**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 14 03:00:00 2014
Nov 14 09:37:35 <Vajb> is it possible to make open media player pause when i drop volume to zero?
Nov 14 09:53:14 <Humpelstilzchen> probably
Nov 14 09:53:31 <Humpelstilzchen> there is a software thats pausing the player on jack unplug
Nov 14 10:55:20 <Vajb> it's default on openmediaplayer. no need for extra plugin anymore
Nov 14 10:55:38 <Vajb> or configurable rather...
Nov 14 11:28:32 <vakkov> is maemo.merlin1991.at still working
Nov 14 11:34:38 <kolp> vakkov: works for me
Nov 14 11:35:36 <Pali> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg81419.html
Nov 14 11:37:31 <vakkov> 0% [Connecting to maemo.merlin1991.at (188.40.39.11)]   stays like that here
Nov 14 12:59:40 <dreamer> heh, first time I'm running in to: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6295
Nov 14 12:59:41 <povbot> 04Bug 6295: Songs on double albums are played in wrong order ("disc number" field in ID3)
Nov 14 13:00:02 <dreamer> think I'll just remove disk 2 so I can listen in sequence ;)
Nov 14 13:00:23 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: What scenario would you need to set volume to zero?
Nov 14 13:02:49 <sixwheeledbeast> dreamer: yes, I have to save albums as 'In Your Honour [Disc 1]' 'In Your Honour [Disc 2]' even though the disc number is correct on the metadata
Nov 14 13:04:50 <sixwheeledbeast> Alternatively If you still wish to keep the album together re-number the tracks, So ... 
Nov 14 13:05:25 <Vajb> sixwheeledbeast: im listening to music while working and keeping my phone in pocket. When somebody wants to talk to me i just drop volume to zero. So it would be handy if player pauses when that happens
Nov 14 13:06:13 <sixwheeledbeast> '101 - In Your Honour.mp3', '201 - Still.mp3', '102 - No Way Back.mp3' ... etc etc
Nov 14 13:07:15 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: Is this because the phone is locked and you can use the volume rocker?
Nov 14 13:07:51 <Vajb> yeah i can use that quickly without removing my phone from pocket
Nov 14 13:08:21 <Vajb> also i modified my earplugs a bit so they r not quick enough to remove either
Nov 14 13:08:45 <Vajb> because i need them to block external noise (i work at the factory)
Nov 14 13:09:00 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: well my quick solution/suggestion for that is to set camera button as a pause/resume key.
Nov 14 13:09:46 <Vajb> actually a great idea! Can i set that from player settings or i need some plugin?
Nov 14 13:10:36 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: Or if you use the Nokia supplied headset and CSSU Testing the button will pause MAFW via OMP.
Nov 14 13:10:38 <zGrr> Will it work with Panucci?
Nov 14 13:11:04 <sixwheeledbeast> zGrr: if you can control that via D-Bus yes
Nov 14 13:11:32 <Vajb> i use cssu testing but have buttonless headset
Nov 14 13:11:33 <Pali> cssu enable using headset button even if voice call is not active
Nov 14 13:11:55 <Pali> if your application support buttons via hal, then it will receive headset button press event
Nov 14 13:12:40 <sixwheeledbeast> Pail: only on CSSU Testing 
Nov 14 13:12:46 <Pali> ok
Nov 14 13:12:47 <Vajb> so how i set camera button to act as play/pause?
Nov 14 13:13:04 <Pali> I think you need to grab that button from X
Nov 14 13:13:24 <Pali> it working for volume keys
Nov 14 13:13:39 <Pali> but I have no idea if camera button is real X key
Nov 14 13:14:12 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: Well you have two options, get original N900 headset (only cheap) or setup the camera button.
Nov 14 13:15:01 <Vajb> sixwheeledbeast: i wanna set my camera button. How i do that?
Nov 14 13:15:35 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: I can't go into detail now I have to leave but if you find my wiki page there is a script to disable camera key locking and then use shortcutd to run your dbus command on cam_focus.
Nov 14 13:15:40 <sixwheeledbeast> ~beasttweaks
Nov 14 13:15:41 <infobot> it has been said that beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts
Nov 14 13:15:59 * sixwheeledbeast goes afk
Nov 14 13:16:27 <Vajb> ok i'll see if i can figure it out. Thx.
Nov 14 13:20:02 <sec> Jessie is frozen
Nov 14 13:20:10 <sec> \o/
Nov 14 13:20:34 <Pali> with systemd :-( :-( :-(
Nov 14 13:21:06 <Pali> http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/592
Nov 14 13:23:01 <kerio> does it ship with debian's systemd?
Nov 14 13:24:17 <kerio> Pali: lmao, the default dns is google's
Nov 14 13:24:24 <bencoh> srsly ?
Nov 14 13:24:41 <bencoh> I didnt even think there was a default dns
Nov 14 13:24:56 <jaska> guess ill have to uninstall systemd when jessie comes and reinstall sysvinit :D
Nov 14 13:25:07 <Pali> dnsmasq now supports dnssec
Nov 14 13:25:11 <bencoh> jaska: it might break a few things
Nov 14 13:25:29 <Pali> so you can enable it instead that systemd fucking shit
Nov 14 13:25:37 <bencoh> you might need systemd-shim or something like that
Nov 14 13:25:50 <kerio> i don't think you're even supposed to use systemd-resolved
Nov 14 13:26:00 <kerio> it's like for internal use
Nov 14 13:26:03 <Pali> I have better solution: do not install systemd and use wheezy
Nov 14 13:26:10 <Pali> or better to not upgrade
Nov 14 13:26:14 <zGrr> I think, I'll migrate my desktop PC back to FreeBSD altogether. 
Nov 14 13:26:14 <kerio> and for the system, before it's fully booted
Nov 14 13:26:24 <kerio> yeah i'm looking for an alternative
Nov 14 13:26:25 <kerio> but meh
Nov 14 13:26:29 <jaska> dunno what im going to do at work, i have tons of wheezys
Nov 14 13:26:34 <kerio> my home server runs sid
Nov 14 13:26:44 <Pali> bsd has one problem: no hw support in kernel (for desktop/mobile/laptops...)
Nov 14 13:26:51 <Pali> what about linux kernel + bsd userspace?
Nov 14 13:26:53 <Pali> it is possible?
Nov 14 13:27:20 <Pali> is there any distribution with these options?
Nov 14 13:27:20 <kerio> just install gentoo idk
Nov 14 13:27:43 <Pali> I would like to have something like debian or ubuntu lts where are not upgraded all packages
Nov 14 13:27:48 <Pali> just backported security fixes
Nov 14 13:27:59 <bencoh> there is squeeze-lts
Nov 14 13:28:02 <bencoh> but it's ... old
Nov 14 13:28:08 <Pali> wheezy is ok
Nov 14 13:28:10 <zGrr> Pali: it's not that bad with desktop components. 
Nov 14 13:28:30 <Pali> zGrr: but I'm afraid of laptop
Nov 14 13:28:41 <bencoh> we might get wheezy-lts before wheezy EOL
Nov 14 13:28:44 <Pali> where I want also some powersave settings and better battery usage
Nov 14 13:28:47 <bencoh> but still meh
Nov 14 13:28:48 <kerio> Pali: buy a macbook! :D
Nov 14 13:28:53 <kerio> launchd is nice!
Nov 14 13:28:53 <bencoh> haha
Nov 14 13:29:04 <Pali> bencoh: I think that wheeze-lts is oj
Nov 14 13:29:15 <bencoh> launchd is actually "better" than systemd ... but it's xml all the way :p
Nov 14 13:29:15 <Pali> macbook is another piece of shit with their non working SW
Nov 14 13:29:21 <kerio> bencoh: *plist
Nov 14 13:29:28 <bencoh> kerio: yeah, even worse
Nov 14 13:29:31 <sec> ~apple
Nov 14 13:29:31 <infobot> somebody said apple was a fruit or a company that makes iPods, iPads, iPhones, and Macs, or the thing that Satan used to tempt Eve
Nov 14 13:29:42 <kerio> there's also a binary format for plists! :D
Nov 14 13:29:44 <zGrr> Pali:  I am afraid of virtualization. It had always been lagging behind Linux.
Nov 14 13:30:01 <bencoh> kerio: I dont even want to talk about that dirty thing :]
Nov 14 13:30:22 <kerio> idk, i'm kinda growing used to the microkernel architecture
Nov 14 13:30:32 <kerio> like, the pager is just another daemon
Nov 14 13:30:37 <bencoh> hmm, yeah
Nov 14 13:30:43 <Pali> apple and microkernel?? hahahahaha
Nov 14 13:30:54 <sec> Why did Apple need Tim Cook when Jobs was thinner and lighter already ..
Nov 14 13:31:00 <kerio> so you can just stop it if you're going to never run out of ram
Nov 14 13:31:28 <kerio> Pali: darwin is a microkernel
Nov 14 13:31:33 <bencoh> osx is too greedy for that
Nov 14 13:31:36 <kerio> by definition
Nov 14 13:31:42 <bencoh> some kernel drivers are leaky
Nov 14 13:31:43 <Pali> look how are some parts glued into that micorkernel
Nov 14 13:32:03 <Pali> so hahahaha, no microkernel
Nov 14 13:32:03 <sec> Darwin can afford to be a microkernel because of the limited hardware it is supposed to support
Nov 14 13:32:05 <bencoh> Pali: dont you like iokit magic ? :p
Nov 14 13:32:31 <Pali> anyway, back... do you know some distribution which using linux kernel and bsd userspace?
Nov 14 13:32:40 <bencoh> I personally dont
Nov 14 13:32:42 <Pali> I think this could be really good alternative
Nov 14 13:32:53 <Pali> no systemd and other lennarts shits
Nov 14 13:32:58 <bencoh> and I'd rather go for freebsd (for instance)
Nov 14 13:33:03 <Pali> with kernel for good hw support
Nov 14 13:33:24 <bencoh> anyway we'll soon have kdbus in linux
Nov 14 13:33:43 <bencoh> so its doomed already :p
Nov 14 13:33:56 <jaska> can always say N to the menuconfig for it :)
Nov 14 13:33:56 <Pali> this is only imagination of greg and lennart
Nov 14 13:34:22 <kerio> bencoh: eeh
Nov 14 13:34:26 <kerio> i don't think so
Nov 14 13:34:38 <bencoh> I hope you're right
Nov 14 13:34:38 <Pali> greg is not big boss
Nov 14 13:34:46 <kerio> i don't think linus will fall for it
Nov 14 13:34:54 <kerio> and he's still the dude with commit access
Nov 14 13:34:58 <bencoh> :)
Nov 14 13:35:09 <Pali> and maybe something with name kdbus could be in kernel... but only if it will be usable
Nov 14 13:35:27 <Pali> if they create some useful IPC, then it can be really in kernel
Nov 14 13:35:32 <Pali> and name does not matter
Nov 14 13:35:44 <Pali> but do you remember?
Nov 14 13:35:52 <Pali> AF_BUS was already rejected
Nov 14 13:36:04 <Pali> and other previous versions too...
Nov 14 13:36:07 <jaska> theyre trying to sneak outside the network stack now :)
Nov 14 13:36:17 <Pali> so some piece of shit will not hit mainline kernel
Nov 14 13:38:13 <Pali> and why not to fork debian or maintain systemd less version of debian?
Nov 14 13:39:53 <Pali> guy who broke 1/3 of all computers should not continue to do this disaster...
Nov 14 13:40:08 * kolp likes the idea of Qubes OS
Nov 14 13:40:23 <sec> Pali really hates systemd :P
Nov 14 13:40:35 <sec> Or Lennart or w/e
Nov 14 13:41:12 <bencoh> meanwhile, I'm fighting with sysvinit because this is truly a shitty piece of code ....
Nov 14 13:41:15 <bencoh> INIT: /etc/inittab[43]: process field too long
Nov 14 13:41:29 <bencoh> line was something like 160chars
Nov 14 13:41:30 <Pali> openrc?
Nov 14 13:43:18 <bencoh> harcoded limit at 127, with magicnums in code
Nov 14 13:43:39 <bencoh> (and hardcoded if (strlen(bleh) > 127) )
Nov 14 13:48:39 <Luke-Jr> sec: who *doesn't* hate systemd? :P
Nov 14 13:49:52 <sec> I don't hate it. I don't love it either :/
Nov 14 13:50:07 <sec> I really don't care at this point
Nov 14 13:53:48 <zGrr> I am still hoping that systemd quality might be biggest obstacle preventing widespread implementation
Nov 14 14:02:26 <dreamer> sixwheeledbeast: that's for the directory-name?
Nov 14 14:02:37 <dreamer> or you have to put that in the id3?
Nov 14 14:07:40 <dreamer> hmm, I have a couple applications that won't upgrade. recently did a reinstall from a backup .. might be because I used some other repositories and those haven't been set?
Nov 14 14:09:25 <dreamer> some qt-libraries that are conflicting
Nov 14 14:54:23 <sec> I think the GPS chip on mine is fried or something
Nov 14 14:54:26 <sec> ._.
Nov 14 15:27:24 <Sicelo> sec: that would be unfortunate. what leads you to that conclusion?
Nov 14 15:28:15 <jaska> ~calibration
Nov 14 15:28:19 <jaska> hmmh
Nov 14 15:30:05 <jaska> hmh, there is a script to do it.. but what was it
Nov 14 15:31:35 <sec> Sicelo: not getting a GPS lock forever
Nov 14 15:46:14 <Sicelo> tried location-test gui? 
Nov 14 15:46:31 <sixwheeledbeast> dreamer: directory or file names, were my examples. yes
Nov 14 15:47:15 <Sicelo> lock can take long usually, esp. if you aren't using a supl server. note that supl.google hasn't worked for a long time on N900 (or did the situation change?)
Nov 14 15:48:21 <sixwheeledbeast> sec: If you leave device outside for a good hour on a clear day and get no fix there is something broken.
Nov 14 15:48:56 <sixwheeledbeast> supl.nokia.com is now the only working server for our devices I believe. You need the fix from CSSU tho.
Nov 14 15:49:13 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: Did you work it out?
Nov 14 15:50:13 * sixwheeledbeast hopes ubuntu will come to there senses and just carry on using upstart.
Nov 14 15:50:23 <sixwheeledbeast> ~slay systemd
Nov 14 15:50:23 * infobot brandishes Excalibur!  "With this sword, I vanquish thee, systemd!"  apt lops off systemd's head.
Nov 14 15:51:15 <sec> sixwheeledbeast: I'll try again when it's clear outside. Thanks
Nov 14 15:53:15 <Vajb> sixwheeledbeast: yes. I used ur scripts to use camera button while locked and then installed shortcutd
Nov 14 15:53:39 <sixwheeledbeast> sec: You can get a fix without A-GPS, it takes time to get the almanac data and if the signal is blocked it can take forever.
Nov 14 15:53:54 <Vajb> also disabled camera coming up when pressing the button and now it seems to work
Nov 14 15:54:21 <Vajb> will see next week how usable it is but so far it seems superb. Thanks a lot
Nov 14 15:54:31 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: I used camera _focus and don't press too hard.
Nov 14 15:55:09 <sixwheeledbeast> also you can have long press for skip track and short press for play/resume
Nov 14 15:56:28 <Vajb> yeah i saw that from menu
Nov 14 15:56:34 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: You shouldn't need to block the camera as the camera key button will still be locked. Only cam_focus is unlock with the script.
Nov 14 15:56:54 <sixwheeledbeast> s/unlock/unlocked
Nov 14 15:57:18 <Vajb> oh i thought i should block it coz it was coming up when i tried without locked screen
Nov 14 15:57:57 <Vajb> and it's kinda hard to estimate pressure strenght since im pressing it through pocket so there is fabric inbetween
Nov 14 15:58:23 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: If the screen is locked you can press the camera key and nothing will happen as the key is locked. 
Nov 14 15:59:01 <dreamer> sixwheeledbeast: well, in my case the albums are in different subdirs. disc1/ and disc2/ but in the mediaplayer they are all jumbled up
Nov 14 15:59:03 <sixwheeledbeast> It takes practice to get cam_focus press perfect, but after a while it's second nature
Nov 14 15:59:32 <Vajb> yeah will start trying it next week
Nov 14 15:59:59 <Vajb> is there easy way to make same setting for panucci or nqapp?
Nov 14 16:00:07 <Vajb> they r audiobook players
Nov 14 16:00:11 <sixwheeledbeast> dreamer: that makes no sense, if they are in different dirs I can't see how they are getting mixed up.
Nov 14 16:00:38 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: You will have to edit the D-Bus command
Nov 14 16:01:48 <dreamer> sixwheeledbeast: well, subdirs. so maybe it takes the top-level and puts them in there? they have a 'Disc: 1/2' in the id3
Nov 14 16:02:08 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: So instead of selecting the preset "mediaplayer play/pause", you can use custom and type the command for it.
Nov 14 16:02:20 <Vajb> drop me a line for solution to panucci when u have time since i have no idea how to make stuff work without tutorials :)
Nov 14 16:02:37 <sixwheeledbeast> ~phonecontrol
Nov 14 16:02:38 <infobot> somebody said phonecontrol was http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control
Nov 14 16:03:09 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: I don't use panucci but see above for how dbus calls work
Nov 14 16:03:20 <Vajb> yeah im looking
Nov 14 16:04:26 <Vajb> but as i understand i will have to change setting according to program i use? Or i can keep both settings under same setting and they get enabled only when that program is active?
Nov 14 16:04:47 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Other
Nov 14 16:04:59 <Vajb> meaning that camera key will play pause which ever player is active
Nov 14 16:05:04 <sixwheeledbeast> You will hae to edit the setting unfortunately.
Nov 14 16:05:31 <sixwheeledbeast> Unless you can make a clever script to do everything and call that instead.
Nov 14 16:05:41 <Vajb> well it's not big hussle after i master the commands
Nov 14 16:06:09 <Vajb> i can always save setting as text file and just copypaste it there as needed
Nov 14 16:06:34 <sixwheeledbeast> that is another option I suppose.
Nov 14 16:08:23 <Vajb> just to make things clear. I found a section which says panucci pause. So i just paste that as a custom command and it should work yes?
Nov 14 16:12:57 <raccoon_> dreamer: what id3 tag is that? and is the value exactly like you pasted: 'Disc: 1/2'? i think the "disc" tag is supposed to have integer values not strings...
Nov 14 16:13:01 <Vajb> hah success
Nov 14 16:13:16 <raccoon_> if the two albums have the same 'album' tag but unparseable 'disc' tags they will surely get mixed up.
Nov 14 16:13:45 <Vajb> custom command for panucci is now under short press and for mediaplayer under longpress
Nov 14 16:17:33 <Vajb> maybe to just add cd1 and cd2 to album names.
Nov 14 16:21:39 <Vajb> hmm actually needed to change the order since panucci is bouncing up when it's dbus command is triggered and media player does not
Nov 14 16:22:43 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: I was afk, yes.
Nov 14 16:25:41 <Vajb> heh cant wait to get back to work and test this setup lol
Nov 14 16:26:35 <sixwheeledbeast> I imagine a script could be made and called as a custom command, so (if, panucci is running, do panucci_pause, else call mafw_pause) Would need to play about and work it out. Be a good script to learn on. 
Nov 14 16:31:19 <Vajb> hmm true
Nov 14 16:31:55 <Vajb> i'll see how it goes and maybe one day i try some scripting
Nov 14 16:32:18 <sixwheeledbeast> oh well have fun at work ;)
Nov 14 16:32:35 <Vajb> haha thanks
Nov 14 16:32:53 <Vajb> tho i have to struggle through weekend first
Nov 14 16:35:53 <sixwheeledbeast> Vajb: My plan is to make a plug in adapter for my headphones. so a male 4-pin connector to a switch and then a female 3-pin connector for my standard headphones. Then the switch will be my pause/play and the cam_focus can be skip track (or vice-versa).
Nov 14 16:36:05 <sixwheeledbeast> I may get round to it one day....
Nov 14 16:37:03 <Vajb> cool idea
Nov 14 16:37:37 <sixwheeledbeast> For now the WH-205 headset works fine and is cheap so not worth the time.
Nov 14 16:38:13 <Vajb> i customixed my maxell sport headset with in ear plugs
Nov 14 16:38:42 <Vajb> u know that ear thingy which protects ur hearing
Nov 14 16:39:32 <Vajb> so i just punched hole through it and put some heat moldable plastic over headset speakers and voila
Nov 14 16:40:01 <Vajb> much lower external noise plus better bass
Nov 14 16:41:06 <Vajb> planning to use koss plugs next time for even better sound quality
Nov 14 20:06:46 <Vajb> how many of j use yappari?
Nov 14 20:07:34 <Vajb> and how many faces the problem that from time to time n900 starts asking if it should connect to somewhere or disconnect?
Nov 14 20:07:41 <Vajb> j=u*
Nov 14 20:08:09 <Vajb> im asking because mine does
Nov 14 20:09:29 <Vajb> im mostly connected but from time to time my phone starts popping up network connection dialog even though network is still connected
Nov 14 20:09:49 <Vajb> it seems to me that it just starts asking for the joy of asking...
Nov 14 20:10:17 <Sicelo> Vajb: i use Yappari daily
Nov 14 20:10:33 <Vajb> im not sure if it's related to yappari, but i didn't got it before yappari so im feeling kinda suspicious
Nov 14 20:11:01 <Vajb> have u faced anything what i just descriped?
Nov 14 20:11:27 <Sicelo> that shouldn't be yappari. it does not ask fo connection. will only connect when there is already an active connection
Nov 14 20:11:31 <Sicelo> it never opens it
Nov 14 20:15:55 <Vajb> hmm
Nov 14 20:16:00 <Vajb> then what it is?
Nov 14 20:16:24 <Vajb> i have yappari facebook chat and irssi which use gprs
Nov 14 20:17:08 <Vajb> and from time to time my phone starts asking whether or not is hould disconnect from here and reconnect there
Nov 14 20:17:48 <Vajb> and that started after i used yappari like few weeks
Nov 14 20:18:36 <Vajb> problem disappears if i just agree to disconnect and reconnect. (to same network or connection type that is)
Nov 14 20:19:02 <sec> ~irssi
Nov 14 20:19:02 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, irssi is a modular IRC client for UNIX. See http://irssi.org/, or the door to the 1337
Nov 14 20:19:10 <Vajb> it's not big of a problem, but strange behaviour
Nov 14 20:19:19 <sec> Anyone have a deb for a recent irssi?
Nov 14 20:19:40 <Vajb> i installed that build from forums
Nov 14 20:19:52 <Vajb> .17 or something
Nov 14 20:20:00 <Humpelstilzchen> the point of irssi is to ssh into an always on server where irssi resides in a screen ;)
Nov 14 20:20:04 <Vajb> supports perl scripts
Nov 14 20:20:26 <sec> Erm, Humpelstilzchen, my N900 is a portable always on server
Nov 14 20:20:58 <Humpelstilzchen> how do you mange that?
Nov 14 20:21:06 <sec> Temporarily atleast
Nov 14 20:21:06 <Vajb> Humpelstilzchen: my n900 is always on gprs so im on irc always without any special gadgets ;)
Nov 14 20:21:16 <sec> ^
Nov 14 20:21:24 <Sicelo> possibly facebook Vajb? it is the one thing i don't have in your list
Nov 14 20:21:28 <sec> I have free data, might as well use it
Nov 14 20:21:35 <Humpelstilzchen> Vajb: and it doesn't change its IP adress when you move?
Nov 14 20:22:05 <Humpelstilzchen> tunnel free country?
Nov 14 20:22:44 <Sicelo> sec: recent irssi -- http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1443068#post1443068
Nov 14 20:23:16 <Vajb> Humpelstilzchen: well no to know exactly what u mean i try to be funny and say "well i live in finland, not much tunnels in my area" eh?
Nov 14 20:23:25 <sec> Thanks Sicelo!
Nov 14 20:23:40 <sec> I checked that out a while back, but the link wasn't working then
Nov 14 20:23:54 <Humpelstilzchen> Vajb: probably one of the few countrys with nearly 100% coverage..
Nov 14 20:24:08 <Vajb> Sicelo: hmm maybe, but mostly it starts askig for connection when something happens in yappari
Nov 14 20:24:31 <Sicelo> sec: hmm, really? probably your side. that's my dropbox account btw, and i haven't moved the file at all
Nov 14 20:24:50 <sec> Cheers, thanks
Nov 14 20:25:17 <Sicelo> strange then Vajb. you might want to check /home/user/.config/scorpius/yappari.log to see if you find anything
Nov 14 20:25:21 <Vajb> Humpelstilzchen: agreed. Pretty good coverage alround where i move
Nov 14 20:25:43 <sec> Erm I have pretty much 100% coverage too
Nov 14 20:25:50 <Sicelo> you can even past that log on the Yappari thread. Scorpius is still active in fixing bugs
Nov 14 20:27:05 <Sicelo> *post
Nov 14 20:27:38 <Humpelstilzchen> Vajb: but won't a always on irssi dry up the battery very fast?
Nov 14 20:27:39 <Vajb> Sicelo: pff log longer than my life so far. Will take some time to crawl it through
Nov 14 20:28:39 <Vajb> Humpelstilzchen: as a matter of fact it does, but as i live in finland we have sockets laying all over the place ;)
Nov 14 20:28:46 <Humpelstilzchen> wtf
Nov 14 20:29:04 <Humpelstilzchen> where can I sign in
Nov 14 20:29:25 <Vajb> dunno
Nov 14 20:29:33 <Vajb> at finnish embassy?
Nov 14 20:29:55 <Sicelo> delete the log :)
Nov 14 20:30:09 <Sicelo> a new one will be opened
Nov 14 20:30:29 <Vajb> can u give me an example of what to look?
Nov 14 20:30:46 <Vajb> i could use leafpad search...
Nov 14 20:32:49 <Vajb> ok i feel like i've had it with this log. Can i just delete it from hamsterfiler?
Nov 14 20:32:57 <Sicelo> yes
Nov 14 20:33:19 <Sicelo> delete exististng log. next time you get unexpected connection dialog, just go into the log to see .. 
Nov 14 20:33:51 <Vajb> ok
Nov 14 20:35:09 <sec> Thanks Sicelo :)
Nov 14 20:35:23 <Sicelo> but Scorpius will help better, but of course, log becomes necessary
Nov 14 20:36:08 <Vajb> i guess :)
Nov 14 20:39:07 <sec> What's the package for the CA Certs?
Nov 14 20:40:29 <sec> I have maemosec-certman-common-ca installed, but no certificates in /etc/ssl/certs
Nov 14 20:41:01 <sec> Oh nvm, they're lying around in /etc/certs
Nov 14 21:01:58 <HtheB> guys, is there any way we can get .pnd files to run for the N900?
Nov 14 21:02:06 <HtheB> (open pandora files)
Nov 14 21:02:24 <HtheB> since it uses similair hardware and debian based os.
Nov 14 21:20:31 <anYc> does anyone know why the emmc image "central europe" is >200mb larger than the vanilla emmc image?
Nov 14 21:20:39 <anYc> http://galif.eu/nokia/N900/
Nov 14 21:21:27 <anYc> I'm unsure which I should choose as I live in central europe :)
Nov 14 21:22:54 <anYc> oh, it's >400mb larger
Nov 14 21:23:13 <Vajb> yep so it seems
Nov 14 21:23:34 <Vajb> maybe u have 400mb worth of special characters lol
Nov 14 21:26:22 <anYc> maybe all the surveillance tools are preinstalled so our governments don't have to hack the devices
Nov 14 21:26:47 <anYc> well, I guess I try vanilla first
Nov 14 21:26:47 <Vajb> yes
Nov 14 21:27:00 <Vajb> "nsa inside"
Nov 14 21:50:14 <kerio> anYc: emmc image is useless anyway
Nov 14 22:07:51 <Vajb> kerio: how come?
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