**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 29 03:00:00 2015
Jan 29 07:40:12 <sixwheeledbeast> Did I miss something are the Nokia repos dead now?
Jan 29 09:38:30 <bencoh> sixwheeledbeast: seems to be up (apt-get update works here)
Jan 29 09:39:35 <Maxdamantus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqTzjNyQGak
Jan 29 15:17:56 <stryngs> freemangordon: Yesterday you spoke of glibc already being patched??
Jan 29 15:30:41 <Sicelo> i think he said it's patchable, and other (previous) patches have been applied .. but accessible to CSSU users. by extension, he would also have meant a patch for this ghost is likely to come in the near future (if it will build)
Jan 29 17:07:23 <sixwheeledbeast> bencoh: not working for me here. Both Nokia Applications and SSU not updating.
Jan 29 17:08:33 * stryngs debates doing LFS on the n900
Jan 29 17:08:35 <bencoh> with apt-get ?
Jan 29 17:08:53 * stryngs thinks "After all, how hard could it be....."
Jan 29 17:15:01 <freemangordon> Sicelo: yep, something like that
Jan 29 17:17:04 <sixwheeledbeast> bencoh: both HAM and apt-get
Jan 29 17:25:44 <kerio> ~phone-control
Jan 29 17:27:49 <bencoh> sixwheeledbeast: what does apt-get say ?
Jan 29 17:31:52 <kerio> dammit infobot
Jan 29 17:42:30 <stryngs> Question for you folks.  cssu, aside from .deb packages, what else does it entail?
Jan 29 17:42:50 <stryngs> If'd I'd like to manually pursue it, to integrate it's changes into my version of how i do stuff; any ideas on where to start?
Jan 29 17:44:08 <merlin1991> with a more precise description of "manually" pursuing
Jan 29 17:44:45 <stryngs> Well merlin1991 For starters:
Jan 29 17:45:47 <stryngs> http://termbin.com/uqbo
Jan 29 17:46:34 <stryngs> http://termbin.com/azys
Jan 29 17:46:40 <stryngs> That's the difference in the way i do things
Jan 29 17:46:44 <stryngs> I don't optify anything
Jan 29 17:46:55 <stryngs> I do a bunch of chroot binds at boot
Jan 29 17:47:06 <stryngs> I build natively, etc..
Jan 29 17:47:25 <stryngs> So, integrating stuff has to be done painstakingly carefully
Jan 29 17:47:32 <stryngs> BUT... my n900?  It kicks butt =)
Jan 29 17:47:51 <stryngs> And i'd like to use some of the stuff the community uses
Jan 29 17:49:11 <stryngs> and re-contribute in turn
Jan 29 17:49:17 <stryngs> the stuff that can be anyways...
Jan 29 17:49:25 <stryngs> non non-opt'd stuff. etc..
Jan 29 17:49:33 <stryngs> i.e... glibc patch
Jan 29 17:49:36 <stryngs> bash4.3.33
Jan 29 17:49:39 <stryngs> ngrep
Jan 29 18:53:00 <warfare> I'll start upgrading and randomly booting maemo.org servers in about ten minutes. 
Jan 29 20:40:16 <stryngs> Hey... i can't apt-get source libc6
Jan 29 20:40:27 <stryngs> anyone have the source deb stuff?
Jan 29 20:40:29 <stryngs> i want to patch it
Jan 29 20:40:30 <stryngs> ..
Jan 29 20:40:31 <stryngs> =)
Jan 29 20:42:39 <warfare> stryngs: I'm just patching the repo server, so bear with me a few minutes. 
Jan 29 20:42:48 <kerio> *roar*
Jan 29 20:43:22 <stryngs> Oh
Jan 29 20:43:45 <stryngs> warfare: So the source will be available for libc6 or you're going to upload the libc6 patch? =)
Jan 29 20:46:06 <warfare> stryngs: I'll have a look if the source is on repository.maemo.org 
Jan 29 20:46:14 <stryngs> couldnt find it
Jan 29 20:46:19 <stryngs> only the deb file
Jan 29 20:46:25 <warfare> kerio: ? 
Jan 29 20:46:31 <kerio> i'm bearing with you
Jan 29 20:46:37 <warfare> Thanks :) 
Jan 29 20:47:16 <warfare> stryngs: only debs, no sources. 
Jan 29 20:47:34 <stryngs> yeah
Jan 29 20:47:42 <stryngs> so how the heck do we approach the ghost fix warfare ?
Jan 29 20:49:15 <warfare> stryngs: probably cssu has sources. Better ask merlin1991 when he is around. 
Jan 29 20:49:30 <stryngs> hmm, k
Jan 29 20:49:39 <stryngs> I was thinking of grabbing http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.5.tar.gz
Jan 29 20:49:44 <stryngs> and going from there, sane choice?
Jan 29 20:49:55 <Humpelst1lzchen> are there any nokia soecific patches in the maemo version?
Jan 29 20:49:59 <stryngs> # dpkg --list | grep libc6
Jan 29 20:50:00 <stryngs> ii  libc6                                               2.5.1-1eglibc27+0m5              GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data
Jan 29 20:50:03 <stryngs> ii  libc6-dev                                           2.5.1-1eglibc27+0m5              GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files
Jan 29 20:50:14 <stryngs> er 2.5.1 rather
Jan 29 20:50:19 <stryngs> disregard orig link
Jan 29 20:50:41 <kerio> it's eglibc
Jan 29 20:50:59 <stryngs> Oh
Jan 29 20:51:04 <merlin1991> have a look at https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibchttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibc/
Jan 29 20:51:10 <stryngs> ok
Jan 29 20:51:16 <Humpelst1lzchen> eglibc was debian default
Jan 29 20:51:28 <merlin1991> the patches on top are https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibc/source/434c104c8a4289f8a160db749aa6306ef508721b:debian/patches
Jan 29 20:51:34 <stryngs> mer 404 Page not found
Jan 29 20:51:53 <stryngs> ah, u squished the urls together
Jan 29 20:52:07 <merlin1991> nah my keyboard double fired when pasting ...
Jan 29 20:52:23 <stryngs> ok merlin1991 I'm fairly saavy at this, but let me take it back a notch
Jan 29 20:52:28 <stryngs> The patch work has already been done, yes?
Jan 29 20:53:04 <merlin1991> https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibc/source/434c104c8a4289f8a160db749aa6306ef508721b:debian/patches/series is the order the patches are applied (automatically by dpkg-buildpackage)
Jan 29 20:54:00 <merlin1991> in cssu we only added a patch for newer gcc, and fixes to kernel min version to enable ppoll/pselect support, and then updated the timezone information 
Jan 29 20:54:01 <freemangordon> stryngs: stock eglibc sources are in the SDK repo
Jan 29 20:54:14 <stryngs> hmm
Jan 29 20:54:50 <stryngs> Ok, so for an n900 user who has not done cssu stuff.  Which direction should i point?  SDK repo?
Jan 29 20:55:04 <merlin1991> and then there's this bit of black magic to make the ppoll/pselect build work automatically https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibc/commit/5b9f847f25e8c90338c05d7cc36298c617ac0c1c
Jan 29 20:55:26 <freemangordon> stryngs: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/g/glibc/
Jan 29 20:55:35 <merlin1991> yea
Jan 29 20:56:04 <freemangordon> stryngs: if you manage to patch it for the ghost, please share the patch, to not double the work
Jan 29 20:56:10 <stryngs> of course
Jan 29 20:56:12 <stryngs> and i will aptch it
Jan 29 20:56:35 <freemangordon> hmm?
Jan 29 20:56:40 <freemangordon> ~aptch
Jan 29 20:56:53 <freemangordon> ~ping
Jan 29 20:56:54 <infobot> ~pong
Jan 29 20:56:58 <stryngs> ~patch
Jan 29 20:56:59 <infobot> methinks patch is just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1', or `patch -ruN old_dir new_dir > tree.diff`
Jan 29 20:57:01 <stryngs> =)
Jan 29 20:57:09 <freemangordon> oh, ok :)
Jan 29 20:57:16 <stryngs> hehe
Jan 29 20:57:23 <stryngs> I spent the better part of 24 hours working on glibc
Jan 29 20:57:26 <stryngs> just as a heads up
Jan 29 20:57:29 <stryngs> versus eglibc
Jan 29 20:57:30 <stryngs> =/
Jan 29 21:03:37 <freemangordon> stryngs: I guess we need this https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2013-04/msg00309.html backported
Jan 29 21:05:16 <stryngs> nice
Jan 29 21:06:03 <stryngs> Ok, so this is a little bit diff than i have done before
Jan 29 21:06:05 <stryngs> dpkg-source -x glibc_2.5.1-1eglibc27\+0m5.dsc
Jan 29 21:06:25 <stryngs> produced: glibc-2.5.1
Jan 29 21:07:08 <stryngs> Since there was a dsc, this tell me the orig was patched prior to becoming a deb yes?
Jan 29 21:08:13 <stryngs> tbh, i'm now completly lost =(*
Jan 29 21:08:35 <freemangordon> stryngs: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibc/source/434c104c8a4289f8a160db749aa6306ef508721b:
Jan 29 21:08:48 <Sicelo_> my second N900 does not launch the camera application when i open the camera shutter. dmesg shows that the open and close are detected correctly. what is responsible for auto-launching camera application?
Jan 29 21:09:12 <freemangordon> Sicelo_: mce? dbus?
Jan 29 21:09:51 <Sicelo_> also, when i launch camera application with closed shutter, it opens just fine, but of course black
Jan 29 21:10:36 <Sicelo_> freemangordon: i have no idea how i can test.. any suggestions?
Jan 29 21:10:49 <freemangordon> lemme check mce sources
Jan 29 21:12:39 <Maxdamantus> I think it's the camera application itself.
Jan 29 21:13:12 <Sicelo_> let me try reinstalling
Jan 29 21:13:14 <Maxdamantus> camera-ui usually runs in the background. If you're using CSSU you can configure whether it opens the viewer in the settings from the camera.
Jan 29 21:13:26 <Sicelo_> non-cssu
Jan 29 21:13:41 <Sicelo_> and camera-ui shows as running
Jan 29 21:14:11 <warfare> maemo.org domain is in transit to community now, the domain is not longer owned by Nokia. 
Jan 29 21:14:41 <warfare> I don't expect any breakage, but you can never know. 
Jan 29 21:14:59 <freemangordon> great
Jan 29 21:15:47 <freemangordon> Sicelo_: is that device on cssu?
Jan 29 21:15:58 <freemangordon> oh
Jan 29 21:16:07 <freemangordon> already answered
Jan 29 21:16:30 <Sicelo_> yeah, latest stock
Jan 29 21:17:07 <Sicelo_> i will install cssu-t sometime soon
Jan 29 21:18:02 <freemangordon> Sicelo_: at least camera-ui in CSSU uses HAL, see https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/camera-ui/source/4519436ec03a97af5bedf1ee10922c8c3647a156:src/dbus-helper.c#L280
Jan 29 21:24:33 <Maxdamantus> So why can't glibc simply be upgraded to the latest version?
Jan 29 21:24:42 <Maxdamantus> Are there maemo-specific patches?
Jan 29 21:26:37 <freemangordon> Maxdamantus: see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89467
Jan 29 22:35:24 <gregoa> &g 25
Jan 29 22:40:10 <Maxdamantus> So has someone made something like bq27200.sh that uses the kernel module instead of i2c?
Jan 29 22:40:29 * Maxdamantus just did a hack modification to it.
Jan 29 22:40:38 <Maxdamantus> ./i2cget (){ sed '/^'"$4"'/!d; s/^[^=]*=//' </sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/registers; }
Jan 29 22:41:05 <Maxdamantus> though had to lower-case some uses of the command.
Jan 29 22:53:25 <bencoh> bleh, stryngs disconnected
Jan 29 22:54:12 <bencoh> for the record, apt-get source libc6 works in scratchbox (it comes from fremantle/sdk/free)
Jan 29 23:59:57 <Maxdamantus> Yay, won a race in typeracer on my N900.
Jan 30 00:14:49 <Oksana> :-)
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