**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 07 02:59:59 2014
Jul 07 03:27:52 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mWHRakh5Hw :-D
Jul 07 03:28:17 <DocScrutinizer05> (not me!)
Jul 07 03:28:58 <DocScrutinizer05> just re >>I need better magnifier goggles that allow a "telescope" macro view of the object<<
Jul 07 03:44:12 <DocScrutinizer05> or already ERSASCOPE!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlTV3T-JNAk
Jul 07 07:25:30 <vakkov> DocScrutinizer05, I did the usb "prevent fix" wit a hot air rework stantion and a zd-99 solder stantion
Jul 07 07:35:49 <DocScrutinizer05> i almost had used slderpaste and hot air, but then I was to lazy to open up the solder paste syringe, so I thought I'd try with classical soldering iron first
Jul 07 07:36:49 <DocScrutinizer05> which was actually incredibly easy
Jul 07 07:37:29 <DocScrutinizer05> thanks to the great FL-88 fulx I guess
Jul 07 07:37:37 <DocScrutinizer05> Flux even
Jul 07 07:39:46 <DocScrutinizer05> it's really all just about proper tools and material
Jul 07 07:39:59 <DocScrutinizer05> wow, the bots are online again
Jul 07 08:09:22 <Maxdamantus> ffs, does the text database crash with long messages, or what?
Jul 07 08:10:21 <Maxdamantus> Wasn't able to click a message to get to the dialogue that lets me copy it, reopened the SMS window for that contact and it was gone.
Jul 07 08:10:34 <Maxdamantus> and it's not in the sqlite database.
Jul 07 08:10:59 <Maxdamantus> Got the person to resend it, but still can't copy it.
Jul 07 08:11:05 * Maxdamantus just typed it manually.
Jul 07 08:13:58 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe your eventsdb got corrupted?
Jul 07 08:14:14 <Maxdamantus> Maybe, dunno.
Jul 07 08:14:35 <Maxdamantus> I haven't actually tried it with other contacts or with the same contact with smaller messages.
Jul 07 08:15:06 <Maxdamantus> but once she sent the long message again, I was again unable to select earlier messages (which worker just after reopening the dialogue)
Jul 07 08:15:09 <Maxdamantus> worked*
Jul 07 08:16:39 <Maxdamantus> Though my message asking her to resend doesn't seem to be in the db .. dunno if it normally updates periodically or something.
Jul 07 08:17:53 <DocScrutinizer05> nope, instantly
Jul 07 08:18:04 <DocScrutinizer05> IroN900:~# ll ~user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db*
Jul 07 08:18:06 <DocScrutinizer05> -rw-r--r-- 1 user users 910336 2014-07-01 17:20 /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db
Jul 07 08:18:07 <DocScrutinizer05> -rw-r--r-- 1 user users      0 2011-03-06 20:12 /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db-journal
Jul 07 08:18:11 <Apic> Re.
Jul 07 08:18:31 <Apic> DocScrutinizer05: You rock.  Just wanted to say that.
Jul 07 08:18:37 <DocScrutinizer05> o.O
Jul 07 08:18:40 <Maxdamantus> -rw-------    1 user     users     160.0K Jul  6 23:59 el-v1.db
Jul 07 08:18:50 <Maxdamantus> Curious last modification time.
Jul 07 08:18:53 <Maxdamantus> Mon Jul  7 20:18:54 NZST 2014
Jul 07 08:18:54 <Apic> =^.^=
Jul 07 08:18:56 <Apic> ♥
Jul 07 08:19:54 <DocScrutinizer05> rename dat shite, see if it recovers. will also clean out all your events (call log, text log...)
Jul 07 08:21:37 <DocScrutinizer05> does the text message contain any special chars or sth. Also, was that a SMS or what?
Jul 07 08:22:20 <DocScrutinizer05> there's also some buffer used for communication with the modem aiui
Jul 07 08:22:41 <DocScrutinizer05> at least SMS pending to get sent are piling up there. See cherry
Jul 07 08:22:44 <DocScrutinizer05> ~cherry
Jul 07 08:22:53 <DocScrutinizer05> :-S
Jul 07 08:23:06 <kerio> WE LOVE YOU DOC
Jul 07 08:23:07 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+status
Jul 07 08:23:07 <infobot> Since Mon Jul  7 07:40:19 2014, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands.  I have been awake for 42m 48s this session, and currently reference 119293 factoids.  I'm using about 79464 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3.9/0.28 child 0/0
Jul 07 08:23:25 <DocScrutinizer05> o-O what the heck
Jul 07 08:23:36 <kerio> ~factinfo cherry
Jul 07 08:23:36 <infobot> error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required)
Jul 07 08:23:37 <infobot> kerio: there's no such factoid as cherry
Jul 07 08:23:41 <DocScrutinizer05> why does everybody love me. That's scary
Jul 07 08:23:45 <Maxdamantus> Hm. After dumping the db as it was then recreating it using the dump, I can see that it saved her message two before she sent the long one.
Jul 07 08:24:01 <kerio> because you're cute and cuddly
Jul 07 08:24:02 <kerio> obviously
Jul 07 08:24:08 <Maxdamantus> even though that was this hour, not yesterday.
Jul 07 08:24:14 <Maxdamantus> This is stupidly confusing.
Jul 07 08:24:23 <Maxdamantus> Does sqlite3 mess with the modification times?
Jul 07 08:24:30 <Maxdamantus> or does it store messages somewhere else?
Jul 07 08:25:13 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listkeys cherry
Jul 07 08:25:15 <infobot> Factoid search of 'cherry' by key (4): weathercode cherry point ;; cmd: cherry (.*?) ;; cherry pie ;; cherry vanilla creme.
Jul 07 08:25:26 <DocScrutinizer05> grrr
Jul 07 08:25:34 <kerio> maybe someone deleted it
Jul 07 08:25:39 <kerio> "what the fuck? this isn't about fruit"
Jul 07 08:25:40 <DocScrutinizer05> hardly
Jul 07 08:25:51 <DocScrutinizer05> ~jrtools
Jul 07 08:25:51 <infobot> jrtools is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
Jul 07 08:26:19 <Maxdamantus> Meh, it's losing stuff again.
Jul 07 08:26:25 <Maxdamantus> How does it even happen?
Jul 07 08:26:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ~#maemo cherry is http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription
Jul 07 08:26:40 <infobot> okay, DocScrutinizer05
Jul 07 08:26:58 <Maxdamantus> Why can't people use fucking text files?
Jul 07 08:27:03 <Maxdamantus> At least then you can comprehend problems.
Jul 07 08:27:20 <DocScrutinizer05> ask ~poettering ;-)
Jul 07 08:27:21 <Maxdamantus> and it will probably work even if files get corrupted somehow.
Jul 07 08:27:31 <DocScrutinizer05> systemd uses binary logging now
Jul 07 08:27:59 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly mysql, as I know that guy
Jul 07 08:28:16 * Maxdamantus intends to avoid systemd.
Jul 07 08:28:52 <DocScrutinizer05> Maxdamantus: anyway check ~cherry, it has pointers to some /var/dunno/what location where raw plain text files of SMS are supposed to hide
Jul 07 08:30:14 <Maxdamantus> Oh, it didn't lose messages .. just saw an alert from a week ago for some reason.
Jul 07 08:30:25 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription#Recovering
Jul 07 08:30:39 <Maxdamantus> O_o
Jul 07 08:31:06 <DocScrutinizer05> check /var/spool/sms/
Jul 07 08:33:02 <DocScrutinizer05> >>Cherry will tell the CSD daemon, through CSD's libcsd-sms.so module, to send the SMS directly, bypassing Telepathy and RTCOMM so the SMS is not visible in your Messaging history.<<
Jul 07 08:33:51 <DocScrutinizer05> suggests it's either telepathy or rtcomm which is supposed to write the SMS to /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db
Jul 07 08:46:06 <Maxdamantus> Mm, that seems to only have messages that haven't been handled yet.
Jul 07 08:55:33 <DocScrutinizer05> ~cherry
Jul 07 08:55:39 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, cherry is http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription
Jul 07 10:42:14 <jpinx> I've made the jump to android and now have 2 perfectly good n900's surplus - if anyone's interested
Jul 07 11:56:24 <kerio> jpinx: send them to me!
Jul 07 14:30:30 <jpinx> kerio: how much ? :)
Jul 07 17:30:43 <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!
Jul 07 21:39:19 <user___> how can i see the savved jabber passwords?
Jul 07 21:41:04 <user___> i looked in some places like .rtcom-accounts and gconf, but nothing
Jul 07 21:48:27 <user___> i'm not sure where else it could be
Jul 07 21:54:33 <user___> .signon/user-db.xml could be, but encrypted
Jul 07 21:58:02 <user___> according to twitter its not xml
Jul 07 22:01:25 <Sicelo> user___: gconf
Jul 07 22:02:07 <Agge> ~Poettering
Jul 07 22:02:08 <infobot> 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html
Jul 07 22:02:47 <Sicelo> oh, you already looked in gconf .. look again. definitely there .. just my N900 is on battery strike right now, i would give you the whole path/node (whatever it's called)
Jul 07 22:02:59 <user___> Sicelo: except the jabber passwords aren't there ...?
Jul 07 22:03:11 <Sicelo> they are definitely accessible via gconftool -R /
Jul 07 22:04:00 <user___> i'm grepping that for my account and no
Jul 07 22:04:06 <user___> exchange stores it there
Jul 07 22:04:22 <Sicelo> haha, exchange? you said jabber
Jul 07 22:04:59 <user___> yeah i'm looking for jabber
Jul 07 22:05:03 <user___> i just saw esxchange
Jul 07 22:07:52 <user___> modest, rdesktop, i can see them
Jul 07 22:08:08 <user___> grepping for password i see passwords i know aren't for that account
Jul 07 22:09:19 <user___> i do see an encrypted_password but less won't let me use / to get there
Jul 07 22:11:17 <user___> ok thats activesync
Jul 07 22:11:37 <user___> but yeah not in gconf
Jul 07 22:13:16 <user__> argh fatfingered close
Jul 07 22:13:22 <user__> but yeah it's not in gconf
Jul 07 22:14:34 <user__> Sicelo: i'm pretty sure it's probably in user_db.xml... if i can get to it
Jul 07 22:15:03 <Sicelo> well, maybe i've forgotten.. still trying to get my N900 to switch on
Jul 07 22:15:14 <Sicelo> i could have sworn they are in gconf
Jul 07 22:15:18 <user__> i gotta leavep low bat, power outage in area
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