**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 03 03:00:01 2014
Jul 03 04:23:05 <zGrr> moin :)
Jul 03 07:16:01 <ihme-TTilus> flashed my n900, emmc first as suggested by http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#the_complete_foolproof_procedure, flashing completed ok, but the phone did not automatically boot, it was (and still is) showing the "NOKIA" screen without backlight
Jul 03 07:16:11 <ihme-TTilus> should i try to reboot it or not?
Jul 03 07:16:49 <ihme-TTilus> (and by pressing power button long enough or just plain removing battery?)
Jul 03 07:17:43 <ihme-TTilus> i intend to flash rootfs too
Jul 03 07:18:02 <Sicelo> how long you've been on that state?
Jul 03 07:18:18 <ihme-TTilus> for like 5 minutes now
Jul 03 07:18:23 <Sicelo> reboot
Jul 03 07:18:33 <ihme-TTilus> power button?
Jul 03 07:18:57 <Sicelo> yes, if it works
Jul 03 07:20:09 <ihme-TTilus> didnt work, removing battery
Jul 03 07:20:48 <Sicelo> sure. that's fine
Jul 03 07:22:08 <ihme-TTilus> started booting just normally
Jul 03 07:22:20 <ihme-TTilus> now it shows purple bar on top of the screen
Jul 03 07:22:40 <ihme-TTilus> bunch of squares on the bar
Jul 03 07:23:10 <ihme-TTilus> just like the "no glyph for this codepoint in this font" boxes
Jul 03 07:23:32 <ihme-TTilus> nothing happening
Jul 03 07:24:22 <ihme-TTilus> ive flashed n900 couple of times (not this particular device tho) and never seen anything like this
Jul 03 07:24:27 <Sicelo> see if a second reboot doesn't help
Jul 03 07:24:58 <Sicelo> when flashing, there were no errors? and you flashed from linux or windows?
Jul 03 07:25:06 <ihme-TTilus> no, linux
Jul 03 07:26:20 <ihme-TTilus> the complete procedure http://pastie.org/private/oll4htaf2rocnucwziq
Jul 03 07:26:33 <Sicelo> why you want to flash rootfs by the way .. is it broken?
Jul 03 07:28:13 <ihme-TTilus> bought the device, just want to be sure theres no cruft left behind from the previous user
Jul 03 07:29:46 <ihme-TTilus> now it shut down just fine, that purple thingy came back
Jul 03 07:29:52 <ihme-TTilus> when rebooting
Jul 03 07:31:17 <ihme-TTilus> hmm, the previous user was a hackyish person, could this state be caused by something like him moving parts of the system to emmc and now, me reflashing the emmc (and not rootfs yet) broke it?
Jul 03 07:32:22 <ihme-TTilus> any danger of bricking the device by flashing rootfs how when it seems not to be booting properly?
Jul 03 07:39:27 <Sicelo> no.
Jul 03 07:40:04 <Sicelo> as long as you flash in the recommeneed order
Jul 03 07:40:20 <ihme-TTilus> which is emmc first, right?
Jul 03 07:40:25 <Sicelo> you may have to flash rootfs, then emmc then rootfd again
Jul 03 07:40:32 <ihme-TTilus> ok
Jul 03 08:31:35 <TTilus> after flashing rootfs it shut down itself
Jul 03 08:31:51 <TTilus> now it booted fine
Jul 03 08:32:34 <TTilus> how do i tell if i need to reflash emmc and then root again?
Jul 03 09:20:04 <chem|st> TTilus: if you flashed emmc you need to flash root again
Jul 03 09:20:29 <chem|st> usually if you have something borked you flash root-emmc-root
Jul 03 09:32:06 <kerio> it's because you don't really "flash" the emmc
Jul 03 09:32:16 <kerio> you just upload it to a working system in a special mode
Jul 03 09:32:27 <kerio> thus, it requires a mostly-working system
Jul 03 09:52:17 <TTilus> ok, so if emmc-root does not give me working system with factory default mmc contents, then i need to try root-emmc-root
Jul 03 09:52:41 <kerio> yep
Jul 03 09:52:52 <TTilus> ok thanks
Jul 03 09:55:46 <TTilus> looks like the (nokia original) battery in the busted unit is somewhat "inflated"
Jul 03 09:56:54 <TTilus> stories of exploding batteries make me feel uneasy
Jul 03 09:58:21 <kerio> you should probably buy another battery
Jul 03 09:58:31 <kerio> either a real one or one of the known good ones
Jul 03 09:58:35 <TTilus> diagnosis of the usb connector is pretty clear tho, it is physically a bit disoriented and the unit does not charge (tried with several batteries) nor does it connect to computer with usb
Jul 03 09:59:05 <kerio> that's a borked usb port, yeah
Jul 03 09:59:12 <kerio> börk börk börk
Jul 03 09:59:23 <TTilus> i have two know good batteries that work with the one known good unit
Jul 03 09:59:59 <kerio> i strongly recommend setting up uboot, to be honest
Jul 03 10:00:17 <kerio> because at that point there's no need for usb anymore
Jul 03 10:00:35 <kerio> if you don't break the bootloaders
Jul 03 10:00:52 <kerio> because if everything else fails you can just boot rescueos from uSD and fix things from there
Jul 03 10:01:00 <kerio> but then again
Jul 03 10:01:07 <kerio> if your usb port is broken, you can't safely set up uboot
Jul 03 10:01:37 <TTilus> and uboot does not really help with charging ;)
Jul 03 10:01:54 <TTilus> (if it does, i'm all ears)
Jul 03 10:13:08 <kerio> for that, you use an external charger for the battery
Jul 03 10:13:10 <kerio> and swap em
Jul 03 10:13:54 <TTilus> where do i get an external charger?
Jul 03 10:14:02 <kerio> there's one made by nokia
Jul 03 10:14:13 <kerio> otherwise... idk, ebay?
Jul 03 23:28:43 <RiD> wow that chemist message scared the hell out of me
Jul 03 23:37:47 <ShadowJK> what message
Jul 03 23:38:10 <RiD> "to be able to create new threads here, you must join the developers group" something like that.
Jul 03 23:38:48 <RiD> I'm not exactly a developer, lol. But one of my threads fits in it a tiny little bit so i went ahead. anyways, going off
Jul 04 02:00:26 <DocScrutinizer05> huh`
Jul 04 02:00:29 <DocScrutinizer05> ?
Jul 04 02:01:10 <DocScrutinizer05> we had an update on tmo. This is a dam bug, if anything
Jul 04 02:01:43 <DocScrutinizer05> would help a lot to have a better report on how to duplicate it :-/
Jul 04 02:03:04 <DocScrutinizer05> actually I wonder how everybody lerned his lesson so extremely well, to do a massive update and then leave for 4 weeks holiday
Jul 04 02:03:30 <DocScrutinizer05> there been a comic about that
Jul 04 02:04:37 <DocScrutinizer05> "chef, I did the updates. Leaving for my 4 weeks holiday now. CYA!"  "BUT! the screen is all blank!"  "don't worry, that's normal!"
Jul 04 02:05:35 <DocScrutinizer05> anybody else knowing what RiD been talking about, exactly?
Jul 04 02:06:55 <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st: ^^^^^^^ RiD ^^^^^ <RiD> "to be able to create new threads here, you must join the developers group" something like that.
Jul 04 02:08:29 <DocScrutinizer05> warfare: ^^^
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