**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 28 02:59:59 2014 May 28 03:31:59 has anyone used SHR May 28 03:32:32 yes, dos1 May 28 03:32:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI May 28 03:32:47 what? May 28 03:33:01 do you ask that every day at this time? :-) May 28 03:34:20 I don't think so May 28 03:34:35 [2014-05-27 Tue 05:20:08] has anyone here tried SHR? May 28 03:34:46 [2014-05-27 Tue 06:50:20] yes, dos1 May 28 03:34:47 [2014-05-27 Tue 06:51:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI May 28 03:34:49 that was a different time May 28 03:34:55 :D May 28 03:35:09 yeah, you're not very precise May 28 03:36:01 also I left, it seemed like you were talking to dos1 May 28 03:36:42 that video doesn't show it making calls or doing any phone stuff May 28 03:36:44 indeed May 28 03:37:05 err, yep. But it does May 28 03:37:27 at least supposed to do May 28 03:37:53 dos1: ^^^ May 28 03:38:34 when you're lucky, he will answer in a few hours May 28 03:39:03 said n8 a 2h ago May 28 03:40:14 anywy SHR is supposed to be one of the supported OS for Neo900 May 28 03:57:59 but also the n900 which is the only phone I have? May 28 04:05:37 I don't know about current status of phonecall audio May 28 04:06:25 searchword: cmtspeech May 28 04:06:39 a tad tricky May 28 04:08:07 the CPU is master for the audio PCM, but modem sends timing messages to CPU so the actually PCM clock speed stays in sync with the GSM voice datarate May 28 04:10:50 last time I looked into it was when I helped design the double-headed buffer for that, to plumb the linux land audio clock domain to the modem audio timing May 28 04:11:18 and that's been quite some time ago, dunno the results of that May 28 05:18:27 "recalculating pi"? May 28 05:23:27 If I want audio files copied from my computer to show up in Media Player, where do I copy them on the N900? There's .sounds/ and .video/ but no .music/ May 28 05:23:59 I think you're meant to be able to put them anywhere. May 28 05:24:12 then the indexer thing's meant to find them. May 28 05:25:53 hmm well Media Player is showing May 28 05:26:13 hmm well Media Player is showing "no songs" after copying some songs and restarting the application May 28 05:28:13 Ah. Look at ~/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg May 28 05:28:18 That has the paths it searches in. May 28 05:38:07 ok thats illuminating... still not working though. Looking at my MyDocs folder via xterm on my N900, I don't see anything (just DCIM). But in /media/Nokia\ N900/ on my computer, there's quite a lot of stuff, including the music I'm trying to load on. Any idea where this descrepency is coming from? May 28 05:51:54 bleb: is it still plugged in using USB? May 28 05:52:18 bleb: only one of the N900 or your computer can use the MyDocs filesystem at a time. May 28 05:52:33 bleb: when you plug it into USB, the N900 unmounts it from itself so the computer can use it. May 28 05:54:34 * Maxdamantus wonders when there's going to be a proper mainstream general-purpose filesystem suitable for USB. May 28 05:54:51 well, when there's going to be one in use. May 28 05:55:03 (MTP doesn't count) May 28 05:56:25 You'd think at least Google would be interested in promoting something. May 28 06:43:09 A wonderful splendid good Morning (UGT)! May 28 11:09:26 the game super tux, as ported to the maemo5 OS, does tux actually say "TUXONICE!" when starting every level? May 28 11:09:47 I just realized that might be what tux is saying May 28 11:10:36 working on a tuxonice-kernel for my gentoo machine. would be awesome to have a nokia n900 with tuxonice on May 28 11:10:41 could be possible May 28 11:12:50 arvut: you might be better off in #maemo-ssu May 28 13:42:28 why #maemo-ssu? this is not exactly CSSU related, no? May 28 15:03:22 Maxdamantus: sorry I left you hanging - had to go to bed. Anyways disconnecting the N900 from the USB port seems to work, allowing me to transfer data/songs to my N900 at last. (I thought I had tried it already but maybe I just unmounted it and didn't physically disconnect my N900). Thanks a lot! May 28 15:03:58 np May 28 15:04:36 * Maxdamantus has g_ether always loaded so it doesn't unmount anything. May 28 15:05:01 * Maxdamantus has everything on a single partition anyway. May 28 15:50:34 so neo900 has been canceled? May 28 15:57:58 wait what May 28 15:57:59 why? May 28 15:59:15 WTF? May 28 15:59:20 I don't think so... May 28 16:13:37 huh? May 28 16:37:57 I got a mail May 28 16:38:36 they want to refund my money May 28 16:46:20 perhaps you should read your emails May 28 16:47:13 I did May 28 16:47:14 The orders Golden Delicious Computers (GDC) has received have to May 28 16:47:14 be "rolled back". Since the "roll back" voids your agreement with GDC, May 28 16:47:15 all those who sent 100 EUR or more get a refund. May 28 16:57:05 Defiant: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93197 May 28 16:59:28 so another stick to beat Doc with? the F/OSS community certainly seems to have a self-destruct button ready for every small disagreement in viewpoints; see fk_lx vs jolla for another ongoing "mountain out of molehill" May 28 17:00:24 sorry I don't get it, the mail speaks only about refund May 28 17:04:11 http://neo900.org/news-0011-progress-update-may May 28 17:49:56 hi May 28 17:50:39 any1 online? May 28 17:51:41 ~ask May 28 17:51:42 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. May 28 17:51:43 my n900 only charges when it's connected to a computer, not from a power only usb connection. is that normal / can it be fixed? May 28 17:52:23 honestly: what is "power only usb connection"? May 28 17:52:47 usb power adapters May 28 17:53:32 like the wall wart that comes with most android phones May 28 17:53:49 i've restored rootfs and optfs from pwnphone backups, also installed it correctly (not from the mmc tho). I've created a symlink /media/mmc1/pwnimage -> /home/user/MyDocs/pwnimage. That was my error. Now the phone wont boot up, ir rebbots on Nokia screen constantly. Do I have to reflash the phone? May 28 17:54:11 boot menu wont start also May 28 17:54:18 honestly: two possible things - either d+/d- are not shortened or n900 tries to draw more current than the charger can provide May 28 17:54:34 so overcurrent protection cicks in May 28 17:54:38 *kicks May 28 17:54:46 this one is rated 2A May 28 17:55:02 and it has never worked on anything i tried May 28 17:55:24 i guess i should try taking a usb cable and shorting those pins? May 28 17:55:48 the phone also tries to boot up after connecting to any power source. but it fails every time. May 28 17:56:12 ant_: what kernel is supposed that "pwnphone backups" to boot? May 28 17:56:31 (do you mean shortcircuiting when you say shortening?) May 28 17:56:59 honestly: did you try with Nokia ac100 adapter? May 28 17:57:03 that might be it. I have installed powerkernel before installing pwnphone. Althought I believe it installs it owns kernel with packet injection etc. May 28 17:57:17 i don't have a nokia adapter May 28 17:57:23 so no. May 28 17:57:44 ant_: but what kernel is flashed? does it have the needed modules in the rootfs you've restored? May 28 17:58:27 How should I check it If Iam not able to do anything with the phone? May 28 17:59:09 honestly: you'd better find some original nokia charger May 28 18:00:01 freemangordon: i need a car charger, when i have mains power i also have a running computer to plug it into (: May 28 18:00:18 ant_: I guess you can somehow mount the rootfs image and check what is in /lib/modules. and flash the appropriate kernel with flasher3.5 May 28 18:00:20 are there chargers from nokia for that? May 28 18:00:23 yes May 28 18:00:34 ac35??? lemme check May 28 18:02:19 freemangordon: I can only see whats in the package I have on my hdd. I cant mount the n900 anyhow (or please tell me how) May 28 18:02:39 thanks, i'll find it myself whenever i'm back from this vacation :D May 28 18:03:26 having a good cable and supply is paramount... so many bad cables around... May 28 18:03:47 "good cable"? May 28 18:04:49 I had like 4 different microusb cables that simply doesn't charge quickly... and found three or four that will charge at high rate to the same USB port May 28 18:04:58 okay May 28 18:05:45 ant_: May 28 18:05:48 ~rescueos May 28 18:05:51 rumour has it, rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ May 28 18:06:24 ant_: you can mount rootfs within it May 28 18:06:32 those $1 store wall plug to USB adaptors are miserable. The $1 store car chargers work fine however. May 28 18:07:00 ecc3g: they provide 1200+ mA? May 28 18:07:03 yeah i think i'll build myself an adapter with shorted pins May 28 18:07:43 19:54:46 < honestly> this one is rated 2A May 28 18:07:46 (: May 28 18:07:55 I think if it will supply at least 700mA, I'm happy... and they do... May 28 18:08:14 the trouble are the ones that can't even do 500mA May 28 18:08:38 well it's just a direct connection to the car's 12V bus, with a fuse or two inbetween if you're lucky. May 28 18:08:39 also what's printed is nowhere near what it actually provides... May 28 18:08:49 and a step-down converter. May 28 18:08:53 ok so should i rip the im on the pendrive/cd and boot whole machine from the image? May 28 18:09:13 img* May 28 18:09:35 ok the documentation says everything I hope May 28 18:09:37 thanks May 28 18:09:56 there aren't many ways to do that wrong unless you use a really bad voltage converter May 28 18:10:05 ant_: no, you just boot rescueos with flsher May 28 18:10:39 I have exactly one wall wart that charges my n900 at high speed. ANd it's not even my AC10C May 28 18:11:10 that said i'd love to pull this thing apart, look at the circuit, and maybe look up the specs of the converter May 28 18:11:25 ecc3g: 700 mA is simply not enough, n900 easily jumps above 1A while charging May 28 18:12:14 while being used ofc May 28 18:12:20 700mA is good enough to maintain charging. As long as you're not using it at the same time May 28 18:12:27 yeah May 28 18:12:43 hmm, wait May 28 18:13:04 fastcharge is ~800 mA IIRC May 28 18:13:08 there's no reason to stop charging if the charge current is small, unless of course the charge current is less than the phone draws. May 28 18:13:14 it's close enough. May 28 18:13:29 I think the official charger is 1A May 28 18:13:34 1.2A May 28 18:13:47 any trusted sites for newest flasher for mac os then? May 28 18:13:58 and my usb port is loose ): May 28 18:14:07 the official charger is 1.2A. My "official" charger won't do more than 400mA or so... it's broken. May 28 18:14:16 http://maemo.org/news/announcements/maemo_flasher-3-5_tool_beta_for_fremantle_and_diablo_released/ this? May 28 18:14:59 does not work May 28 18:15:15 I had issues trying to flash with OSX ant_, can't remember if I was flashing n9/n900, had better luck with the windows/linux flasher May 28 18:15:41 ill try with windows when I get home then. thank you all May 28 18:17:12 ant_: try to google for the flasher May 28 18:17:15 ~flasher May 28 18:17:15 [flasher] at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ May 28 18:19:47 yeah sure running utrusted execs is ro really cool May 28 18:20:44 dont ever do that. but thanks :-) May 28 18:21:12 there are mirrors for the flasher, you can check md5sums May 28 18:21:22 but when I tried it on a recent OSX it didn't work May 28 18:23:18 ant_: as bef0rd said - you can check md5 sums May 28 18:25:13 ant_: http://blog.omgmog.net/post/factory-reset-nokia-n900-from-a-mac/ May 28 18:25:50 I've seen it, have mavericks thought :-) May 28 18:26:10 thats the page where I have found #mameo info :-) May 28 18:26:36 just didnt know thats the only way, I thought its possible to boot with some special key or smth May 28 18:29:33 i will try in 2-3h bbl :-) thanks again May 28 18:35:15 sure May 28 18:48:30 trouble with maemo, there is no company behind it anymore... have to trust community... May 28 18:52:56 ecc3g: isn't it better? May 28 18:57:40 haha macos may have problems with converting hfs to ext May 28 18:58:19 ok so reinstalling rootfs from flasher is not a problem right? May 28 18:59:04 sure May 28 18:59:16 or rather "flashing" May 28 18:59:28 yeah ok May 28 18:59:43 my archive might be corrupted May 28 18:59:50 ant_: oh, you were afraid your device is bricked? May 28 19:00:05 but the boot menu said it was completed succesfully May 28 19:00:35 ant_: there is no way to brick n900 given the USB port is intact May 28 19:00:39 more like I was pissed of I will miss some time till I finish ;/ May 28 19:01:02 loose* May 28 19:33:25 /wi/window 8 May 28 19:33:28 whops May 28 21:11:27 hmm...what usb 802.11 USB drivers are available in power kernel... May 29 00:25:22 freemangordon: my rootfs is in .tar :-) May 29 00:25:30 I have to install it throught the boot menu May 29 02:49:07 A wonderful splendid nifty Ascension Day Morning (UGT) to You all! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 29 03:00:00 2014