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Aug 04 08:04:52 <wnd> someone's selling an n900 here in finland for 20 euro, I wonder if I should get it just in case
Aug 04 08:05:06 <wnd> and an n950 for 120 euro
Aug 04 08:05:08 <joga> you should, both
Aug 04 08:08:40 <bencoh> definitely :]
Aug 04 08:14:40 <Luke-Jr> N950? wasn't that the one never sold?
Aug 04 08:14:56 <wnd> yup
Aug 04 08:15:11 <Luke-Jr> so if they don't own it, how can they sell it?
Aug 04 08:15:33 <wnd> I suppose Nokia isn't calling the devices back
Aug 04 08:15:41 <Luke-Jr> .. yet?
Aug 04 08:16:01 <Luke-Jr> anyone want to check over my thermostat logic? http://codepad.org/ZF6NVnbB
Aug 04 12:33:28 <sixwheeledbeast> People have been selling N950's for a while.
Aug 04 12:37:53 <kerio> do they actually own n950s?
Aug 04 12:38:07 <kerio> or were they just leased by nokia?
Aug 04 16:31:40 <sixwheeledbeast> I believe they are loaners.
Aug 04 19:24:56 <YnG> adad
Aug 04 19:35:47 <ShadowJK> Luke-Jr; can you describe your hwardware, and principle of operation a bit?
Aug 04 19:37:53 <ShadowJK> Luke-Jr; meh, compressors are annoying
Aug 04 19:37:55 <Luke-Jr> ShadowJK: hardware is an off-the-shelf Nest thermostat
Aug 04 19:37:58 <ShadowJK> can't pwm :(
Aug 04 19:38:19 <Luke-Jr> behind this code, I have another daemon that handle ZMQ and talks to the backplate itself
Aug 04 19:38:39 <Luke-Jr> it also enforces a shutoff delay for every FET, just to be safe
Aug 04 19:39:46 <ShadowJK> is there a reason you're doing this in code on a computer-like thing?
Aug 04 19:39:56 <Luke-Jr> as opposed to? O.o
Aug 04 19:40:10 <ShadowJK> .. a thermostat?
Aug 04 19:40:17 <Luke-Jr> same thing
Aug 04 19:40:35 <Luke-Jr> this will all be cross-compiled and run on the thermostat
Aug 04 19:40:45 <ShadowJK> hah
Aug 04 19:41:05 <Luke-Jr> being able to run parts on my PC does make debugging simpler since it hates GDB tho
Aug 04 19:41:10 <ShadowJK> not using ospid?
Aug 04 19:41:29 <Luke-Jr> didn't know it existed :o
Aug 04 19:41:51 <ShadowJK> open source hw and sw thermostat/process controller
Aug 04 19:42:54 <Luke-Jr> > Instead of just “On” or “Off”, a PID controller outputs a value somewhere between 0 and 100%.
Aug 04 19:42:58 <Luke-Jr> all I got is on/off :P
Aug 04 19:43:50 <ShadowJK> Yeah but they all have on/off with hysteresis too
Aug 04 19:44:17 <Luke-Jr> ?
Aug 04 19:44:31 <Luke-Jr> hysteresis is something I have to implement
Aug 04 19:44:48 <Luke-Jr> literally all I have is on/off switches for compressor, fan, etc
Aug 04 19:45:02 <ShadowJK> I mean process controllers typically have on/off mode with hysteresis too
Aug 04 19:45:45 <ShadowJK> Though for my fridge I'd actually want negative hysteresis..
Aug 04 21:56:31 <kerio> yo DocScrutinizer
Aug 04 21:56:34 <kerio> how much is EDV1?
Aug 04 21:56:54 <kerio> 3248 apparently
Aug 04 21:56:56 <kerio> ty
Aug 04 21:57:22 <DocScrutinizer51> how half is moon in Spain, over the Atlantic?
Aug 04 21:57:37 <kerio> fuck units of measurement
Aug 04 21:57:44 <kerio> i'm a math student
Aug 04 21:58:38 <DocScrutinizer51> you know what really sucks: nicocam acting up in holiday
Aug 04 22:03:35 <kerio> :(
Aug 04 22:30:34 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer51: come on, I really hate it when someone feeds nicocam without actually telling what the real problem is and how to reproduce it :(
Aug 04 22:30:59 <freemangordon> BTW, hi guys, I am back from holiday :)
Aug 04 22:36:26 <dos1> freemangordon: well, I hate it when nicocam fails, and then I try to reproduce to at least understand what the problem may be and I simply can't :P
Aug 04 22:37:29 <dos1> it always works properly when I want it to break, and breaks only when I want it to work properly ;]
Aug 04 22:38:28 <dos1> some logs in nicocam would sure be handy
Aug 04 22:40:43 <DocScrutinizer51> freemangordon: night mode viewfinder is great, pics taken are black
Aug 04 22:47:17 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer51: did it work with stock cam?
Aug 04 22:48:06 <freemangordon> as nicocam is just an ui
Aug 04 22:48:33 <freemangordon> the real job is done by a different piece of SW
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