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Oct 24 09:35:20 <zGrr> moin :)
Oct 24 09:49:20 <Vajb> could anyone check that perl script for dcc behind nat? It accepts my setting for interface. Shows my right ip, but dcc isn't working still.
Oct 24 09:53:49 <Vajb> it's here http://scripts.irssi.org dcc_ip.pl
Oct 24 10:21:16 <Sicelo> Vajb: i don't think that script is expected to work for NAT
Oct 24 10:22:51 <Sicelo> you see .. NAT also tends to block incoming ports always (and in fact, that was one of the 'good' things about it .. that a regular user does not need to worry too much about configuring their own firewall)
Oct 24 10:26:49 <Sicelo> generally the only way to break out of NAT is via a tunnel of some sort .. e.g. vpn
Oct 24 10:27:34 <Sicelo> of course, for your own router which implements NAT, you can port-forward, but you can't do that for your operator.
Oct 24 10:27:46 <Sicelo> that said, maybe if you ask them nicely :)
Oct 24 10:28:24 <Sicelo> Vodacom (South Africa) does have option to request opening of all incoming ports
Oct 24 10:47:04 <obsed> stun?
Oct 24 11:09:35 <Vajb> hmm i see. thx for the info. Guess i'll just deal without :)
Oct 24 11:09:58 <obsed> doesnt voip STUN deal with nat
Oct 24 11:10:39 <obsed> Vajb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN "STUN (Session Traversal Utilities for NAT) is a standardized set of methods and a network protocol to allow an end host to discover its public IP address if it is located behind a NAT. It is used to permit NAT traversal for applications of real-time voice, video, messaging, and other interactive IP communications. 
Oct 24 14:26:49 <Vajb> hmm that's anything but clear
Oct 24 14:37:41 <Vajb> permalink.gmane.org/gmane.network.irc.irssi.devel/188 what about this patch?
Oct 24 14:39:20 <Vajb> nvm forgot that my irssi version is way older than that patch
Oct 24 14:46:52 <Vajb> + mediaplayer finally did what it does (suddenly stops playing after few minutes) and gave nothing for poor old syslog
Oct 24 18:00:12 <Sicelo> STUN is not 'general purpose'.. afaik you can't use it for IRC.
Oct 24 18:06:32 <Sicelo> also, it relies on a STUN server .. 
Oct 24 18:08:45 <Sicelo> and Vajb, the irssi i compile is the latest .. 0.8.17. the one on that link is older. i wonder why the guy didn't upstream his patch
Oct 24 18:11:58 <Vajb> oh i see
Oct 24 18:12:18 <Vajb> did u look at the patch?
Oct 24 18:18:08 <Sicelo> not the contents.. just what he says
Oct 24 18:19:48 <Vajb> but now i have bigger problem
Oct 24 18:20:03 <Vajb> apt is messed because of speedy ham install
Oct 24 18:20:23 <Vajb> or rather coz it got cancelled because of unmet dependencies
Oct 24 18:20:59 <Vajb> it suggest -f install, but with that it want's to uninstall lots of stuff
Oct 24 18:22:03 <Vajb> community-ssu-enabler and hildon-application-manager
Oct 24 18:22:37 <Sicelo> pastebin your repo lists
Oct 24 18:22:45 <Vajb> should i continue and install them back
Oct 24 18:23:05 <Vajb> i have just extras and normal nokia repos enabled
Oct 24 18:26:14 <Sicelo> maybe ask sixwheeledbeast, pali or fmg if speedyham is expected to work fine on cssu-stable. i'm on testing, although it's possible i started using speedyham while still on stable
Oct 24 18:26:31 <Sicelo> i don't remember too well now
Oct 24 18:33:09 <Vajb> ok will do tomorrow.
Oct 24 19:48:25 <Vajb> actually fixed it right now
Oct 24 19:48:40 <Sicelo> great :)
Oct 24 20:03:08 <Vajb> means having stock ham :)
Oct 24 20:18:44 <Vajb> just switched to open media player
Oct 24 20:19:12 <Vajb> maybe it will prove to be more reliable
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