**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 26 02:59:59 2015
Jan 26 05:00:52 <Maxdaman1us> Hm. I think I figured out the camera thing from yesterday, where taking pictures with the screen locked would freeze/lag.
Jan 26 05:01:00 <Maxdaman1us> Seems to work after writing 0 back to /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/cam_launch/disable
Jan 26 06:06:19 <Maxdamantus> Maybe not.
Jan 26 06:06:52 <Maxdamantus> Meh, just telling it to keep unlocking the screen then setting backlight brightness to 0.
Jan 26 06:08:11 * Maxdamantus wonders if it'll manage to run until after the sun sets (1h50m)
Jan 26 07:50:13 <Maxdamantus> 35 GiB captured so far.
Jan 26 07:51:26 <Maxdamantus> er, 33 GiB*
Jan 26 07:52:29 <Maxdamantus> 767 mAh used.
Jan 26 08:05:33 <Maxdamantus> Dead.
Jan 26 08:11:34 <Sicelo> what are we capturing?
Jan 26 08:11:35 <Maxdamantus> the bq chip now has a more reasonable charge_full value: 1300551, but that still seems suspicious.
Jan 26 08:11:57 <Maxdamantus> it had 1486xxx before, which is clearly wrong (since it's the standard 1380 battery)
Jan 26 08:12:02 <Maxdamantus> er, 1320?
Jan 26 08:12:35 <Maxdamantus> Sicelo: the same thing as yesterday, but with stability, and over two hours at ½ fps.
Jan 26 08:13:11 <Maxdamantus> finding the last frame will be fun.
Jan 26 08:13:28 * Maxdamantus wrote the raw UYVY stream to a partition on the SD card.
Jan 26 08:16:43 <Maxdamantus> the last frames appear to be black anyway.
Jan 26 08:17:00 * Maxdamantus needs to try increasing the exposure over time.
Jan 26 08:25:23 * Maxdamantus thought he remembered his USB SD reader working at faster than 4.4 MiB/s
Jan 26 08:25:33 * Sicelo wishes there was a way to viewn N900 screen without backlight
Jan 26 08:25:47 <Maxdamantus> You can turn the backlight off.
Jan 26 08:26:08 <Maxdamantus> but if you're running mce it'll turn it back on when the light changes.
Jan 26 08:26:21 <Maxdamantus> echo 0 >/sys/class/backlight/*/brightness
Jan 26 08:28:29 <Sicelo> hmm, that worked :)
Jan 26 08:28:30 <Sicelo> thx
Jan 26 08:29:28 <Maxdamantus> Fun to verify that the screen is actually perfectly usable without it.
Jan 26 08:29:59 <Maxdamantus> (it probably makes no difference in direct sunlight)
Jan 26 08:32:00 <Sicelo> it's not bad where i am. i'm inside a room with low light, but directly under those lights
Jan 26 08:32:40 <Maxdamantus> my backlight doesn't seem to turn on when it boots in response to being plugged into USB.
Jan 26 08:32:59 <Maxdamantus> which is annoying for testing things involving boot and USB.
Jan 26 08:33:05 <Maxdamantus> dunno if other people get it.
Jan 26 08:33:37 <Sicelo> my usb been wonky since april.. can't confirm :)
Jan 26 08:35:48 * Maxdamantus is about to transfer the video to a USB HDD from his laptop, which has wonky USB.
Jan 26 08:35:56 <Maxdamantus> have to leave it still on the floor.
Jan 26 08:42:06 <Maxdamantus> so what would cause the bq27200 to overestimate battery capacity?
Jan 26 08:42:52 <Maxdamantus> it first got 1486 mAh, then 1380 mAh
Jan 26 08:43:06 <Maxdamantus> I have a feeling it's around 1000 mAh.
Jan 26 08:43:40 <kerio> Maxdamantus: it might need multiple calibrations
Jan 26 08:44:06 <kerio> also, make sure to discharge the battery steadily
Jan 26 08:44:11 <kerio> and slowly, if possible
Jan 26 08:44:25 <Maxdamantus> Mm, both times were very quick, actually.
Jan 26 08:44:42 <Maxdamantus> I think Estel's post indicated it would underestimate in that case.
Jan 26 08:45:08 <Maxdamantus> So does the it actually handle multiple calibrations somehow?
Jan 26 08:45:12 <Sicelo> i seem to remember that it starts off at 2056 or some number like that... and of course resets it each time battery is removed
Jan 26 08:45:40 <Maxdamantus> I thought it just replaced the existing data at the end.
Jan 26 08:48:21 <Maxdamantus> https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/d089cf7b7e61563e423a
Jan 26 08:48:52 <Maxdamantus> date, /capacity, /charge_now
Jan 26 08:54:43 <kerio> yes but it won't change too much in a single calibration
Jan 26 09:02:19 <Maxdamantus> Bleh, laptop's USB sucks.
Jan 26 09:02:35 <Maxdamantus> maybe the fastest way would just be over N900's USB.
Jan 26 09:07:05 <bencoh> hmm silly question but ... cant bme handle this ?
Jan 26 09:10:39 <Maxdamantus> handle what?
Jan 26 09:12:10 <Maxdamantus> battery capacity? potentially, if it has something to measure power usage.
Jan 26 09:12:51 <Maxdamantus> I suspect the advantages of doing it in the hardware would be that you can invalidate it in more cases.
Jan 26 09:14:43 <Maxdamantus> 3820*2592*1968*2/(1896001600/294.541)/60 = 100
Jan 26 09:17:37 <ShadowJK> it changes at most 6% each time
Jan 26 09:19:17 <kerio> stop using the nokia bme ._.
Jan 26 09:19:20 <kerio> ~bme-replacement
Jan 26 09:19:20 <infobot> bme-replacement is probably http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement  http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/projects/maemo/bme-replacement.html  See also: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement . Please, use wiki page to report bugs/problems and/or solutions to them!
Jan 26 09:19:57 <Maxdamantus> So it'll take 4 more calibrations?
Jan 26 09:20:12 <kerio> dude, 1000 is veeeeeery little
Jan 26 09:20:24 <Maxdamantus> Isn't that what that gist indicates?
Jan 26 09:20:26 <ShadowJK> Well, it depends.
Jan 26 09:20:33 <kerio> if your battery can actually only hold 1000mAh, the solution is not to calibrate it 4 more times
Jan 26 09:20:38 <kerio> the solution is to buy a new battery
Jan 26 09:23:12 <bencoh> hardest part being finding a *genuine* nokia battery if you want a nokia one
Jan 26 10:31:24 <Vajb> cool yappari seems to be working again
Jan 26 10:52:07 <Sicelo> Vajb: they fixed it within a day .. community effort is amazing
Jan 26 10:54:29 <bencoh> yeah <3
Jan 26 10:55:21 <bencoh> even if I dont use it (or any other fb service) I still think it's awesome to see them keeping it alive :)
Jan 26 10:59:48 <Vajb> yeah i know, but was waiting for ham to catch it up :)
Jan 26 11:01:04 <Vajb> but after all it was just weekened without it which is amazing coz i thought that's the end of that program for maemo
Jan 26 11:01:31 * Vajb shall never doubt community again
Jan 26 12:26:54 <mirda> hello
Jan 26 12:27:08 <mirda> so you recommend to switch to bme-replacement?
Jan 26 12:34:35 <kerio> mirda: sure, why not
Jan 26 12:45:54 <Maxdamantus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaM91I0J-64
Jan 26 13:49:48 <ceene> Maxdamantus: that's beautiful!
Jan 26 13:50:22 <Maxdamantus> Thanks.
Jan 26 13:50:46 * Maxdamantus is trying to figure out whether to upload a 1440p version or a 1458p version.
Jan 26 13:52:06 <ceene> is there much difference?
Jan 26 13:52:29 <Maxdamantus> Maybe, depending on how Youtube handles them.
Jan 26 13:52:37 <kerio> 18p
Jan 26 13:52:38 <Maxdamantus> eg, what scaling algorithm it uses.
Jan 26 13:52:41 <kerio> :>
Jan 26 13:53:13 <Maxdamantus> 32*18, can do.
Jan 26 13:55:07 <bencoh> really nice indeed :)
Jan 26 13:55:19 <bencoh> Maxdamantus: so ... fcam didnt leak ?
Jan 26 13:56:27 <Maxdamantus> leak?
Jan 26 13:56:38 <Maxdamantus> memory leak?
Jan 26 13:56:47 <bencoh> yeah
Jan 26 13:56:55 <Maxdamantus> Don't think so.
Jan 26 13:57:09 <Maxdamantus> I think it was constantly at around 25%.
Jan 26 13:57:24 <bencoh> which means fcamera's leak is probably in fcamera, not in fcam
Jan 26 13:57:31 <Maxdamantus> Probably.
Jan 26 13:58:02 <Maxdamantus> I just used a single FCam::Frame, writing the contents to stdout after each capture.
Jan 26 13:58:57 <bencoh> how did you work around your "powersaving" issue ?
Jan 26 13:59:22 <Sicelo> (so i've now paid my usb-less N900. 15.50 euro. all works besides the usb)
Jan 26 14:01:18 <Vajb> Sicelo: good deal i think
Jan 26 14:01:20 <Maxdamantus> I used a DBus command every minute to make sure the screen was unlocked, and set the backlight brightness to 0 every 5 seconds.
Jan 26 14:01:43 <Maxdamantus> So the display was still on, just not the backlight.
Jan 26 14:02:09 <bencoh> hm, okay
Jan 26 14:09:15 <Maxdamantus> There should be a 1440p version at http://youtu.be/ALPUos8cZsk probably in about two hours anyway (given to Youtube as 1458p)
Jan 26 14:17:43 <Maxdamantus> or three.
Jan 26 20:22:33 <vakkov> is there a mirror for tablets-dev somewhere?
Jan 26 20:41:42 <bencoh> we used to have skeiron but not anymore
Jan 26 20:42:20 <bencoh> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92586
Jan 26 20:42:49 <bencoh> what do you need tablets-dev for ?
Jan 26 20:43:44 <bencoh> vakkov: https://web.archive.org/web/20131117073524/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/
Jan 27 01:54:12 <Maxdamantus> Hm. Regarding the dead pixels thing on the CCD, is information about them available or something?
Jan 27 01:54:23 <Maxdamantus> fcamera's previewer seems really good at filtering them out.
Jan 27 02:05:29 <robbiethe1st> I'm guessing it sees something that doesn't change, and therefor becomes noise?
Jan 27 02:08:16 <Maxdamantus> in which case that would be stored somewhere.
Jan 27 02:08:29 <robbiethe1st> Maby, unless it's done on the fly
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