**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 28 03:00:00 2014 Oct 28 03:45:39 Anyone know if I can still find a functional copy of Sygic maps for the N900 somewhere? I bought a copy of the NA maps forever ago, but the installer download no longer works :-/ Oct 28 03:47:19 2011: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1120421#post1120421 Oct 28 03:50:07 Heh... Not working. Oct 28 03:51:03 We have stopped selling Sygic: GPS Navigation for Maemo via Ovi Store in May 2011. The reason for our actions is that Nokia has abandoned Maemo and merged it with Moblin to create MeeGo. Oct 28 03:51:28 We have stopped selling Sygic: GPS Navigation for Bada via Samsung Apps store in March 2012. The reason for our actions is that Samsung has abandoned Bada and will fold it into Tizen open source OS. Oct 28 03:51:49 We have stopped selling Sygic: GPS Navigation for Symbian via the Ovi Store in April 2012. The reason for our actions is that in February 2011 Nokia has announced to move away from Symbian to Windows Phone on their devices. Oct 28 03:52:20 Where is Sygic for MeeGo and Tizen, then? Oct 28 03:56:53 Sygic Aura for MeeGo : Beta, unfound. Oct 28 03:57:01 Jef91 ? ^ Oct 28 03:57:19 Oksana: yea :-. Oct 28 03:57:27 Guess I need to dig around on my old laptop Oct 28 03:57:29 for my backup Oct 28 03:57:36 I *think* I have one Oct 28 03:57:37 :) Oct 28 03:59:10 Here is hoping Oct 28 03:59:20 all the torrents I tried for the softare I paid an arm and a leg for Oct 28 03:59:21 didn't work Oct 28 03:59:23 so :-/ Oct 28 04:04:04 Found? Unfortunately, I did not use Sygic, ever. So I cannot share it with you. ;/ Oct 28 04:04:21 Yea Oct 28 04:05:26 stupid closed source software Oct 28 04:05:43 Last thing I need my old n900 to do is GPS to use it again Oct 28 04:05:49 just ordered a fresh battery for ti Oct 28 04:12:07 Hn... I have two batteries, but the new charger has not arrived yet. Old-cheap charger has broken down, so I have ordered Nokia's original battery charger, and the parcel is one week late. Oct 28 04:12:52 One battery is original Nokia's, another is Polarcell. Both are empty now, and waiting for the charger to arrive. Oct 28 04:13:13 I am used to Modrana, but I wish for Marble to be more user-friendly. Oct 28 04:15:15 Navit is interesting, but I have not tried it, yet: http://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools Oct 28 04:16:14 Used OSM2Go, from time to time, too. Oct 28 04:19:25 yea Oksana if I can't find my sygic backup going to give that a try Oct 28 04:19:33 the UI just looks very crude compared to Sygic Oct 28 04:19:40 Sygic is very professional Oct 28 04:20:15 Then look up Navit ? Oct 28 04:21:23 2d and 3D view option , turn-by-turn voice instructions , the only navigation that works without internet access, reroutes, speaks, and has a good interface with a bit effort Oct 28 04:22:21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navit Oct 28 04:22:35 http://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools#Navit Oct 28 04:24:16 Oksana: is there a repo I can just apt-get navit from? Oct 28 04:24:25 Or do I need to edit a bunch of fies like the wiki says? Oct 28 04:36:05 One moment... Oct 28 04:36:53 this post looks promising -> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1191341&postcount=566 Oct 28 04:36:58 but like, where do I get maps from? Oct 28 04:37:02 Doesn't list that Oct 28 04:38:09 found the map part Oct 28 04:38:40 There are packages and repositories: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1025907&postcount=511 Oct 28 04:39:19 Yes, yes, this same repository. Package updated 08-Sep-2014, should be good enough. Oct 28 04:39:54 If you need to edit desktop shortcuts, there is a GUI: http://maemo.org/packages/view/scm/ Oct 28 04:41:48 navit-gui-qml :) Nice Oct 28 04:43:03 is the qml stable? Oct 28 04:43:08 there is a note that it is fairly unstable Oct 28 04:43:14 Maybe, somebody will put navit 0.5.0 into 'usual' Extras-devel repository for Maemo Oct 28 04:43:59 You can choose navit-gui-internal , instead, if you wish to :) Oct 28 04:45:35 kk going to give this a go Oct 28 04:45:40 US map is almost done downloading now Oct 28 04:49:46 :) Oct 28 05:22:58 Good evening Oct 28 08:23:50 moin :) Oct 28 16:43:02 Brrrrrrr Oct 28 17:45:46 There was a virtual machine image with latest maemo SDK. Anyone has a link? Oct 28 17:46:04 ~Sb Oct 28 17:46:05 extra, extra, read all about it, scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB Oct 28 17:46:39 Cr0w:get it Oct 28 17:48:35 Thanks :3 Is this a the newest I can get? I'd ideally want one with the latest kernel included in cssu, as I want to use cssu anyway. Currently I only need to modify the kernel to make it ignore the hal sensor. Oct 28 17:51:04 I think you'd only need to fetch kp-52 (is it 52 now ?) source package, patch, and rebuild from sb Oct 28 17:51:42 and I kinda remember someone telling me that cssu repositories shouldnt go in a sb env, at least not to release binaries, but .... I dunno Oct 28 17:51:43 Cr0w:i dont know that stuff but the vm should have things needed Oct 28 17:51:53 OK, I'll do that. Oct 28 17:52:46 I ended up adding those as well because I only target my phone when building binaries (I can still use extra-devel to release to others), and because apt-get source is handy Oct 28 17:52:57 (instead of manually grabbing source packages) Oct 28 17:53:19 bencoh I'm not sure what you mean. CSSU is a filesystem image with imporved versions of some Nokia's apps like hildon, correct? Oct 28 17:53:33 Cr0w:btw what are you building? just out of curosity ;) Oct 28 17:53:43 no; afaik there is no cssu image Oct 28 17:54:07 it's a repository with a set of packages meant to upgrade maemo packages Oct 28 17:54:37 like ssu, but community-driven (since ssu isnt updated anymore) Oct 28 17:55:05 Nokiabot firstmost I'd like to be able to build hello world. Then I'll break the kernel so that everything thinks the cover is always on (in the sd card driver). Because I had the misfortune of buying a used phone with broken hal sensor. Oct 28 17:55:44 And next, I want to buy AD54 and port ECI/ACI from android-n900 kernel. Oct 28 17:56:17 Because I really need a way to skip songs/pause when I'm on the go. Oct 28 17:56:43 nice roadmap :) Oct 28 17:56:59 Cr0w:good luck on that btw i remember some workarounds of that sort search tmo maybe am ri8 Oct 28 17:57:47 And next I'm thinking of making some apps that don't suck, like an image viewer that can navigate directories, has a native feel and doesn't hang up when it sees 10k images. Oct 28 17:58:26 sounds cool Oct 28 17:59:37 I've been thinking of patching marble to support case-insensitive offline search, but this code really is ugly and I didnt build the courage to patch it :/ Oct 28 17:59:55 And maybe if I'll somehow get the time, I would love to write a NEON-optimized JIT compiler for MIPS for the purpose of playing some of the greatest games in the history of computing. Oct 28 18:00:50 haha <3 Oct 28 18:02:50 Though I honeslty haven't yet tried the psx emus for maemo. But I've seen the movies on yt and it's terrible. I think you can squeeze more out of that OMAP. Oct 28 18:33:46 CR0W: check carefully on TMO.. i seem to remember something of ECI/ACI has been implemented already.. not sure how good it is Oct 28 18:56:55 Sicelo TMO? Oct 28 18:57:47 I booted the image, ran maemo5 sdk and the virtual envirioment doesn't have a terminal. Heh. Oct 28 18:58:32 seriously ? Oct 28 18:58:45 tmo is talk.maemo.org btw Oct 28 18:59:24 see http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Installing_Maemo_5_SDK_on_32-.2F64-bit_Debian.2FUbuntu-based_distributions if you're not happy with this vm btw Oct 28 18:59:57 I have Archlinux, which is not Debian based. Oct 28 19:00:50 But anyway, will do. Oct 28 19:01:37 I don't want to run that script not even knowing what it does exactly, especially since it's ran as root. I need to study it first. Oct 28 19:03:19 it sends your credit card info to M$, who then sends statements to your wife of all the lapdances you get ;) Oct 28 19:04:32 Sicelo I don't assume it's harmful intentionally. Oct 28 19:05:18 But firstly, it installs some software completely ignoring the package manager, and secondly, it's designed to work with Debian/Ubuntu, not other distros. Oct 28 19:10:23 I need to go, thanks guys! Oct 28 19:36:29 i have new error filling up my syslog Oct 28 19:41:11 cellular: csd[805]: ISI_SMS .255829> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 Oct 28 19:41:35 cellular: csd[805]: ISI_SMS .256226> set_timeout(): Timeout 3063 s event type:-1 Oct 28 19:42:27 i tried google searching but didn't got much. Oct 28 19:43:00 any ideas? Oct 28 19:45:31 phone works just as before, but it annoys me coz it wasn't there before and it's flooding my syslog Oct 28 19:47:02 Vajb: NSA Oct 28 19:47:03 =) Oct 28 19:47:46 ah then i don't have anything to worry Oct 28 19:48:13 i just squeeze my foil hat a tad tighter :p Oct 28 19:49:14 CR0W: I'd run it in a vm (I have a qemu/kvm here) Oct 28 21:54:13 fcam-drivers have been broken for a while with recent kernel-power, but it just needs a rebuild (tested here in scratchbox) Oct 28 21:55:16 is there a way to force a rebuild in extra ? Oct 28 23:07:38 I'm looking for the monav offline routing data pack for Belgium, but http://monav.openstreetmap.de/ seems to be empty... anybody know where they are kept these days? Oct 29 00:05:44 hmm, modrana.org seems to be down too Oct 29 00:06:17 does anybody happen to have a copy of offline routing data (car) for belgium? Oct 29 00:33:45 BCMM: does it use monav for offline routing ? Oct 29 00:33:57 you might be able to fetch those from monav if yes Oct 29 00:40:50 bencoh: monav site seems to also be down :( Oct 29 00:41:39 bencoh: maemo wiki says to use either modrana site or monav site; seems like modrana has it seperated in to car, bike, ped. and monav has combined Oct 29 00:42:05 but monav site is an empty directory listing and modrana is 403 Oct 29 00:42:34 (google/wayback says they were both working earlier this month...) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 29 03:00:00 2014