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Dec 26 03:44:01 <Oksana> Okay, question about mce: is it possible to back-port open-sourced Fremantle MCE to Diablo?
Dec 26 03:57:26 <robbiethe1st> Isn't it possible to port anything to anything, provided the platforms are open enough... and, more importantly, given enough time and will
Dec 26 04:04:40 <Oksana> That's the question. I might find time, but who is going to be beta-tester of the new mce on Diablo device? I know nothing about differences between Diablo and Fremantle. Somebody with Diablo device, or at least understanding of differences between Diablo and Fremantle, is needed.
Dec 26 04:07:21 <robbiethe1st> I honestly don't know
Dec 26 04:08:54 <robbiethe1st> Also, is it really worth your time? As a hobby, sure, but other than that...
Dec 26 04:09:14 <robbiethe1st> I mean, even the N900 is getting old, let alone the pre-n900 tablets
Dec 26 04:09:38 <Oksana> Ok, will wait till somebody notices my post on TMO about that. Somehow, the new-open-source Fremantle MCE was imported into repository, so Maintainer should be contactable.
Dec 26 04:10:48 <Oksana> N900 is getting old, I know. But it's more likely that I will hunt down a Nokia N8x0 than that I will watch Diablo lagging behind, with binary blobs staying closed.
Dec 26 04:12:31 <Oksana> After all, since FPTF is getting Fremantle more open-source, to prepare it for Neo900... Fremantle may see a rebound. Diablo benefiting from it would be interesting.
Dec 26 05:26:21 <ShadowJK> 43-7 is indeed latest for diablo, iirc
Dec 26 05:28:02 <ShadowJK> It's getting hard to find good batteries for N8x0 though
Dec 26 09:20:26 <sixwheeledbeast> Anyone having issues with stock RSS app not updating feeds?
Dec 26 10:21:08 <Horcrux> hey guys, is the source for QtMobileHotspot available anywhere?
Dec 26 10:50:56 <sixwheeledbeast> ~pkg
Dec 26 10:50:56 <infobot> pkg is probably http://maemo.org/packages/
Dec 26 17:23:07 <erlehmann> anyone here at 31c3?
Dec 26 17:34:58 <lexik> erlehmann: i was about to go, but my plans changed suddenly, you going?
Dec 26 17:35:33 <erlehmann> lexik indeed i am
Dec 26 17:36:07 <lexik> erlehmann: well, than enjoy! :)
Dec 26 17:38:29 <lexik> actually, I think it's not a bad idea to organize an assembly or something like that about maemo/n/eo900 on CCCongress or summer Camp
Dec 26 17:39:24 <erlehmann> too late
Dec 26 17:40:00 <lexik> for this year, yes
Dec 26 17:40:29 <lexik> (for the summer camp probably too)
Dec 26 17:40:37 <erlehmann> i think not
Dec 26 17:40:52 <erlehmann> at this congress i think the radio guys from radio freies aldebaran have something going on
Dec 26 17:41:07 <erlehmann> they are part of the institut für skalarwellenforschung assembly
Dec 26 17:41:17 <erlehmann> i know two of them have n900
Dec 26 17:45:30 <lexik> in CTJB/brmlab assembly, there are some n900 users too :) maemo is quite popular in the hackers community
Dec 26 17:45:55 <lexik> (2014, still - which is nice)
Dec 26 17:46:21 <erlehmann> well, my GF got a n900 just this year.
Dec 26 18:53:00 <merlin1991> erlehmann: on the cssu train aswell?
Dec 26 18:53:41 <erlehmann> merlin1991 oh noes, we both did not upgrade yetttttt
Dec 26 18:53:43 <erlehmann> inertia!
Dec 26 18:56:05 <Sicelo> merlin1991: isn't there a need to update thumb as well? 
Dec 26 18:57:03 <Sicelo> e.g. camera-ui in CSSU-T is now one minor version higher than thumb .. so during upgrade that gets 'de-thumbified' (if we can coin such a word ;) )
Dec 26 19:20:45 <Pali> what about moving thumb to next cssu-T?
Dec 26 19:21:05 <Pali> I can prepare cssu kernel from kp53
Dec 26 19:21:14 <Pali> it is semi-finished (based on kp52)
Dec 26 19:21:35 <sixwheeledbeast> SIcelo: yes but fmg normally waits a a few days
Dec 26 19:22:56 <sixwheeledbeast> any package that has higher version will be "de-thumbified" yes. This wouldn't mean everything is.
Dec 26 19:24:14 <kerio> hah, not for me :3
Dec 26 19:24:27 * kerio knows how to /etc/apt/preferences
Dec 26 19:36:20 <enyc> random question but wheres the changelog for the kernel power 53 update ?
Dec 26 19:37:42 <sixwheeledbeast> ~kp
Dec 26 19:37:43 <infobot> methinks kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287
Dec 26 19:37:51 <Pali> in debian/changelog
Dec 26 19:37:55 <Pali> in git
Dec 26 19:38:01 <Pali> and also in TMO thread :D
Dec 26 19:39:25 <enyc> ??HMO?
Dec 26 19:39:33 <enyc> err whats TMO i mean =)
Dec 26 19:44:45 <merlin1991> Sicelo: that's up to freemangordon :D
Dec 26 19:45:10 <merlin1991> but yes when the minor version in cssu is higher than the one in thumb you loose your fun stuff
Dec 26 19:45:40 <merlin1991> ~tmo
Dec 26 19:45:40 <infobot> i heard tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen.
Dec 26 19:45:58 <merlin1991> enyc: #2 is the one you're looking for
Dec 27 00:22:09 <hyppocrate> hello and merry year's end !
Dec 27 00:22:36 <hyppocrate> somebody can talk me about fiasco
Dec 27 00:22:49 <hyppocrate> when i want use flasher on linux for my n900
Dec 27 00:22:55 <hyppocrate> it doesn't want 
Dec 27 00:25:49 <ShadowJK> what version flasher
Dec 27 00:26:15 <ShadowJK> And how did you do
Dec 27 00:38:18 <sixwheeledbeast> dafaq? tor is being "hacked"!
Dec 27 00:42:18 <ShadowJK> sixwheeledbeast, old news?
Dec 27 00:42:48 <sixwheeledbeast> ShadowJK: todays news, apparently
Dec 27 00:44:18 <ShadowJK> oh?
Dec 27 00:45:10 <sixwheeledbeast> Some collective hackers have control of a third of the nodes, apparently.
Dec 27 00:55:06 <sixwheeledbeast> http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sjg365
Dec 27 01:04:52 <hurrian> it's a known vuln in Tor, anyone can spin up a few thousand VPS instances
Dec 27 01:05:19 <hurrian> plus with Vagrant you could probably do it in two commands
Dec 27 01:55:59 <salyavin> What tor is trying to do is not an easy problem to solve I guess.
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