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Oct 31 12:27:18 <grammoboy> thought google was an open service, but can't access google maps from N9
Oct 31 12:27:45 <grammoboy> in the webbrowser
Oct 31 12:28:18 <grammoboy> :(
Oct 31 12:28:56 <Vajb> maybe u can twek the browsr to identify as desktop browser?
Oct 31 12:29:01 <Vajb> tweak*
Oct 31 12:29:07 <Vajb> browser*
Oct 31 12:30:15 <Vajb> that's possible at least on n900 version of opera
Oct 31 12:30:29 <grammoboy> yeah is possible but seems sloooowwww
Oct 31 13:32:02 <Vajb> maybe there is separate client for google maps?
Oct 31 13:54:56 <grammoboy> separate client?
Oct 31 14:12:21 <erlehmann> funny
Oct 31 14:12:21 <erlehmann> you are the source of the poettering death threats!
Oct 31 14:12:22 <erlehmann> and i thought i was it
Oct 31 14:13:07 <erlehmann> as i once joked that i'll leave the cries of „death to the demon systemd and its priest lennart poettering“ to others
Oct 31 14:13:24 <erlehmann> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/10/30/229221/ask-slashdot-can-you-say-something-nice-about-systemd
Oct 31 14:15:31 <jaska> no :)
Oct 31 14:29:27 <kerio> "Remember how awesome pulseaudio is? Well what if we made your ENTIRE SYSTEM that awesome?"
Oct 31 14:29:28 <kerio> rofl
Oct 31 14:44:45 <bencoh> kerio: lennart plague again ?
Oct 31 14:45:54 <Vajb> back
Oct 31 14:54:40 <ShadowJK> kerio; http://i.imgur.com/SAp0D.png
Oct 31 15:48:48 <Vajb> tried to get bq27200.sh script but site seems to be down
Oct 31 15:49:30 <ShadowJK> that's strange
Oct 31 15:52:41 <ShadowJK> the dns provider is down
Oct 31 15:58:11 <Vajb> ok. So eventually it will be up again?
Oct 31 16:11:15 <sixwheeledbeast> ~slay systemd
Oct 31 16:11:18 * infobot brandishes Excalibur!  "With this sword, I vanquish thee, systemd!"  apt lops off systemd's head.
Oct 31 17:07:59 <Vajb> what u use for ad blocking?
Oct 31 17:15:17 <ShadowJK> vajb: yes
Oct 31 17:24:17 <Vajb> ShadowJK: great, thx
Oct 31 22:31:39 <erlehmann> so GF has a n900 and it does have old firmware
Oct 31 22:31:50 <erlehmann> can we use 0xffff to flash that? 0xffff is in debian!
Oct 31 22:32:08 <APic> *ggg*
Oct 31 22:32:12 <erlehmann> firmware is from 2009 it seems
Oct 31 22:32:16 <APic> Berlinbernd eignet wieder!
Oct 31 22:32:38 <erlehmann> ach APic
Oct 31 22:32:45 <erlehmann> this does not mention 0xffff http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#N900
Oct 31 22:35:07 <ShadowJK> "old firmware"?
Oct 31 22:36:11 <ShadowJK> I mean, if her N900 has been in active use, I would've thought it would have received updates to the most recent Nokia firmware
Oct 31 22:38:37 <erlehmann> ShadowJK she told me that in “product info” version contains 2009
Oct 31 22:38:38 <erlehmann> since she is currently talking to someone on this phone, i cannot check
Oct 31 22:53:45 <erlehmann> ShadowJK it apparently was not in active use
Oct 31 22:53:55 <erlehmann> bought on ebay
Oct 31 22:54:17 <erlehmann> last owner apparently phoned often with his or her mom
Oct 31 22:54:22 <erlehmann> in 2011 or before
Oct 31 22:54:49 <ShadowJK> ~tabletsdev
Oct 31 22:54:49 <infobot> hmm... tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads
Oct 31 22:55:08 <ShadowJK> oh great, wiki is giving me premission denied
Oct 31 22:55:47 <ShadowJK> oh that last link still works
Oct 31 22:56:26 <ShadowJK> Though has no firmware... wonder if parent directory link works. yes, but no firmware
Oct 31 22:56:56 <erlehmann> what does that mean?
Oct 31 22:57:23 <Sicelo>  just see /topic for those things ;)
Oct 31 22:57:29 <erlehmann> oh very funny http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php
Oct 31 22:57:44 <ShadowJK> Sicelo, I was doing that
Oct 31 22:57:49 <ShadowJK> ~combined
Oct 31 22:57:49 <infobot> hmm... combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
Oct 31 22:58:13 <ShadowJK> So 38-1 from 2011?
Oct 31 22:58:22 <erlehmann> sounds legit.
Oct 31 22:58:33 <erlehmann> is that the newest?
Oct 31 22:58:46 <ShadowJK> yes
Oct 31 22:59:08 <ShadowJK> And then, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU
Oct 31 22:59:15 <ShadowJK> Though the wiki is down for me?
Oct 31 22:59:44 <Sicelo> opens fine for me
Oct 31 23:00:35 <erlehmann> opens for me as well
Oct 31 23:00:36 <M4rtinK> hmm, I might have just built a modRana package for Fedora :D
Oct 31 23:00:43 <M4rtinK> any testers ? :D
Oct 31 23:01:01 <erlehmann> ; md5sum RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin 
Oct 31 23:01:01 <erlehmann> 095259c2380e894dc1d6a2999526ec9f  RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Oct 31 23:01:24 <erlehmann> 095259c2380e894dc1d6a2999526ec9f  RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Oct 31 23:01:26 <erlehmann> great success
Oct 31 23:01:52 <erlehmann> ShadowJK thx. why do UK devices have a differing firmware?
Oct 31 23:02:02 <erlehmann> http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_UK_variant_firmware
Oct 31 23:02:03 <ShadowJK> Some operator crap, iirc
Oct 31 23:03:01 <ShadowJK> I'm still getting 403 forbidden on wiki :(
Oct 31 23:03:21 <ShadowJK> global works on all devices
Oct 31 23:04:17 <erlehmann> does 0xffff work as a flasher tool?
Oct 31 23:04:43 <ShadowJK> I've never used it
Oct 31 23:04:58 <fmunozs> I think it does
Oct 31 23:05:34 <erlehmann> does any one of you have experience with screen replacements?
Oct 31 23:05:43 <erlehmann> or know how to source a spare screen?
Oct 31 23:05:54 <erlehmann> scratched screen is ugly
Oct 31 23:10:14 <kolp> erlehmann: you just need the touch thing, not the actual display
Oct 31 23:14:24 <erlehmann> kolp where could one source the patr?
Oct 31 23:14:53 <kolp> I got mine off ebay, but it's getting difficult these days
Oct 31 23:59:58 <erlehmann> thanx and good night
Nov 01 00:52:19 <erlehmann> ha, GF just bought another n900. display problems begone!
Nov 01 00:52:27 <erlehmann> :---DDDDD
Nov 01 01:28:33 <ShadowJK> erlehmann, dude, I wamt your gf
Nov 01 01:28:47 <ShadowJK> Hope she dumps you 
Nov 01 01:28:55 <ShadowJK> j(k lol :D
Nov 01 01:29:20 <ShadowJK> Jokes aside,
Nov 01 01:29:28 <erlehmann> shadowjk, we are not monogamous
Nov 01 01:29:49 <erlehmann> so thats not strictly necessary
Nov 01 01:30:05 <ShadowJK> If she has unupgraded N900, with issues, and buys another one, she probably appreciates the keyboard or something?
Nov 01 01:30:45 <erlehmann> yeah, that and the maemo interface.
Nov 01 01:30:51 <ShadowJK> Also kinda weird that her bf would appear here
Nov 01 01:31:05 <erlehmann> why, i had a n900 first!
Nov 01 01:31:10 <ShadowJK> Oh?
Nov 01 01:31:16 <erlehmann> i am typing on it right now
Nov 01 01:31:45 <ShadowJK> Did you both have N900s and randomly meet or what's the story here
Nov 01 01:32:20 <erlehmann> meet first, separately from each other buy n900 later.
Nov 01 01:32:36 <erlehmann> sometimes people who like each other have similar tastes
Nov 01 01:32:39 <erlehmann> it happens!
Nov 01 01:33:10 <erlehmann> we both use the neo2 keyboard layout for example
Nov 01 01:33:15 <ShadowJK> Then spend years without ever visiting #maemo, and suddenly turn up one day?
Nov 01 01:33:49 <erlehmann> i used a htc dream and used it until recently
Nov 01 01:34:14 <erlehmann> android is pig disgusting
Nov 01 01:34:19 <erlehmann> i cannot even change font
Nov 01 01:34:23 <ShadowJK> is kinda same time period, iirc
Nov 01 01:34:27 <erlehmann> i have to go to sleep
Nov 01 01:34:54 <ShadowJK> awesome, really
Nov 01 01:35:01 <ShadowJK> too bad he quit :(
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