**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 31 02:59:58 2015
Jan 31 03:04:39 <stryngs> Why is man broke?
Jan 31 03:06:54 <stryngs> p.s.  busybox for the n900 blows =)
Jan 31 03:06:56 <stryngs> Gotta fix
Jan 31 03:07:15 <stryngs> Time till launch of the n900 on-board deb creator nuclear warhead... aprox 1hr
Jan 31 03:07:20 <stryngs> Standby for building madness
Jan 31 03:24:10 * stryngs curses the idiot who invented the idea of placing everything under /opt versus just doing a chroot at the beginning of boot
Jan 31 03:34:16 <stryngs> WOOO WOOO the damn package built natively!
Jan 31 03:34:18 <stryngs> WOOT WOOT
Jan 31 03:34:19 <stryngs> !
Jan 31 13:55:06 <Pali> freemangordon: ping
Jan 31 15:42:32 <kopple> hello, I'm not a programmer and also rather new to unix systems but I was wondering if it is possible/easy to achieve to port a QT application for desktop linux to maemo
Jan 31 15:43:00 <kopple> it's very lightweight on resources so I think it could work indeed on a n900
Jan 31 15:47:51 <freemangordon> Pali: pong
Jan 31 15:48:04 <freemangordon> kopple: yes, you can, just need to tweak the UI
Jan 31 15:48:09 <kerio> maybe
Jan 31 15:48:17 <Pali> freemangordon: see mails, probably there is no way to check for runtime permission of L3 firewall
Jan 31 15:48:30 <kerio> if it runs fine in a 800x400ish window...
Jan 31 15:48:36 * freemangordon is reading the emails
Jan 31 15:48:56 <Pali> those errors caused *also* aes enaled xloader
Jan 31 15:49:02 <kopple> kerio: I think it does, I'm resizing the window right now..
Jan 31 15:49:27 <kopple> and it works, maybe not extremely finger-friendly
Jan 31 15:49:47 <kopple> but certainly suitable for usage with the pen
Jan 31 15:51:49 <kopple> there happen to exist a tutorial for porting apps for me to follow without bothering other users?
Jan 31 15:56:52 <freemangordon> kopple: you just need to change the controls layout
Jan 31 15:57:14 <kopple> if css is involved I can
Jan 31 15:57:24 <freemangordon> kopple: google for "Hildon 2.2 UI style guide"
Jan 31 15:57:29 <freemangordon> kopple: hardly :)
Jan 31 15:57:35 <kopple> thank you
Jan 31 15:58:21 <freemangordon> Pali: so, the only option remaining is to find an SMC call that will either enable or give information on enabled state of the AES module
Jan 31 15:58:56 <freemangordon> or as the guy on the ML says, we can catch the bus error while probing the driver
Jan 31 15:59:15 <Sicelo_> kopple: and what is this application btw
Jan 31 15:59:34 <kopple> it is QViaggiaTreno
Jan 31 16:00:13 <freemangordon> Pali: that error in qemu could be fixed with adding a check if the device is HS
Jan 31 16:00:38 <kopple> it provides live info about trains in Italy, with all their delays, actual tracking of each train and so.. there's a website for this info but it sucks very bad
Jan 31 16:00:48 <Sicelo_> ah :)
Jan 31 16:00:55 <kopple> and as you can imagine it's not easy to browse on mobile browsers
Jan 31 16:01:16 <kopple> so it would be great for tourists
Jan 31 16:01:28 <kopple> and every Italian user of maemo
Jan 31 16:04:08 <kopple> one day I will be able to do this sort of stuff on my own
Jan 31 16:05:09 <Pali> freemangordon: it looks like some GP devices has crypto support too... so we can add only n900 specific check
Jan 31 16:07:58 <kopple> anyway I found this guide in maemo's wiki that will help a lot http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Porting_Software/Redesigning_From_Maemo_4_to_Maemo_5
Jan 31 16:08:58 <freemangordon> Pali: going to ask FatPhil for some help
Jan 31 16:09:04 <Pali> ok
Jan 31 16:23:27 <freemangordon> Pali: done, lets see
Jan 31 16:23:36 <freemangordon> ~seen FatPhil
Jan 31 16:23:36 <infobot> fatphil <~pcarmody@87-119-188-75.tll.elisa.ee> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 66d 1h 3m 5s ago, saying: 'I know I'll get in trouble for asking, but what kernel are you running?'.
Jan 31 16:25:46 <freemangordon> Pali: any idea who is that guy on http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/n900_aes_and_sha1-md5_hw_acceleration_drivers/ ?
Jan 31 16:25:58 <freemangordon> Tobias Karnat
Jan 31 16:27:06 <freemangordon> oh, he is (or was) on LKML too
Jan 31 16:30:55 <kerio> i thought we eventually came to the conclusion that software crypto was faster than hw crypto
Jan 31 16:31:46 <freemangordon> kerio: it is not that simple, it vastly depends on the drivers quality
Jan 31 16:35:54 <freemangordon> Pali: hmm it seems the guy we need is Dmitry Kasatkin
Jan 31 16:36:56 <freemangordon> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/1/15/229
Jan 31 16:37:10 <freemangordon> Pali: could you mail him?
Jan 31 16:52:55 <Pali> freemangordon: I had discussion with Dmitry years ago
Jan 31 16:53:07 <Pali> and also with Tobias
Jan 31 16:53:16 <freemangordon> and?
Jan 31 16:53:32 <Pali> Dmitry does not work for Nokia anymore, so does not have any documentation anymore
Jan 31 16:53:33 <freemangordon> I can bet Dmitry has xloader source code
Jan 31 16:53:45 <Pali> told that not
Jan 31 16:53:52 <freemangordon> hmm :(
Jan 31 17:02:20 <freemangordon> Pali: BTW, did you try to boot maemo with 3.19?
Jan 31 17:45:16 <Pali> maemo not
Jan 31 19:11:44 <freemangordon> xes: any idea why nmap update in extras-devel is so big?
Jan 31 19:36:55 <freemangordon> ~flashing
Jan 31 19:36:56 <infobot> hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir/*, cd into it, do ./flash-it-all.sh
Jan 31 20:59:26 <xes> freemangordon: ~4MB lua scripts ~4MB nse scripts ~4MB OS fingerprints...
Jan 31 22:09:52 <freemangordon> xes: ok, makes sense. is it optified?
Jan 31 22:10:04 <xes> freemangordon: yes
Jan 31 22:10:11 <freemangordon> ok, thanks
Jan 31 22:10:30 <xes> have you any issue with it?
Jan 31 22:12:17 <freemangordon> didn't install it, when I saw that it wants to take 9 MB :)
Jan 31 22:12:24 <xes> :)
Jan 31 22:12:28 <freemangordon> s/install/upgrade/
Jan 31 22:12:28 <infobot> freemangordon meant: didn't upgrade it, when I saw that it wants to take 9 MB :)
Jan 31 22:12:45 <freemangordon> will do it, probably tomorrow
Feb 01 01:44:03 <Maxdamantus> Hm. Now it's back up to 1238 mAh.
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