**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 22 03:00:00 2014
Nov 22 07:31:26 <sec> So, bencoh, I broke something :(
Nov 22 12:25:18 <Oksana> Thank you! I have Ctrl+C'ed that fsck -af on n900, then mounted the MyDocs, and it worked fine, and I am now one happy Navit tinkerer (when I have time for it). The GTK GUI is not hildonised, right? Too small-ish menus. For some reason, the icons in the toolbar are without images, and the status bar shows zeroes everywhere.
Nov 22 12:29:49 <Sicelo> is there a way to update the navit maps?
Nov 22 12:32:39 <Oksana> Besides downloading them anew? Not sure.
Nov 22 12:32:49 <Oksana> I am a newbie here.
Nov 22 12:33:41 <Oksana> Was downloading first *_area.bin when the filesystem turned read-only for MyDocs.
Nov 22 12:34:35 <Oksana> Used to use Modrana and OSM2Go, before installing Navit.
Nov 22 12:38:58 <sec> No cron on maemo
Nov 22 12:38:59 <sec> :<
Nov 22 12:52:38 <Sicelo> sec: alarmed 
Nov 22 12:55:25 <sec> oo thanks
Nov 22 18:49:27 <freemangordon> Pali: btw did you try any upstream kernal soon?
Nov 22 18:49:33 <freemangordon> kernel even
Nov 22 18:49:57 <Pali> probably yes
Nov 22 18:50:05 <Pali> I fixed 0xFFFF
Nov 22 18:50:09 <freemangordon> what version?
Nov 22 18:50:22 <freemangordon> and do we have it on gitorious?
Nov 22 18:50:32 <Pali> 0xFFFF now should work for flashing full combined image
Nov 22 18:50:55 <Pali> 0xFFFF sources are on gitorious
Nov 22 18:51:04 <freemangordon> that's great, but my question was - what was the latest upstream you've tried on n900?
Nov 22 18:51:05 <Pali> and I will release new version
Nov 22 18:51:12 <freemangordon> upstream kernel
Nov 22 18:51:27 <Pali> last version which I tried... do not remember, but sources should be on gitorious
Nov 22 18:51:49 <Pali> last version in git is tagged as v3.16-rc1-n900
Nov 22 18:52:13 <Pali> and git told me that local branch is same as remote branch on gitorious
Nov 22 18:52:26 <Pali> last change  2014-08-06 16:15:20
Nov 22 18:52:31 <freemangordon> ok
Nov 22 18:52:42 <freemangordon> why the day is so short :(
Nov 22 18:57:20 <sec> o/ Pali freemangordon 
Nov 22 18:59:54 <bencoh> \o
Nov 22 19:00:00 <bencoh> sec: what did you break ?
Nov 22 19:00:03 <sec> o/ bencoh 
Nov 22 19:00:09 <sec> Everything, refused to boot
Nov 22 19:00:16 <sec> Had to flash in the end
Nov 22 19:00:17 <sec> :(
Nov 22 19:00:21 <bencoh> was that the sdk-ified phone ?
Nov 22 19:09:41 <sec> < bencoh> was that the sdk-ified phone ?
Nov 22 19:09:44 <sec> Yes, that one
Nov 22 19:10:02 <sec> And sorry, CSSU just decided to finish installing and reboot
Nov 22 19:16:37 <vakkov> hey there! http://pastebin.com/RcwQQ0kA  <--- this is a log from harmattan's nfs shift on the cssu
Nov 22 19:16:58 <bencoh> sec: not a surprise then :)
Nov 22 19:17:35 <vakkov> i contacted marmistrz (the developer of meecolay).. says it's a bug in qt 
Nov 22 19:18:21 <vakkov> the question - is the cssu using a different version of qt (i mean thumb) than the stock maemo
Nov 22 19:18:44 <vakkov> and where is the source code
Nov 22 19:19:08 <sec> Um, ok, quick question now. I was using CSSU Testing, which had an updated ca-certificates package. Does CSSU Stable not?
Nov 22 19:19:46 <vakkov> is the one from gitorious/qt used
Nov 22 19:19:54 <bencoh> vakkov: apt-get source libqt4 in sdk
Nov 22 19:20:07 <vakkov> okay, thanks
Nov 22 19:20:19 <vakkov> that's 4.7.4, right
Nov 22 19:20:38 <bencoh> unless they patched it for thumb but I highly doubt that
Nov 22 19:21:41 <bencoh> ii  libmaemosec-certman0                                0.2.3                                      Maemo certificate manager shared library
Nov 22 19:21:45 <bencoh> ii  maemosec-certman-common-ca                          0.2.3                                      Common CA certificates
Nov 22 19:21:48 <bencoh> ii  maemosec-certman-tools                              0.2.3                                      Maemo certificate manager runtime tools
Nov 22 19:21:51 <bencoh> sec: ^
Nov 22 19:22:04 <sec> Ah, thanks!
Nov 22 19:23:54 <bencoh> we had a certman update in latest stable release (september)
Nov 22 19:44:16 <sec> Should the maemosec-certman-common-ca package add a symlink for /etc/certs/common-ca/ to /etc/ssl/certs/ for the sake of compatibility with debian?
Nov 22 19:45:19 <bencoh> looks like /etc/ssl/certs/ is empty on maemo
Nov 22 19:45:25 <bencoh> so ... I'd say no
Nov 22 19:46:04 <sec> Yes, but that's where certs usually are no?
Nov 22 19:46:15 <bencoh> where ?
Nov 22 19:46:26 <sec> in /etc/ssl/certs
Nov 22 19:46:29 <bencoh> /etc/ssl/certs ? to be honest I've never understood this part of openssl
Nov 22 19:47:08 <bencoh> openssl s_client doesnt check it if you dont specify it on debian for instance 
Nov 22 19:47:16 <sec> Yes, but the maemo package adds them to /etc/certs/ .. and some applications default to searching for them in /etc/ssl/certs/
Nov 22 19:48:11 <bencoh> n900:~$ ls -lh /etc/ssl/certs/
Nov 22 19:48:11 <bencoh> n900:~$ 
Nov 22 19:48:15 <bencoh> empty I told you :)
Nov 22 19:48:32 <bencoh> I guess it doesnt look there
Nov 22 19:48:41 <sec> I know :/ I am saying it should be symlinked so that it's not empty :/
Nov 22 19:48:59 <sec> maemo doesn't, but some debian apps do
Nov 22 19:49:14 <bencoh> hmm maybe, I dunno
Nov 22 19:49:42 <bencoh> it might be an openssl configure option (I have no idea)
Nov 22 19:50:23 <sec> Probably
Nov 22 20:34:15 <vakkov> is libqtm broken?
Nov 22 20:34:27 <vakkov> libqtm-12
Nov 22 21:06:22 <sec> Broken how vakkov 
Nov 22 21:07:07 <vakkov> sec: libqtm-12-systeminfo: Depends: libqtm-12 but it is not going to be installed
Nov 22 21:07:07 <vakkov> E: Broken packages
Nov 22 21:07:25 <vakkov> read in an old log that some repos need to be disable.. there is a probable confilict
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