**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 07 03:00:00 2014
Oct 07 07:26:00 <deepy> can I get alpine to save my password?
Oct 07 10:41:32 <Sicelo> mutt can. i think alpine should be able as well. not sure however (never used alpine)
Oct 07 16:15:02 <drmagoo> Hi. Anyone here who knows where I can download the flasher for linux and the latest maemo version for my N900 ?
Oct 07 16:15:40 <bencoh> ~flasher
Oct 07 16:15:40 <infobot> methinks flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
Oct 07 16:15:45 <bencoh> ~combined
Oct 07 16:15:45 <infobot> combined is probably the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
Oct 07 16:15:49 <bencoh> ~emmc
Oct 07 16:15:50 <infobot> it has been said that emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2
Oct 07 16:15:57 <bencoh> something like that
Oct 07 16:16:17 <stryngs> hmmmmm
Oct 07 16:16:25 <stryngs> Why is the device passlock hardcoded?
Oct 07 16:16:35 <stryngs> How do i truly reset it to 12345?
Oct 07 16:16:52 <stryngs> even erasing /etc before a reflash did nothing to fix it
Oct 07 16:17:31 <drmagoo> bencoh: thank you very much =) 
Oct 07 16:36:25 <drmagoo> dumb question, which image do I flash it first with? if I want it to be reset to factory defaults ? Or will the emmc-image do that ?
Oct 07 16:38:01 <stryngs> _10.
Oct 07 16:38:14 <stryngs> _2* is secondary
Oct 07 16:38:18 <stryngs> don't have it memorized =-)
Oct 07 16:40:07 <bencoh> see wiki
Oct 07 16:44:26 <Ras_Older> stryngs: Install John the Ripper to your N900 and bruteforce your current lock code then you can set it to whatever you like it to be.
Oct 07 16:45:07 <stryngs> Ras_Older: I know how to do it, what i want to know is how to clear, not how to bruteforce
Oct 07 16:46:47 <Ras_Older> Well after you know your current one you can set it off?
Oct 07 16:47:04 <stryngs> What if i didnt know the current one Ras_Older =)
Oct 07 16:47:13 <stryngs> I do ofc, but i've never been able to reset to 12345
Oct 07 16:47:15 <stryngs> which is weird
Oct 07 16:47:39 <Ras_Older> wat :D I just said that bruteforce your current one so you can set it off after that
Oct 07 16:47:42 <Ras_Older> as in
Oct 07 16:47:45 <Ras_Older> "echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): > /root/phone_lock_hash"
Oct 07 16:48:07 <Ras_Older> and then "john -i:digits phone_lock_hash"
Oct 07 16:48:16 <Ras_Older> for that you need to have John the Ripper installed
Oct 07 16:48:19 <stryngs> Ras_Older: I'm not trying to figure out how to bruteforce the phone, I understand that part.  What if I buy an n900 on ebay that is locked
Oct 07 16:48:32 <stryngs> I'm assuming if you lock it and it dies, that it stays locked
Oct 07 16:48:37 <stryngs> ive never tried
Oct 07 16:48:52 <stryngs> but if the lock doesnt stay after powerdown then yes i guess u could unlock it
Oct 07 16:51:19 <Ras_Older> Yes I think that the lock will stay after power down but it should be resetted after a reflashing the phone? If someone knows for sure feel free to correct me. I've never needed to truly reflash my phone.
Oct 07 16:52:36 <Ras_Older> gah typos :D sorry I'm in a bar at Jyväskylä (FIN) and feeling a bit tipsy *cough*
Oct 07 16:55:21 <Ras_Older> stryngs: ah damn it yes of course now I got your meaning :D In my case there was a lock code (like 47825 or something like that) set by the old user but it was disabled. So I needed to figure wtf it was to re-enable it again without flashing the phone.
Oct 07 16:59:11 <stryngs> Interesting Ras_Older 
Oct 07 16:59:12 <Ras_Older> stryngs: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=538825&postcount=2 
Oct 07 16:59:22 <stryngs> ty, ill check i tout
Oct 07 17:00:13 <Ras_Older> Not a problem!
Oct 07 17:02:07 <stryngs> Heh, leads to : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37808
Oct 07 17:06:36 <Ras_Older> Yeah well reflash the phone, install your tools and get the key. Then you can do whatever you like with it.
Oct 07 17:07:09 <stryngs> ill have to play with it the next time i decide to refresh
Oct 07 17:07:13 <stryngs> definately curious now =)
Oct 07 17:10:00 <bencoh> cant you just clean/reset/reflash the cal partition ?
Oct 07 17:10:25 <Ras_Older> Its never meant as serious safety measure but atleast it will keep your data protected from someone who has access to your device briefly (jealous girl/boyfriends for example!).
Oct 07 17:11:46 <stryngs> oh yeah, i would never look at it as such.  unless something is encrypted, once it is physically owned, it should be considered pwned
Oct 07 17:12:14 <Ras_Older> yep agreed with that
Oct 07 18:45:13 <jake42> somewhere in the maemo wiki there was a page about the test points of n900 (USB, possible Serial..) , but I can't find it now. could someone point me to it please? :-)
Oct 07 18:46:52 <Sicelo> http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Hacking
Oct 07 18:48:57 <jake42> Sicelo: ah, thanks!
Oct 07 18:49:39 <Sicelo> yw
Oct 07 18:50:07 <Sicelo> the serial really works, as long as you remeber it is not 5V ;)
Oct 07 19:26:22 <jake42> I soldered a new microUSB receptical to a broken n900. I'm a n900 noob. What is expected behavior when plugging a n900 to a pc running linux?
Oct 07 19:26:55 <jake42> nothing happens so far, which is probably a bad sign regarding my soldering :-)
Oct 07 19:27:03 <jake42> right?
Oct 07 19:47:46 <capsuLe> Hello !! :D
Oct 07 19:47:54 <capsuLe> nice evening all
Oct 07 19:49:33 <capsuLe> little holiday without web , but with my N900 maemo ;) recently flashed with ur help ! ( usb cable from box , didn"t work :)
Oct 07 19:49:48 <freemangordon> jake42: yeah, bad sign
Oct 07 19:50:02 <freemangordon> n900 should ask you about mass storage/pc suite
Oct 07 19:51:03 <capsuLe> do you know software maemo application for read *.pgn (chess game /database)
Oct 07 19:51:32 <capsuLe> miniture and chess haven't this option
Oct 07 19:52:56 <jake42> freemangordon: ok, so I'll probably have to  the hot air station out again, but first I'll try to measure between D+/- on usbcable to those D+/- testpoints
Oct 07 19:53:43 <freemangordon> jake42: make sure your cable is ok
Oct 07 19:54:15 <jake42> freemangordon: a nexus 4 shows up at lsusb
Oct 07 19:54:28 <jake42> so should be working..
Oct 07 19:54:33 <freemangordon> anything in dmesg when you connect n900?
Oct 07 19:54:37 <jake42> not at all
Oct 07 19:54:52 <freemangordon> yeah, I guess then you have no option :)
Oct 07 19:55:39 <jake42> maybe it needs alittle more solder paste
Oct 07 21:05:42 <sixwheeledbeast> on the topic of john are there any jtr "gurus" about that I can ask a few questions.
Oct 07 21:44:28 <jake42> usbport works after 2nd try soldering it*woho*
Oct 07 21:45:12 <Sicelo> works fine? you can use mass storage mode properly?
Oct 07 21:46:05 <jake42> I can see the files on the n900 from my pc
Oct 07 21:46:36 <Sicelo> wow
Oct 07 21:46:49 <jake42> so it realy works :-)
Oct 07 21:46:58 <Sicelo> lucky you. i need to change the complete receptacle on mine
Oct 07 21:47:23 <jake42> well there was no receptacle when I got this one
Oct 07 21:48:16 <Sicelo> oh 
Oct 07 21:48:17 <jake42> i.e. previous owner has ripped it out
Oct 07 21:48:29 <jake42> but all the pads looked fine
Oct 07 21:48:40 <jake42> luckily
Oct 07 21:48:41 <Sicelo> what hot air station do you have?
Oct 07 21:49:08 <jake42> it says AOYUE Int 852 SMD rework sation
Oct 07 21:49:21 <jake42> looks rather cheap
Oct 07 21:50:14 <jake42> also used a preheating thingy
Oct 07 21:50:43 <jake42> all thanks to the great people here at fablab.fau.de
Oct 07 21:51:19 <Sicelo> hope you also gave the sides of the receptacle some solder for extra support
Oct 07 21:51:31 <jake42> not yet
Oct 07 21:51:49 <jake42> but I will
Oct 07 21:53:16 <Sicelo> mine can change (if i wiggle the cable a bit). however, via pc it is not recognized at all. a few cables work on it however
Oct 07 21:53:39 <Sicelo> my understanding is that the pads iinside the receptacle are gone
Oct 07 22:00:35 <jake42> hm. with a hot air station, replacing the receptacle doesn't seem too hard now
Oct 07 22:04:48 <jake42> detection of camera sliding window state seems not to be working, is that a common problem?
Oct 07 22:05:54 <jon_y> cool, Poettering is calling Linux sick and awful
Oct 07 22:06:06 <jon_y> of course, we all know he is sick and awful too :)
Oct 07 22:06:07 <Sicelo> jake42: it is detected via a light switch .. check if it's not obstructed or similar
Oct 07 22:07:13 <Sicelo> jake42: and check dmesg
Oct 07 22:07:20 <jake42> Sicelo: yes, theres this hole with a black window and another opening with some dust or something
Oct 07 22:08:39 <Sicelo> hehe, i had swap on uSD, and just now by mistake removed the cover. as expected, device rebooted
Oct 07 22:09:13 <jake42> well atleast the backcover sensor works :-)
Oct 07 22:12:08 <jake42> dmesg reports backcover open/closed and once cam cover as beeing open
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