**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 10 03:00:00 2014 Nov 10 09:09:50 moin :) Nov 10 09:33:41 first time maemo user as of a couple days ago. not too shabby from my n900 perspective. Nov 10 09:33:45 :) Nov 10 09:35:41 :) Nov 10 09:37:38 :) Nov 10 09:39:02 sad thing is though... back sometime around 2007, i was torn between the e90 and the n900. ... i bought the e90. ... here i am in 2014, and what's the best out there that i want? the n900. XD Nov 10 09:40:25 long live maemo'able hardware! Nov 10 10:15:37 The N900 is the best phone ever made Nov 10 10:15:48 But that's only because the Neo900 isn't a thing yet :) Nov 10 10:19:28 Updating Gecko seems to be going from "hard" to "nearly impossible" Nov 10 10:35:17 "nearly impossible"? How so? Nov 10 10:55:21 getting proper backcompat to keep key plugins working is too hard Nov 10 10:55:31 actually maybe not Nov 10 10:56:13 for flash it wont be that hard Nov 10 10:56:24 but maps is going to be a pain Nov 10 10:59:05 doesnt map use the special "nokia" api that has been removed ? Nov 10 10:59:44 and ... updating gecko would probably break everything, ABI-wise Nov 10 10:59:44 which special nokia api? Nov 10 11:00:19 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653201 Nov 10 11:00:23 04Bug 653201: was not found. Nov 10 11:00:32 povbot: yeah, sure, whatever :p Nov 10 11:00:34 bencoh: Error: "yeah," is not a valid command. Nov 10 11:00:38 meh :) Nov 10 11:00:51 That bug claims the only user of that API was flash Nov 10 11:01:36 But any ABI breakages can be fixed with appropriate local changes to bring back to removed ABIs Nov 10 11:01:36 hmm ... I guess we'll see if and when we try glueing everything together :) Nov 10 13:33:53 what irc clients do you folk recomend for maemo/n900? and/or, whats a good way to paste into terminals? not having an easy time with irssi without my middle click or ins or even shift control c. Nov 10 13:39:02 I use xterm with some Xdefaults to paste with shift+click Nov 10 13:40:16 something with ! Shift: Nov 10 14:12:18 digit: nice to have a newbie to the community, welcome :) Nov 10 14:12:18 Paste in maemo xterm is in the menu bar at the top Nov 10 14:12:18 ~ping Nov 10 14:12:19 ~pong Nov 10 14:13:03 ~logs Nov 10 14:13:04 All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. Nov 10 14:14:18 * sixwheeledbeast wonders if anyone heard the last two lines, due to disconnection. :( Nov 10 14:23:19 ...me on the n900 Nov 10 14:23:37 wrong chan oops Nov 10 14:24:11 sixwheeledbeast: we had those Nov 10 14:24:28 bencoh: k ta Nov 10 14:24:44 (what the hell did I just type >_>) Nov 10 14:25:51 bencoh: k == ok, ta == thank you. :) Nov 10 14:26:17 infobot: logs is also http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ Nov 10 14:26:19 sixwheeledbeast: okay Nov 10 14:26:23 ~logs Nov 10 14:26:25 All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ Nov 10 18:21:30 so it seems HTC HD2 did become a killer device like N900 in its own way Nov 10 19:52:47 how usable is shr currently on the n900? Nov 10 19:56:53 i think they stopped developing it (especially for N900) Nov 10 20:00:06 shr? Nov 10 20:00:49 Sicelo: aw Nov 10 20:04:58 Wizzup: i might have misunderstood .. but maybe /join #openmoko-cdevel and ask there Nov 10 20:05:10 * Wizzup will do that later Nov 10 20:05:23 thx Nov 11 02:20:18 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 11 03:00:00 2014