by any chance?
May 17 15:44:57 <wizbit> im also looking for a google+ client
May 17 15:45:08 <wizbit> im about to enter the world of 'social networking' :/
May 17 15:45:28 <sixwheeledbeast> wizbit: hmmm, I don't use it but that's what I recall from hanging about and reading TMO regularly. Let me have a quick look
May 17 15:45:39 <sixwheeledbeast> feck social networking. I go the pub
May 17 15:46:46 <wizbit> i dont like real humans 
May 17 15:47:08 <sixwheeledbeast> DocScrutinizer05: I'd expect the themes to change the text to grey myself
May 17 15:47:29 <sixwheeledbeast> talk to infobot then
May 17 15:47:34 <sixwheeledbeast> ~botsnack
May 17 15:47:35 <infobot> :), sixwheeledbeast
May 17 15:49:58 <DocScrutinizer05> ~coffee wizbit
May 17 15:49:58 * infobot steals some of Xjs|moonshine's special coffee and gives it to wizbit on a silver platter.
May 17 15:51:14 <sixwheeledbeast> wizbit: TwimGo seems to be one of the ones I recall working
May 17 15:51:14 <wizbit> google+ runs perfect on opera :D
May 17 15:51:16 <wizbit> just tested
May 17 15:51:21 <wizbit> sixwheeledbeast: ace :D
May 17 15:52:11 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: yeah, but alas there seem to be several rather insane combinations of presets, forced presets in browser, forground/background color definitions and all sorts of background not created by browser (image background etc). Then we also get transparency to make things worse
May 17 15:53:32 <sixwheeledbeast> wizbit after then maybe try Rocket and Tweetian but I think recall some issue with them.
May 17 15:53:36 <DocScrutinizer05> a "color" defines as offset to the particular background pixel's color would be a real nice-to-have
May 17 15:54:05 <DocScrutinizer05> alas it seems that exists only for highlighting text
May 17 15:54:26 <DocScrutinizer05> and then only for both fg *and* bg
May 17 15:56:05 <sixwheeledbeast> I suspect the issue is the combination of "Maemo" style on top of BB presets.
May 17 15:56:44 <sixwheeledbeast> they where never potentially never tested together
May 17 15:58:05 <DocScrutinizer05> :nod:
May 17 15:58:47 * DocScrutinizer05 uses non-maemo-theme since years, can't stand the maemo layout
May 17 16:00:09 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/17/plasma-desktopz31889.png
May 17 16:00:33 * sixwheeledbeast actually likes the Maemo theme
May 17 16:01:47 <DocScrutinizer05> too much waste of space for those newsfeeds at right side
May 17 16:03:56 <DocScrutinizer05> "-classic light -" is more like what I appreciate
May 17 16:10:54 <sixwheeledbeast> waste of space ... I have a wide screen ;)
May 17 16:13:13 <kerio> oh man
May 17 16:13:16 <kerio> free linux fonts are awful
May 17 16:17:16 <kerio> also, your screen is so tiny :3
May 17 16:17:37 <kerio> http://acehack.de/~kerio/screen.png for comparison
May 17 16:28:15 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, my screen is large enough, and the resolution is just fine for the distance/size ratio
May 17 16:28:37 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd rather get a second monitor than a larger one
May 17 16:29:42 <kerio> but... m-muh dpis
May 17 16:31:44 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, great. Recent report in c't mag about 4k screens: "get your hand lens! No OS is really capable to consistently display reasonably sized fonts and icons on those"
May 17 16:34:19 <DocScrutinizer05> and I got 180% vision, according to optician
May 17 16:35:57 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: os x does
May 17 16:36:10 <kerio> because programs that don't are just scaled
May 17 16:36:18 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh great
May 17 16:36:30 <kerio> so far, the only one that i found that doesn't is mumble
May 17 16:37:56 <DocScrutinizer05> I really don't need all that, actually I don't _want_ it
May 17 16:38:15 <kerio> it's so fucking pretty tho :3
May 17 16:38:34 <DocScrutinizer05> I hate pretty
May 17 16:38:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I want friggin functional and geeky
May 17 16:39:16 <DocScrutinizer05> I still use classical menu
May 17 16:39:57 <DocScrutinizer05> and I don't even understand what's "activities" in that plasma annoyance and where desktop vanished to
May 17 16:40:45 <DocScrutinizer05> I have no freaking animations when closing windows
May 17 16:41:31 <DocScrutinizer05> and no 3D-taskbar that looks like designed by Jobs on LSD
May 17 16:42:04 <DocScrutinizer05> oh, it *is* "designed by Jobs"
May 17 16:42:51 <DocScrutinizer05> my windows deco looks more like windows95 than like MacOS
May 17 16:43:31 <DocScrutinizer05> and I hardly can think of any app I'd use in a window that's not mximized
May 17 16:43:44 <DocScrutinizer05> maximized
May 17 16:45:04 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't want that mesh up of appstarter and taskbar so you never clearly see if an app is already started or not
May 17 16:46:05 <DocScrutinizer05> and generally I tend to operate my PC rather with kbd than with mouse
May 17 16:47:20 <DocScrutinizer05> alt-tab is the most used key-combo
May 17 16:48:24 <DocScrutinizer05> if it wasn't for text highlighting in browser windows (for c&p) I'd probably get rid of mouse
May 17 16:52:27 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm not exactly like rasterman Carsten Haizler who basically just has 20 small xterm windows with tiny fontsize white-on-black on a all black and empty desktop. But almost
May 17 16:53:46 <DocScrutinizer05> actually I can't recall when I last seen my desktop - or just a part of it
May 17 16:54:15 <DocScrutinizer05> aaah, on "screen 2" there it is
May 17 16:54:28 <DocScrutinizer05> green and all empty ;-D
May 17 16:55:08 <DocScrutinizer05> id that's still the desktop in KDE4 with that plasma rubbish
May 17 16:55:13 <DocScrutinizer05> if*
May 17 18:19:04 <sixwheeledbeast> scroll wheel surely everyone uses the scroll wheel lots. I know I do
May 17 18:34:08 <DocScrutinizer05> yes, I do too, particularly since I got MX Revolution
May 17 18:34:53 <DocScrutinizer05> in automatic free spinning mode, with a threshold of ~8clicks/s to switch to free spinning
May 17 18:35:32 <DocScrutinizer05> it's the greatest thing since sliced bread
May 17 18:37:29 <DocScrutinizer05> and the reason why I got me two new MX5000 a year ago (does anybody need a bt kbd, or two? really nifty stuff with LCD display, counter, thermometer, macro keys...)
May 17 18:38:05 <DocScrutinizer05> beeper!
May 17 18:38:55 <DocScrutinizer05> and batteries last for at least 2 years idle
May 17 18:40:51 <DocScrutinizer05> oops, MX5500
May 17 18:43:33 <DocScrutinizer05> for a number of reasons I prefer a different kbd, which doesn't mean MX5500 kbd are bad
May 17 20:21:07 <sixwheeledbeast> well you can't bin the mouse and keep your scroll wheel ;)
May 17 22:46:37 <hxka> There are keyboards with a builtin trackball. I think it's possible to remap it as a scrollwheel.
May 18 00:07:47 <zGrr> moin :)
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