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Oct 19 08:36:41 <capsule> hello
Oct 19 08:37:03 <Sicelo> hi
Oct 19 08:50:45 <Sicelo> freemangordon: any idea where i can get sources for libglib2.0-0=2.24.1-1maemo1+0cssu0?
Oct 19 08:50:57 <Sicelo> or anyone else who might know
Oct 19 08:51:37 <NIN101> maybe here? https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glib/activities
Oct 19 08:52:52 <Sicelo> i'm trying to troubleshoot fuelpad. when trying to generate reports on my device with this version, i get segfault. it would appear tthat fuelpad was compiled against 2.23.
Oct 19 08:52:58 <Sicelo> let me look NIN101 
Oct 19 09:11:59 <Sicelo> got it :)
Oct 19 09:12:02 <Sicelo> http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/source/g/glib2.0/
Oct 19 09:14:26 <peetah> Anyone having a solution for the Modest TLS connection issue (POODLE related issue) (cf 11 hours ago for details)?
Oct 19 09:16:58 <peetah> I notice that the same happens with the TTRSS reader used with MeeCoLay: could they both share the same library to initiate secure connections ?
Oct 19 09:21:53 <NIN101> peetah: well, I suppose maemo's openssl supports TLS
Oct 19 09:22:08 <Wizzup> It's a rather old openssl though
Oct 19 09:22:09 <NIN101> peetah: therefore, taking a look at modest's source could be helpful
Oct 19 09:22:24 <NIN101> maybe it simply doesn't even try TLS
Oct 19 09:26:37 <peetah> NIN101: is it available on  gitorious ?
Oct 19 09:27:59 <NIN101> https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest.git
Oct 19 09:28:46 <peetah> yep I just found it thanks
Oct 19 11:00:43 <Sicelo> hmm, now i have a non-crashing fuelpad binary, but it crashes if i run it in gdb
Oct 19 11:01:44 <Sicelo> ok. doesn't 
Oct 19 11:23:57 <Sicelo> anyone can shed some light: why would a program crash if not build with CFLAGS=-g in configure stage?
Oct 19 11:24:25 <Sicelo> *built
Oct 19 11:24:26 <freemangordon> compiler bug?
Oct 19 11:25:16 <bencoh> stack overflow/memory corruption which is only visible in some specific situation
Oct 19 11:25:35 <bencoh> (just guessing)
Oct 19 11:26:04 <Sicelo> weird. at least i've got a running binary now.
Oct 19 11:26:13 <freemangordon> Sicelo: does it crash if built with -g, but symbols are stripped?
Oct 19 11:26:48 <Sicelo> let me check.. how do you strip symbols?
Oct 19 11:27:02 <freemangordon> strip -g :P
Oct 19 11:27:08 * Sicelo doesn't know these things, lol.. just poking around
Oct 19 11:28:59 <Sicelo> at what stage shall i add that? i did ./configure CFLAGS=-g
Oct 19 11:29:20 <Sicelo> this is in SB, bytw
Oct 19 11:29:25 <Sicelo> *btw
Oct 19 11:30:03 <bencoh> strip -g your-binary
Oct 19 11:30:15 <freemangordon> naah, run strip -g on the binary, e.g.:
Oct 19 11:30:31 <freemangordon> strip -g $CRASHING_BINARY
Oct 19 11:32:15 <Sicelo> ah, thanks. let's see
Oct 19 11:33:29 <freemangordon> Sicelo: if it is crashing, then you can make another build run and strip the symbols in a file. then, when you run the crashing binary in gdb and it crashes, you can load those symbols and see when it crashes
Oct 19 11:34:13 <Sicelo> doesn't crash after stripping :-/
Oct 19 11:34:38 <bencoh> would have been weird
Oct 19 11:34:40 <freemangordon> Sicelo: what are the default CFLAGS?
Oct 19 11:36:15 <Sicelo> seems like none. i don't know if i'm just being dumb, hehe
Oct 19 11:38:30 <Sicelo> where do i check that?
Oct 19 11:41:07 <freemangordon> when you run make, you see gcc command line?
Oct 19 11:41:28 <bencoh> you can grep CFLAGS config.log
Oct 19 11:41:48 <freemangordon> that one too
Oct 19 11:44:18 <Sicelo> CFLAGS='-g -O2'
Oct 19 11:44:29 <Sicelo> that's from grepping config.log
Oct 19 11:44:59 <Sicelo> for this i did not specify CFLAGS myself
Oct 19 11:45:10 <bencoh> uhwait
Oct 19 11:45:20 <bencoh> so it's already built with -g ?
Oct 19 11:45:50 <Sicelo> yep, seems so. adds more to the crazyness of this
Oct 19 11:46:02 <bencoh> what does make say ?
Oct 19 11:46:07 <Sicelo> apt-get source fuelpad ... that's what i'm playing with
Oct 19 11:46:07 <bencoh> do you actually see the -g ?
Oct 19 11:46:46 <freemangordon> it is because of the -O2 thingie ;)
Oct 19 11:46:52 <freemangordon> (the crash)
Oct 19 11:48:08 <bencoh> (reminds me of a bug that triggered with -O1/-O2 but not -O3, on arm but not on x86*)
Oct 19 11:48:17 <Sicelo> what's the O2 about? 
Oct 19 11:48:23 <bencoh> optim level
Oct 19 11:49:27 <Sicelo> how does specifying CFLAGS=-g 'fix' the O2 issue?
Oct 19 11:49:33 <freemangordon> bencoh: reminds me of Qt 4.7.4 in CSSU :)
Oct 19 11:49:48 <freemangordon> Sicelo: no optimization at all
Oct 19 11:50:08 <Sicelo> i see. interesting
Oct 19 11:51:11 <bencoh> does it crash with CFLAGS="-O0" ?
Oct 19 11:51:52 <bencoh> (it should)
Oct 19 11:52:02 <freemangordon> it should not IMO
Oct 19 11:52:16 <freemangordon> as CFLAGS = -g implies -O0
Oct 19 11:53:47 <bencoh> hmm right it didnt crash with -g, mybad
Oct 19 11:53:51 <bencoh> :)
Oct 19 11:54:20 <bencoh> (short-term memory, where are you ? ^^)
Oct 19 11:55:11 <Sicelo> today i've learned a couple of things. great use of time :)
Oct 19 12:17:14 <bencoh> hmm, the sb thumb toolchain looks a bit like a pain :/
Oct 19 12:17:43 <bencoh> especially the binary linaro compiler part
Oct 19 13:43:26 <bencoh> freemangordon: I know I asked a few months ago, but ... to move from cssu-stable to cssu-thumb, should one open the thumb .install, or change sources.list and apt-get update && upgrade, or some other way ?
Oct 19 13:44:36 <freemangordon> bencoh: opening thumb .install file should be enough
Oct 19 13:46:43 <bencoh> thx
Oct 19 14:18:46 <bencoh> hm ... is backupmenu supposed to play nice with u-boot ?
Oct 19 14:18:56 <Sicelo> yes
Oct 19 14:20:07 <bencoh> why does it try to install bootmenu ?
Oct 19 14:20:41 <Sicelo> hmm, i don't remember it having that dependency
Oct 19 14:21:03 <bencoh> Depends: bootmenu, tar-gnu, i2c-tools, mtd-utils, libacl1
Oct 19 14:21:13 <Sicelo> i can see
Oct 19 14:21:15 <bencoh> both version 1.2.0-2 and 1.2.0-1
Oct 19 14:21:40 <Sicelo> wait.. yes, i have bootmenu
Oct 19 14:22:10 <Pali> because bootmenu show on screen menu where you can choose which userspace to start (maemo, backupmenu, ...)
Oct 19 14:22:41 <bencoh> hmm
Oct 19 14:22:54 <bencoh> it gets loaded from uboot ?
Oct 19 14:22:59 <Pali> no
Oct 19 14:23:00 <bencoh> and before linux kernel ?
Oct 19 14:23:07 <Pali> backupmenu has nothing with uboot
Oct 19 14:23:10 <Sicelo> bencoh: it is multiboot which has never been recommended ;)
Oct 19 14:23:10 <Pali> it is shell script
Oct 19 14:23:32 <bencoh> sounds ... obscure :)
Oct 19 14:23:58 <Pali> backupmenu is started as init daemon :)
Oct 19 14:30:37 <freemangordon> bencoh: make sure to install the one from extras-devel
Oct 19 14:30:54 <freemangordon> the one in extras doesn;t play nicely on cssu
Oct 19 14:46:46 <kerio> backupmenu uses bootmenu
Oct 19 14:46:57 <kerio> which is a really weird kludge installed in /sbin/preinit
Oct 19 14:47:22 <kerio> because we can't expect normal users to install uboot without screwing it up
Oct 19 15:04:31 <Nokiabot> Hi kerio
Oct 19 15:35:52 <bencoh> that's weirder than I thought :p
Oct 19 16:00:34 <raccoon_> is scratchbox 1 (and maemo 5 sdk) still preferred over scratchbox 2, if you need an n900 build environment?
Oct 19 18:18:39 <Nokiabot> the loudest againrt std  debianfork.org see the sec titled how long aqe your beards lol
Oct 20 02:32:19 <gogogogo> hello everybody
Oct 20 02:32:50 <gogogogo> in my X-terminal I keep getting an unmet dependencies error whenever I try to install something
Oct 20 02:33:26 <gogogogo> I tried "apt-get -f install" as prompted but it didn't work
Oct 20 02:33:49 <gogogogo> I also tried out "apt-get autoremove"
Oct 20 02:34:50 <gogogogo> I understand that my FlashPlayer is to blame
Oct 20 02:34:58 <gogogogo> but I can't get rid of it in any way
Oct 20 02:35:34 <gogogogo> Both hildon and x-terminal get stuck because of the dependencies
Oct 20 02:35:46 <gogogogo> what do you think I should do?
Oct 20 02:37:08 <gogogogo> hildon says my home-tutorial-applet needs FlashPlayer installed so I can't uninstall it
Oct 20 02:38:14 <gogogogo> X-Terminal says "The following packages have unmet dependencies: mp-fremantle-generic-pr: Depends: adobe-flashplayer (= 3.0.0.87+0m5) but 11.4.94 is installed
Oct 20 02:38:19 <gogogogo> "
Oct 20 02:40:33 <gogogogo> it must be something stupid but I'm not very good at this kind of things unfortunately
Oct 20 02:43:50 <gogogogo> well.. I'm leaving due to timezone. Please if anybody knows how to help just write something. I'll read tomorrow morning
Oct 20 02:43:55 <gogogogo> bye
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