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Dec 07 03:42:29 <jonwil> frails: ping
Dec 07 03:46:55 <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!
Dec 07 04:28:09 <jonwil> frals: ping
Dec 07 07:53:18 * Maxdamantus wonders if anyone's successfully done some sort of range-extending GSM antenna modification.
Dec 07 07:55:02 <Maxdamantus> also, how does network detection actually work? is it completely passive, so cells are continually broadcasting the network(s) they support, then phones just see if their network is in one of those messages?
Dec 07 07:55:21 <Maxdamantus> (so the phone doesn't actually need to send anything to the cell)
Dec 07 07:55:47 <frals> jonwil: sup?
Dec 07 08:03:44 <Maxdamantus> actually, maybe only UMTS works that way.
Dec 07 08:19:24 <Sicelo> Maxdamantus: i think gsm doesn't have the phone send anything. however the phone is always receiving from the towers, comparing the quality of the signal, and 'associating' with the tower with best quality signal
Dec 07 08:21:15 <Maxdamantus> I noticed in an area with bad coverage it could show 3G with all bars (whatever that means) after walking around a bit, but it never showed any 2G signal.
Dec 07 08:21:39 <Maxdamantus> and even with that apparent full 3G signal, it wasn't able to send an SMS.
Dec 07 08:21:41 <jonwil> frals: Do you know anything about the N900 cellular modem?
Dec 07 08:22:06 <frals> jonwil: not really, no, sorry
Dec 07 08:22:36 <Maxdamantus> not right away, that is.
Dec 07 08:23:09 <Maxdamantus> A couple of times I tried requesting something through SMS that has an automatic response 
Dec 07 08:23:28 <Maxdamantus> and it would just work randomly while in my pocket.
Dec 07 08:25:59 <jonwil> I know there were documents for the ISI stuff on www.wirelessmodemapi.com but that site is gone :(
Dec 07 08:30:45 <Maxdamantus> Ah, interesting. I think I've found out where the cell is now.
Dec 07 08:31:42 <Maxdamantus> but won't be there for a few more weeks .. easy to walk towards though.
Dec 07 08:39:06 <jonwil> I tend to keep my phone on 2G most of the time because its meant to be better for the battery life
Dec 07 08:39:32 <jonwil> I only switch to 3G if I need to get more signal or if I am using mobile data and need more speed than 2G can provide
Dec 07 08:40:48 <Maxdamantus> Oh wait, it's not where I thought it was.
Dec 07 08:42:51 <Maxdamantus> The closest cell is apparently about 10 km away.
Dec 07 08:47:47 <bencoh> same here (2G/3G)
Dec 07 08:47:56 <Maxdamantus> and here
Dec 07 08:55:46 <Vajb> im using only 3G
Dec 07 08:59:09 <Vajb> and starting to miss mugen battery
Dec 07 11:45:34 <BonoNL_> totalizator: look into TOHKBD the combined price with a Jolla will make it interesting for u.
Dec 07 11:45:55 <BonoNL_> a great keyboard phone again.
Dec 07 11:53:12 <kerio> >implying
Dec 07 11:53:31 <kerio> hahaha that keyboard layout looks horrendous
Dec 07 12:18:43 <BonoNL_> better then no keyboard ;)
Dec 07 22:37:55 <sixwheeledbeast> totalizator: your device maybe getting slower from installing extras-devel apps and widgetz
Dec 07 22:39:22 <sixwheeledbeast> adblock, recaller and many other seemingly working apps can make the device slow to a crawl.
Dec 07 22:44:30 <totalizator> my only widget in use is a calendar and I have uninstalled adblock long time ago, I thinks that my N900 is slow because of where I live
Dec 07 22:45:36 <totalizator> the 21st century
Dec 07 22:45:41 <totalizator> think*
Dec 07 23:20:20 <chem|st> totalizator: the python desktop (widgets) stuff is eating your device even without the widget active, if it is installed it is started
Dec 08 01:08:06 <sledges> is n900's PMIC TWL4030/TPS65950 ? and has it been successfully using the mainstream drivers/power/twl4030_charger.c ?
Dec 08 01:08:22 <sledges> asking as I heard OpenPandora folk having some weird quirks with charging batteries there
Dec 08 01:08:47 <sledges> so trying to watch out for any good Nokia patches out there
Dec 08 01:23:07 <jonwil> Nokia N900 uses lots of charging stuff in closed-source BME blob
Dec 08 01:46:47 <wicket64> N900 charging works fine without the closed BME blob when running Debian with recent kernels
Dec 08 02:27:53 <totalizator> chem|st: rly? u mean ram usage?
Dec 08 02:30:21 <totalizator> I should be fine http://lpaste.net/4640198807361945600
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