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Oct 17 03:06:29 <Jef91> I'm only about 5 years late, but I've ported a pandora radio player to my old N900 and figured I'd share -> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1443099#post1443099
Oct 17 06:38:08 <sixwheeledbeast> raccoon_: well obviously I'd say flopswap :) or alternately your own solution.
Oct 17 09:24:51 <zGrr> moin :)
Oct 17 13:18:09 <b1101> anyone know how to export emails to text
Oct 17 13:18:51 <b1101> on the N900 that is
Oct 17 13:20:57 <Sicelo> no idea off the top of my head, but have you checked /home/user/.modest/ :
Oct 17 13:26:48 <drathir> b1101: claws-mail maybe?
Oct 17 13:26:48 <b1101> yup
Oct 17 13:26:50 <b1101> found it
Oct 17 13:27:04 <b1101> I tried claws-mail a while back and remember not liking it 
Oct 17 13:27:20 <b1101> I'm tempted to put it back, just so I can easily use gpg
Oct 17 13:27:32 <drathir> b1101: mutt?
Oct 17 13:27:52 <b1101> ^that I think
Oct 17 13:28:41 <b1101> it's about time I learn how to read email with a client that sucks less
Oct 17 13:29:56 <b1101> lol, n900 is on Microsofts site right now 
Oct 17 13:32:40 <Sicelo> http://lwn.net/Articles/616571/
Oct 17 13:32:45 <Sicelo> ~systemd
Oct 17 13:32:45 <infobot> systemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer, Daniel Mack, Tom Gundersen, David Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too. See http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced the linux kernel, or see http://boycottsystemd.org/, or see http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/
Oct 17 13:39:03 <b1101> ...dependencies
Oct 17 13:45:20 <b1101> and a dependency I need is not available
Oct 17 13:47:43 <b1101> slang1a-utf8
Oct 17 13:47:50 <b1101> I can't seem to find it in any repo
Oct 17 13:49:58 <Sicelo> sdk repo
Oct 17 13:51:55 <b1101> Sicelo, thank you
Oct 17 13:52:00 <b1101> I would have never looked ther
Oct 17 13:57:09 <stryngs> b1101: wait now
Oct 17 13:57:15 <stryngs> are you building locally?
Oct 17 13:57:21 <Sicelo> :p
Oct 17 13:57:25 <b1101> no
Oct 17 13:57:32 <stryngs> ok, have fun
Oct 17 13:57:38 <b1101> I just don't have those repos available
Oct 17 13:57:41 <stryngs> Sicelo: you have a moment?
Oct 17 13:57:56 <b1101> considering if I should just enable them instead of hopping around 
Oct 17 13:58:16 <stryngs> b1101: your using scratchbox, right?
Oct 17 13:58:24 <Sicelo> stryngs: yes, i am bored after having had car accident. but i fear i won't have any answer for any of your questions
Oct 17 13:58:40 <stryngs> I wanted you to try to build something on your n900 to see if u get same error
Oct 17 13:58:41 <b1101> scratchbox ?
Oct 17 13:58:47 <Sicelo> stryngs: no. b1101 is not developing/building anything.. he just needs a dependency for mutt
Oct 17 13:58:54 <stryngs> b1101: So then u are building loca.............
Oct 17 13:58:59 <b1101> no,
Oct 17 13:59:04 <stryngs> if u grab it from scratchbox, it might or might not work
Oct 17 13:59:14 <stryngs> sometimes .debs from the sdk require /scratchbox
Oct 17 13:59:23 <stryngs> ie
Oct 17 13:59:34 <stryngs> debhelper_7.0.15-maemo2_all.deb                 dpkg-dev_1.14.25maemo3+0m5_all.deb              intltool-debian_0.35.0+20060710.1osso1_all.deb
Oct 17 13:59:37 <stryngs> dh-autoreconf_1_all.deb                         html2text_1.3.2a-2_armel.deb                    po-debconf_1.0.8-0osso1_all.deb
Oct 17 13:59:38 <Sicelo> i've never experienced that (and i have sdk always enabled on my N900)
Oct 17 13:59:41 <stryngs> install those on your n900
Oct 17 13:59:50 <stryngs> then try to use em =)
Oct 17 13:59:51 <Sicelo> ah.. dev packages.
Oct 17 13:59:55 <stryngs> They require /scratchbox
Oct 17 14:00:11 <stryngs> Hence, the warning to you that the SDK repo, might -or- might not work
Oct 17 14:00:27 <stryngs> But, Sicelo Can you try to build something?  Shouldn't take more than like 3 mins to fail
Oct 17 14:00:44 <Sicelo> build on N900? i don't have it setup for that
Oct 17 14:00:53 <stryngs> I need to figure out how to disable gtk, i think thats the issue, curious...............
Oct 17 14:00:55 <stryngs> nono
Oct 17 14:00:56 <stryngs> make
Oct 17 14:00:58 <stryngs> cmake ../
Oct 17 14:01:00 <stryngs> simple as that, nothing crazy
Oct 17 14:01:10 <stryngs> make fails
Oct 17 14:01:31 <Sicelo> i only have make in Easy Debian, not in Maemo
Oct 17 14:01:39 <Sicelo> will that be fine?>
Oct 17 14:01:48 <stryngs> oei
Oct 17 14:01:52 <stryngs> not sure
Oct 17 14:01:56 <stryngs> heres the error
Oct 17 14:01:56 <stryngs> make[2]: *** [src/interfaces/CMakeFiles/ec_interfaces.dir/gtk/ec_gtk.c.o] Error 1
Oct 17 14:02:03 <b1101> Sicelo, any suggestion on where linux-kernel-headers package would be
Oct 17 14:02:09 <stryngs> i wish i knew how to pass to cmake to not build gtk
Oct 17 14:03:04 <Sicelo> b1101: sdk as well :)
Oct 17 14:03:58 <Sicelo> stryngs: give me a link to the files.. i'm in front of my pc and can build in SB then
Oct 17 14:04:24 <stryngs> https://github.com/Ettercap/ettercap/archive/v0.8.1.tar.gz
Oct 17 14:04:36 <stryngs> i'm pretty sure i dont have a gtk dependency
Oct 17 14:04:46 <stryngs> but i cant figure out how to tell it not to build via gtk
Oct 17 14:04:46 <stryngs> with rather
Oct 17 14:07:02 * b1101 considers giving his n900 access to all repos
Oct 17 14:08:16 <Sicelo> it is not generally recommended (though i've always had sdk and devel enabled on mine, at all times)
Oct 17 14:10:20 <Sicelo> stryngs: anything else besides just configure-->make?
Oct 17 14:10:43 <stryngs> oh, are u being nice and making it for me?
Oct 17 14:11:10 <stryngs> if it makes successfully you did good
Oct 17 14:11:18 <stryngs> that tells me its a dependency issue
Oct 17 14:11:20 <stryngs> and not a bad release
Oct 17 14:12:00 <stryngs> there is specifically a flag for cmake, if you are building it
Oct 17 14:12:17 <stryngs> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ..
Oct 17 14:14:16 <Sicelo> hm, cmake in SB is older than specified for ettercap
Oct 17 14:15:08 <stryngs> haha
Oct 17 14:15:10 <stryngs> i know =)
Oct 17 14:15:17 <stryngs> Its why i built my own cmake =)
Oct 17 14:15:28 <stryngs> dang, u cant test then
Oct 17 14:15:33 <stryngs> unless u want to try my cmake .deb
Oct 17 14:15:49 <Sicelo> btw, have you tried disabling GTK in CMakeLists.txt file?
Oct 17 14:16:07 <stryngs> hmm
Oct 17 14:16:23 <stryngs> i wonder if u figured it out =)
Oct 17 14:16:29 <inz> stryngs, I remember building cmake for maemo back in whenever I had a laptop with only 1 GB of memory; it was not fun
Oct 17 14:16:33 <stryngs> i'm only using to doing stuff with ./configure =)
Oct 17 14:16:38 <inz> stryngs, cc1plus was eating it like candy
Oct 17 14:16:44 * stryngs built it natievly =)
Oct 17 14:16:49 * stryngs does everything nativer
Oct 17 14:16:51 * stryngs does everything native
Oct 17 14:17:05 <stryngs> Nokia-N900:~# dpkg --list | grep cmake
Oct 17 14:17:05 <stryngs> ii  cmake                                               2.8.4                            A cross-platform, open-source make system
Oct 17 14:17:08 <stryngs> =)
Oct 17 14:17:29 <Sicelo> so what happens when you change option(ENABLE_GTK "Enable GTK interface" ON)
Oct 17 14:17:35 <Sicelo>  to off?
Oct 17 14:18:46 <stryngs> im finding out
Oct 17 14:18:57 <stryngs> I take it that is like configure with -- options?
Oct 17 14:18:59 <stryngs> The file Sicelo ?
Oct 17 14:19:45 <Sicelo> CMakeLists.txt
Oct 17 14:20:02 * stryngs crosses his finger
Oct 17 14:20:05 * stryngs crosses his fingers
Oct 17 14:20:39 <Sicelo> should work
Oct 17 14:20:48 * stryngs puts his N900 on his custom built cooling rig
Oct 17 14:20:56 * stryngs presses enter
Oct 17 14:20:59 <stryngs> Here we go...
Oct 17 14:21:08 <Sicelo> i've edited it to use cmake 2.6, and it's already trying, at least :p
Oct 17 14:21:21 <stryngs> I literally built a fan rig for my n900 to cool it during building
Oct 17 14:22:20 <stryngs> I'm pretty sure it needs gtk3
Oct 17 14:22:22 <stryngs> which i dont have
Oct 17 14:22:39 <Sicelo> lol. just buy a Beaglebone if you insist on not using cross-compile environments. apparentlys it's close enough to N900
Oct 17 14:22:59 <stryngs> nope, evidently 2.2.2 =)
Oct 17 14:23:03 <stryngs> I think this will work!
Oct 17 14:23:12 <stryngs> I don't use the damn gui anyways, realestate is too small
Oct 17 14:23:13 <stryngs> !
Oct 17 14:23:22 <stryngs> Sicelo: you stateside or foreign?
Oct 17 14:23:43 <Sicelo> where is that coming from? :D
Oct 17 14:23:48 <Sicelo> anyway, Africa
Oct 17 14:25:39 <stryngs> Africa
Oct 17 14:25:41 <stryngs> holy shit!
Oct 17 14:26:33 <stryngs> not the west i hope?
Oct 17 14:28:07 <Sicelo> ebola? at least it's not transmittable via IRC ;)
Oct 17 14:28:12 <Sicelo> am in the south
Oct 17 14:28:32 <stryngs> I met a dude from south africa at defcon
Oct 17 14:28:34 <stryngs> nice guy
Oct 17 14:28:47 <stryngs> I forget what part, i have his business card lying around somewhere
Oct 17 14:29:00 <Sicelo> that's where i'm at. but i'm a citizen of swaziland
Oct 17 14:29:27 <stryngs> Is there a lot of Ebola fear goin on?
Oct 17 14:30:32 <Sicelo> no. there are a few suspected cases, i think
Oct 17 14:31:11 <stryngs> O Lord our God, bestower of the blessings of the Swazi;
Oct 17 14:31:14 <stryngs> We give...
Oct 17 14:31:16 <stryngs> =)
Oct 17 14:33:42 <stryngs> Dang, Swaziland doesn't seem like a nice place to visit
Oct 17 14:35:22 <Sicelo> why?
Oct 17 14:35:29 <stryngs> Infections
Oct 17 14:35:32 <stryngs> Aids/TB
Oct 17 14:36:43 <stryngs> Sicelo: p.s.  IT WORKED =0
Oct 17 14:36:49 <Sicelo> ok. great
Oct 17 14:36:54 <stryngs> There are some other configurations I have to figure out, but still
Oct 17 14:36:57 <stryngs> yYou da man =)
Oct 17 14:38:46 <Sicelo> glad it works
Oct 17 14:48:22 <stryngs> Alright Sicelo, maybe you can go 2 for 2.  So in the Makefile created, there is no DESTDIR variable
Oct 17 14:48:44 <stryngs> I've got to mod this in the CMakeLists.txt evidently
Oct 17 14:48:46 <stryngs> any ideas?
Oct 17 14:49:01 <stryngs> Pretty much, i want it to pretend that /root/foo is the /
Oct 17 14:52:04 <Sicelo> no idea. i don't know how cmake works
Oct 17 14:53:24 <stryngs> =)
Oct 17 14:53:29 <stryngs> If i figure it out ill let ya know
Oct 17 14:56:01 <Sicelo> tried to specify DESTDIR after running cmake?
Oct 17 14:56:57 <Sicelo> cmake --> make --> make install DESTDIR...
Oct 17 14:58:01 <Nokiabot> ~Nokiabot
Oct 17 14:58:02 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, nokiabot is so damm sexy !
Oct 17 15:08:37 <stryngs> Sicelo: that doesnt work if DESTDIR is not present in the Makefile =)
Oct 17 15:45:55 <b1101> I can't believe I'm using a 5 year old phone, but at least I have it. All other options suck sadly
Oct 17 15:49:39 <b1101> I wouldn't trade my N900 for any new phone
Oct 17 15:50:14 <Sicelo> :)
Oct 17 15:50:25 <b1101> :D
Oct 17 15:50:38 * Sicelo loves it 100%, even with borked USB
Oct 17 15:50:43 <ecc3g> amen
Oct 17 15:50:52 <b1101> I purchased a second one a few months back
Oct 17 15:51:15 <b1101> it doesn't look like there will be a good option for a while.
Oct 17 15:52:17 <b1101> before rebooting just now after installing libraries I had almost a month of uptime
Oct 17 15:53:22 <b1101> I haven't seen an Android pull that shit ever
Oct 17 15:55:40 <Sicelo> i'll be honest mine doesn't manage it anymore.. random issues with GPRS which i can't seem to 'fix' without a reboot
Oct 17 15:55:55 <b1101> :(
Oct 17 15:56:22 <b1101> I know nokias contract with ms ends in 2016. I hope they get their shit together
Oct 17 15:56:24 <Sicelo> having old battery doesn't help either
Oct 17 15:56:47 <b1101> get the polarcell one
Oct 17 16:00:15 <Sicelo> i will look
Oct 17 16:04:20 <Vajb> b1101: i got over one hundred days with mine. Had to turn it off for flight.
Oct 17 16:05:16 <Sicelo> could you not have put it on Offline? :O
Oct 17 16:05:23 <Vajb> luckily i havo two coz other one can't manage even one full week :(
Oct 17 16:05:47 <Vajb> well i could, but my power finger was faster than brain
Oct 17 16:06:11 <freemangordon> what about Neo900, don;t you consider it as an option to N900?
Oct 17 16:09:31 <Sicelo> freemangordon: i personally would like Neo.. but things going bad financially, lol.. so that dream not likely to be realized
Oct 17 16:15:15 <Vajb> whats up with neo anyway?
Oct 17 16:15:26 <Vajb> can it be bought somewhere?
Oct 17 16:15:48 <Sicelo> not yet.. but you can order, iirc
Oct 17 16:16:11 <Humpelstilzchen> pre order
Oct 17 16:18:13 <Vajb> ah so it's the same as before
Oct 17 18:39:09 <sixwheeledbeast> ~polarcell
Oct 17 18:39:10 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement
Oct 17 18:40:07 <NIN101> ~seen DocScrutinizer
Oct 17 18:40:10 <infobot> docscrutinizer <~jr2@openmoko/engineers/joerg> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 611d 17h 38m 32s ago, saying: '~nuke akonadi'.
Oct 17 18:41:37 <sixwheeledbeast> NIN101: you won't find Doc here.
Oct 17 18:42:23 <NIN101> he left maemo?
Oct 17 18:42:46 <sixwheeledbeast> left #maemo I believe
Oct 17 18:46:00 <Sicelo> find him on Neo channel
Oct 17 18:48:08 <NIN101> ok, just wondered.
Oct 17 18:50:03 <arcean> ~emmc
Oct 17 18:50:03 <infobot> i heard emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2
Oct 17 18:50:10 <arcean> ~flasher
Oct 17 18:50:11 <infobot> from memory, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
Oct 17 18:50:32 <arcean> ~rootfs
Oct 17 18:50:32 <infobot> rootfs: the content of the storage volume mounted under /, on NAND mtd5 partition. Also called "the system", since it's all the files forming the linux core system (except the kernel itself). Reflash rootfs from COMBINED (see ~flashing). Also see ~bootloop
Oct 17 18:52:32 <arcean> ~fiasco
Oct 17 18:52:32 <infobot> L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/
Oct 17 18:52:36 <arcean> heh
Oct 17 18:57:35 <arcean> ~pr131
Oct 17 18:57:36 <infobot> i heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
Oct 17 19:00:23 <NIN101> in general seems I missed some drama in the last couple of months
Oct 17 19:01:10 <NIN101> i. e. this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93908
Oct 17 19:12:06 <Sicelo> hehe, NIN101 
Oct 17 19:23:11 <NIN101> to be clear, I mean, missed as in "haven't noticed", not as in "wanted". 
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