**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 19 02:59:59 2014
Jun 19 07:03:07 <sixwheeledbeast> well you did say that's where maemo factiods should be :)
Jun 19 08:12:20 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: absolutely OK :-)
Jun 19 08:12:57 <DocScrutinizer05> though chance for a collision with any other namespace is pretty low for famvsham
Jun 19 09:12:58 <DocScrutinizer05> anybody from the land of unlimited impossibilities, the USA, around?
Jun 19 09:28:28 <Gh0sty> lol
Jun 19 09:54:24 <DocScrutinizer05> nm, found in the webs that your banking system is quite different to the rest of the world and some "banks" simply seem to not allow money orders to *anybody* and particularly not European bank accounts
Jun 19 09:54:37 <DocScrutinizer05> Wells Fargo :-S
Jun 19 09:55:32 <chem|st> that is why everything is cash/check/card payed
Jun 19 10:19:17 <ShadowJK> and increasingly european banks dont deal with anything involving paper..
Jun 19 10:33:10 <Gh0sty> what do you want to do DocScrutinizer05 ? 
Jun 19 10:33:14 <Gh0sty> order USD? 
Jun 19 10:34:29 <DocScrutinizer05> Gh0sty: my EU based company needs to accept payments from US based customers
Jun 19 10:34:51 <Gh0sty> ah yes
Jun 19 10:34:53 <Gh0sty> that problem
Jun 19 10:35:05 <Gh0sty> we face the same with BE non-profit
Jun 19 10:35:17 <Gh0sty>  we had a bank here that also accepted USD deposits etc
Jun 19 10:35:26 <Gh0sty> but that doesnt work anymore :(
Jun 19 10:35:36 <Gh0sty> so we always loose money in the transactions which sucks
Jun 19 10:35:47 <Gh0sty> isn't it possible to open an account in the US? 
Jun 19 10:36:02 <Gh0sty> always been wondering about that as a private person too ;)
Jun 19 10:36:12 <Gh0sty> would love a bank account in the USA ... 
Jun 19 10:36:19 <Gh0sty> at least my dollars stay dollars etc
Jun 19 10:49:34 <jpinx> just charge US customers more :)
Jun 19 10:49:43 <jpinx> blame their banking system :)
Jun 19 10:53:40 <kerio> charge them bitcoins
Jun 19 10:53:47 <kerio> it can't go wrong
Jun 19 11:06:11 <jpinx> careful -- didn't the US Marshall service just screw up something about bitcoins ?
Jun 19 11:07:11 <jpinx> I'm serious about charging customers more if it costs more to administer their banking arrangements.  I always did that when I was in business 
Jun 19 11:25:28 <Gh0sty> I think most do it anyway
Jun 19 11:25:32 <Gh0sty> they do it also I think 
Jun 19 11:27:17 <jpinx> it might not be allowed to pass on credit card charges/commissions, but there's nothing illegal about and admin charge 
Jun 19 11:47:30 <DocScrutinizer05> BM -> maemo-extras
Jun 19 11:47:40 <DocScrutinizer05> \o/
Jun 19 15:17:23 <DocScrutinizer51> hi friends, OT SOS. Please help! My GF used that old hooker800 I got from Nokia and now she wants to save the contacts to her PC. (How) Can this be done - at all?
Jun 19 15:19:22 <Snafu777> wtf...
Jun 19 15:23:06 <DocScrutinizer51> indeed wtf
Jun 19 15:23:33 <joga> ...what's hooker800?
Jun 19 15:24:00 <joga> lumia? :p
Jun 19 15:24:19 <joga> never used one really...
Jun 19 15:25:49 <DocScrutinizer51> lumia == hooker
Jun 19 15:25:57 <DocScrutinizer51> spanish
Jun 19 15:27:29 <DocScrutinizer51> the interweb: "win7 stores contacts .... in the cloud. Storing locally works only with win8 (and that's not available for hooker800)"
Jun 19 15:28:44 <Snafu777> DocScrutinizer51: Is there not an option to export contacts with the lumia?
Jun 19 15:29:06 <DocScrutinizer51> none I found
Jun 19 15:29:25 <Snafu777> http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-7/196084-export-contacts-lumia-800-a.html
Jun 19 15:29:33 <DocScrutinizer51> winphone is pure nausea
Jun 19 15:30:11 <Snafu777> Sync your contacts with Windows Live and then go to this website on your PC:
Jun 19 15:30:13 <Snafu777> http://contacts.live.com
Jun 19 15:30:15 <Snafu777> ?
Jun 19 15:33:50 <DocScrutinizer51> yes, but she refuses to sync her contacts to the dark side. I bet you can feel with her
Jun 19 15:35:30 <peetah> errrr ... the real question would be why did she get herself a devil phone if she refuses to sync to the dark side ? (being useless here, just a rethorical question)
Jun 19 15:36:42 <DocScrutinizer51> hehe, gift by me
Jun 19 15:37:11 <peetah> that's even sicker than what I could have expected !!!!!!
Jun 19 15:38:34 <peetah> I hereby rename you EvilDocScrutinizer and go back to my own business
Jun 19 15:40:33 <bencoh> ohmy
Jun 19 15:40:44 <bencoh> DocScrutinizer51: that was mean
Jun 19 15:40:47 <bencoh> real mean ^^
Jun 19 15:43:28 <DocScrutinizer51> I gave it to her since I refused to touch it and she didn't mind. I explained her that it's evilphone
Jun 19 15:49:12 <bencoh> looks like she gained consciousness at some point
Jun 19 15:51:46 <DocScrutinizer51> yeah, now she has an android :)
Jun 19 16:02:13 <Gh0sty> no way to store that stuff on the SIM card or better on an SD card ? 
Jun 19 16:02:28 <Gh0sty> I did it like that to transfer my contacts to my work-blackberry 
Jun 19 16:02:44 <Gh0sty> not that I like that one but I exported contacts to SD card and put that one in the BB 
Jun 19 16:03:03 <Gh0sty> took some time since you have to import every single guy ... but at least it was "a" way 
Jun 19 17:00:40 <sixwheeledbeast> ~pkg
Jun 19 17:00:41 <infobot> somebody said pkg was http://maemo.org/packages/
Jun 19 17:01:55 <sixwheeledbeast> Er, so why is the latest bm version not in extras?
Jun 19 17:02:20 <DocScrutinizer05> dang, I had no idea how *bad* that hooker800 actually was when I gave it to my GF
Jun 19 17:03:03 <DocScrutinizer05> I thought it at least could syn to outlook with no problems. 
Jun 19 17:03:42 <DocScrutinizer05> but nooooo, best it might get seems to be M$ exchange server
Jun 19 17:04:03 <DocScrutinizer05> or go "cloud storage" right away
Jun 19 17:04:16 <DocScrutinizer05> friggin M$ crap
Jun 19 17:09:01 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm quite happy she broke the display and now I can do proper autopsy of this piece of c***p
Jun 19 17:55:02 * wizbit hunts for a mpd client 
Jun 19 17:56:24 <wizbit> cutempc looks like a good pick
Jun 19 18:09:51 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, only a few
Jun 19 18:11:11 <wizbit> i wonder if there is a viber client
Jun 19 18:11:55 <DocScrutinizer05> #cs voice #maemo povbot
Jun 19 18:13:14 <wizbit> dont think there is
Jun 19 18:13:17 <wizbit> doesnt matter
Jun 19 18:13:31 <wizbit> right thats it, everything is working perfectly
Jun 19 18:13:39 <wizbit> time to backup
Jun 19 18:13:47 <wizbit> then upload some media to it
Jun 19 18:14:01 <wizbit> and write a howto incase i lose it again
Jun 19 18:20:52 <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!
Jun 19 18:48:18 <lokimotive> hey
Jun 19 19:52:01 <ShadowJK> DocScrutinizer05; i started using exchange this week!
Jun 19 19:52:19 <ShadowJK> I've joined the evil dominion :)
Jun 19 19:53:27 <ShadowJK> ($boss realized there was a class of underlings escaping his memos)
Jun 19 19:59:35 <Sicelo> ShadowJK: :p
Jun 19 20:00:02 <Sicelo> what version on the server? n900 working on it?
Jun 19 20:08:35 <ShadowJK> nfi
Jun 19 20:08:41 <ShadowJK> there's a web thing, but it doesn't work
Jun 19 20:08:47 <Sicelo> OWA
Jun 19 20:08:48 <Sicelo> :p
Jun 19 20:08:55 <ShadowJK> neither does the real exchange thing, but for some reason jolla works
Jun 19 20:09:08 <ShadowJK> I've stopped carrying N900 to work, my last precious N900
Jun 19 20:09:25 <ShadowJK> or well, I leave it in the car :P
Jun 19 20:09:51 <Sicelo> still my daily, and ONLY device. too bad my USB is no longer working properly
Jun 19 20:10:14 <ShadowJK> All my previous 5-6 or so died cellmo death
Jun 19 20:11:14 <Sicelo> you have bad karma then. i do have a friend' who's N900 died that way. still convincing him to sell it to me (for the other parts)
Jun 19 20:12:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ShadowJK: I wonder if that damn hooker800 can sync to exchange (or whatever the name of what we got in linux for it)
Jun 19 20:13:15 <ShadowJK> I think WinPho and WinRT were particulary braindead in that regard
Jun 19 20:13:38 <ShadowJK> otoh, coworkers had lumias and seem to have migrated to iphone ok
Jun 19 20:13:55 <DocScrutinizer05> I got to rescue contacts from that device before it goes to the bin
Jun 19 20:14:33 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, you can migrate to whatever you like, after storing your contacts in facebook or windows live or ... BLAERGH!
Jun 19 20:14:46 <ShadowJK> Anecdotally I know some people who bought new phone from operator, walked back to operator's sales desk and wanted to return phone and cancel contract because they couldn't get contacts from old phone, and salesperson manually migrated all contacts for them :P
Jun 19 20:15:15 <DocScrutinizer05> via WinLive
Jun 19 20:16:29 <DocScrutinizer05> I guess you could do a brute force disk image via JTAG or whatever, phoenix software
Jun 19 20:16:54 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, manually
Jun 19 20:17:00 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, sounds about right
Jun 19 20:17:34 <ShadowJK> I'm not really that worried about MS anymore, they've been the evil empire, got into lots of trouble for it, started learning how to not be as evil (through bad PR, court troubles, etc), and now they're slowly realizing they aren't the big evil empire anymore, losing the "big" status, and maybe realizing they can't be fully evil anymore either
Jun 19 20:17:45 <ShadowJK> Google on the other hand ... :)
Jun 19 20:18:23 * Sicelo can't believe winphones don't do exchange. wo1
Jun 19 20:18:59 <Sicelo> will check my sister's Lumia 520 tomorrow
Jun 19 20:19:34 <ShadowJK> i think the newest ones are better?
Jun 19 22:39:17 <DocScrutinizer05> I think they _can_ do exchange. But who got an exchange server at home on his laptop? ;-P
Jun 19 22:46:32 <bencoh> I guess you could still inject a rootCA and fake an exchange server in place of M$ ... but meh :)
Jun 20 00:53:23 <snare2> Hi all! Where I can download maemo SDK inside VirtualBox VM?\
Jun 20 00:53:35 <snare2> now it is cleaning in Nokia site :(
Jun 20 01:12:00 <Maxdamantus> ~sb
Jun 20 01:12:03 <infobot> scratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB
Jun 20 01:12:07 <Maxdamantus> ^ snare2
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