**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 08 02:59:58 2015
Feb 08 04:52:26 <uhhimhere> hi guys can someone tell me what this file does: drivers/usb/core/hub.c
Feb 08 07:58:48 <uhhimhere> do i need to enable USB_GADGET to get USB_OTG running on my device during compile time?
Feb 08 09:11:38 <Maxdamantus> uhhimhere: doubt it.
Feb 08 09:12:07 <Maxdamantus> uhhimhere: the gadgets are the modules beginning with g_.
Feb 08 09:12:30 <Maxdamantus> g_(file|mass)_storage, g_ether, etc
Feb 08 09:12:57 <Maxdamantus> allowing it act as a particular sort of USB device.
Feb 08 11:17:21 <Sicelo> is it just me, or is fennec unable to use socks proxy? i set it in about:config, but tcpdump shows fennec still sending packets 'directly'
Feb 08 11:24:10 <NIN101_> hmm I know that it was hard to convince the default browser to finally use proxies. 
Feb 08 11:28:17 <Sicelo> ok. it was me. forgot to set network.proxy.type to 1. default is 5
Feb 08 12:15:35 <KotCzarny> hello
Feb 08 12:16:11 <KotCzarny> my n800 just poweroffed because of sshfs transfer
Feb 08 12:16:13 <KotCzarny> o.o
Feb 08 12:17:05 <KotCzarny> in another news, anyone wants console (ncurses) player tht plays almost any audio file?
Feb 08 12:23:17 <KotCzarny> ahm, charger is too weak
Feb 08 18:21:04 <xorly> hello
Feb 08 18:23:47 <xorly> is anybody running last git kernel 3.19.0 rc5 on N900?
Feb 08 18:24:10 <kerio> freemangordon
Feb 08 18:24:21 <kerio> at least, he's running some linux 3
Feb 08 18:24:27 <kerio> in the sense that he booted something
Feb 08 18:26:31 <xorly> thanks, I booted 3.19 and I have problems with BT and camera, I am curious about their status
Feb 08 18:27:16 <xorly> in archlinux, not maemo :)
Feb 08 18:28:38 <kerio> i think nothing works, or something
Feb 08 18:31:31 <xorly> a lof of things works, eg audio with its 229 controls in alsamixer, works well :D
Feb 08 18:34:53 <KotCzarny> so, anyone wants audio player that plays almost any file?
Feb 08 18:38:28 <xorly> probably not, RockoBox already exists...
Feb 08 18:38:35 <KotCzarny> its console one
Feb 08 18:38:47 <KotCzarny> so you can control it via ssh for example
Feb 08 18:39:01 <KotCzarny> and use nit as a remote media player
Feb 08 18:39:18 * KotCzarny is console freak
Feb 08 18:40:19 <KotCzarny> well, rockbox plays a few, my app plays more
Feb 08 18:40:20 <KotCzarny> :)
Feb 08 18:41:09 <KotCzarny> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=510Txegh
Feb 08 18:41:15 <KotCzarny> as a bonus it has almost no deps
Feb 08 18:41:33 <xorly> yeah, why not, but I'd like to use n900 for robot controll, unfortunately idk how to make camera working
Feb 08 18:41:48 <KotCzarny> isnt camera simple bttv device?
Feb 08 18:42:13 <xorly> what's that?
Feb 08 18:42:18 <KotCzarny> i mean, last time i played with it regular v4l2 programs worked with it
Feb 08 18:42:39 <xorly> sweet libxmp support
Feb 08 18:43:34 <xorly> afaik it must be configured with media-ctl, idk how, there is no /dev/video* device
Feb 08 18:43:40 <KotCzarny> hmm
Feb 08 18:44:08 <KotCzarny> i would have to check my old proggies
Feb 08 18:45:20 <KotCzarny> http://natisbad.org/N900/n900-tips-and-tricks.html
Feb 08 18:45:26 <KotCzarny> see the mplayer tricks
Feb 08 18:45:36 <KotCzarny> apparently thre is /dev/video0 and 1
Feb 08 18:45:59 <KotCzarny> and that's what i remember that it was 'just working'
Feb 08 18:47:02 <xorly> yes, I would exppect it on maemo, but my N900 runs archlinux with 3.19 kernel
Feb 08 18:47:11 <KotCzarny> ahm
Feb 08 18:47:19 <xorly> and it's "just not working"
Feb 08 18:48:04 <KotCzarny> cant help then, maybe you can compile some modules 
Feb 08 18:48:23 <xorly> imo Pali could help, he is N900 kernel guru
Feb 08 18:49:02 <Pali> camera is not working
Feb 08 18:49:09 <KotCzarny> do you know any decent file sharing service?
Feb 08 18:49:14 <Pali> and for bluetooth you need to load bt_nokia.ko module
Feb 08 18:49:19 <Pali> and use some fancy bluez5
Feb 08 18:49:28 <Pali> and other tool for setting mac address
Feb 08 18:49:33 <Pali> pavelm should know more
Feb 08 18:49:51 <Pali> (camera is broken since 3.5)
Feb 08 18:50:22 <xorly> Pali: thanks, but I have no such module
Feb 08 18:50:47 <Pali> its not in mainline yet
Feb 08 18:50:54 <Pali> search for lkml.org
Feb 08 18:51:38 <xorly> I thought, that camera is not working, but commit seemd to be meant as fix
Feb 08 18:51:40 <xorly> ok
Feb 08 18:52:06 <Pali> see elinux.org/N900
Feb 08 18:52:10 <Pali> camera is broken
Feb 08 18:52:42 <KotCzarny> xorly: my player, http://www16.zippyshare.com/v/n4cOogFE/file.html
Feb 08 18:52:55 <bencoh> Pali: v4l api change ?
Feb 08 18:53:12 <Pali> v4l2 api is still same
Feb 08 18:53:13 <KotCzarny> for midis you would need freepats or similar gus patches 
Feb 08 18:54:02 <KotCzarny> havent tested it on n900 but afair things from n800 worked there
Feb 08 18:54:24 <KotCzarny> what is default n900 audio subsystem?
Feb 08 18:54:30 <bencoh> alsa
Feb 08 18:54:33 <KotCzarny> hmm
Feb 08 18:54:34 <bencoh> erm, strike that
Feb 08 18:54:36 <KotCzarny> esd ?
Feb 08 18:54:36 <bencoh> pulseaudio
Feb 08 18:54:40 <bencoh> was thinking about something else :)
Feb 08 18:55:12 <freemangordon> xorly: http://elinux.org/N900
Feb 08 18:55:29 <freemangordon> unfortunately cameras and DSP are broken
Feb 08 18:55:40 <KotCzarny> i shall link with libao dynamically
Feb 08 18:56:05 <bencoh> "No (removed in v3.17-rc1 broken since 3.13-rc2)" :/
Feb 08 18:56:12 <bencoh> that's a pity
Feb 08 18:56:45 <freemangordon> xorly: iirc sailus said there are some patches on the multimedia (clone, branch) that make ISP working again, didn't try them
Feb 08 18:57:09 <freemangordon> ISP == camera subsystem
Feb 08 18:57:28 <freemangordon> oh, Pali alreay posted that link
Feb 08 18:57:37 <freemangordon> *already
Feb 08 18:58:20 <KotCzarny> cpuidle not working?
Feb 08 18:58:56 <freemangordon> should be, but some trickery is needed for the UART
Feb 08 18:59:15 <freemangordon> otherwise device never hits low-power states
Feb 08 18:59:21 <KotCzarny> for a mobile device its quite essential?
Feb 08 19:00:00 <freemangordon> :nod:
Feb 08 19:00:41 <xorly> KotCzarny: missing libesd :/
Feb 08 19:01:15 <xorly> freemangordon: so camera driver is broken and ISP too?
Feb 08 19:02:02 <freemangordon> afaik it is the ISP driver that is broken
Feb 08 19:02:13 <xorly> and in 3.19 cpu freq. scaling is not working
Feb 08 19:02:24 <freemangordon> as both cameras behave (or at least used to in 3.15) in the same way
Feb 08 19:02:41 <KotCzarny> xorly, i'm still brushing it up for n800, will probably test/brush on n900 tomorrow
Feb 08 19:02:44 <freemangordon> xorly: hmm, freq scaling should work
Feb 08 19:02:53 <freemangordon> though I didn't check :)
Feb 08 19:03:06 <bencoh> freemangordon: does rotation work ?
Feb 08 19:03:29 <freemangordon> last time I tried it was broken, DSS driver was bailing out
Feb 08 19:03:36 <bencoh> :/
Feb 08 19:03:47 <freemangordon> but that was some time ago
Feb 08 19:03:52 <bencoh> still a long way to go :)
Feb 08 19:03:55 <freemangordon> yeah
Feb 08 19:04:19 <freemangordon> but still, it is way better than it was
Feb 08 19:04:31 <bencoh> :)
Feb 08 19:04:39 <freemangordon> Pali: BTW, did you merge my rx51_defconfig changes?
Feb 08 19:04:50 <freemangordon> like NOEN stuff in the kernel etc.
Feb 08 19:04:53 <Pali> which changes?
Feb 08 19:04:54 <freemangordon> *NEON
Feb 08 19:05:01 <freemangordon> in 3.16 branch
Feb 08 19:05:03 <Pali> do not know
Feb 08 19:06:05 <KotCzarny> xorly: i think libesd is in extras-devel for n900
Feb 08 19:06:11 <KotCzarny> for a quickie
Feb 08 19:06:16 <freemangordon> Pali: https://gitorious.org/linux-n900/freemangordons-linux-n900/commit/f9f8338b618d1081082eaaa234f2515d812dc515
Feb 08 19:06:53 <KotCzarny> as a bonus my player supports zip archives and treats them just like regular dirs
Feb 08 19:07:05 <KotCzarny> do you can have your module collection in one tidy place
Feb 08 19:07:35 <xorly> KotCzarny: I am afraid, that libesd is not last missing lib, let me check it
Feb 08 19:07:36 <KotCzarny> or play your zipped torrents
Feb 08 19:07:47 <Pali> freemangordon: do not know, you need to check it
Feb 08 19:07:56 <KotCzarny> it is, as the rest are just regular system libs
Feb 08 19:08:36 <xorly> yup, looks to be doable
Feb 08 19:09:01 <KotCzarny> that was my idea, lightweight, no deps, fast and handy
Feb 08 19:15:26 <Pali> who the fuck want to zip music collection?
Feb 08 19:15:33 <Pali> its totally useless
Feb 08 19:15:49 <KotCzarny> pali: no, it isnt
Feb 08 19:15:56 <Pali> ??
Feb 08 19:16:02 <KotCzarny> if you have 10000 files and 65k block size
Feb 08 19:16:22 <KotCzarny> as is the case for n900 vfat
Feb 08 19:16:29 <Pali> then I use tar or similar format
Feb 08 19:16:32 <KotCzarny> s/block/cluster/
Feb 08 19:16:45 <Pali> not deflate compression for audio...
Feb 08 19:16:46 <KotCzarny> pali: modules/midis zip quite efficently
Feb 08 19:16:57 <KotCzarny> im not talking about zipping mp3s
Feb 08 19:17:22 <KotCzarny> hvsc has 47000 files
Feb 08 19:17:30 <bencoh> hvsc ?
Feb 08 19:17:36 <KotCzarny> high voltage sid collection
Feb 08 19:17:42 <bencoh> oh
Feb 08 19:17:54 <Pali> ~wiki hsvc
Feb 08 19:17:55 <KotCzarny> so yes, i do compress my 'audio'
Feb 08 19:17:56 <infobot> I couldn't find a matching article in wikipedia, look for yerselves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=hsvc&go=Go
Feb 08 19:18:06 <Pali> ~hvsc
Feb 08 19:18:22 <bencoh> http://www.hvsc.c64.org/
Feb 08 19:18:38 <bencoh> this chan is full of insane people <3
Feb 08 19:18:43 <KotCzarny> ;)
Feb 08 19:19:11 <KotCzarny> one does not buy linux based phone if one is not special
Feb 08 19:20:03 <KotCzarny> shall i say i integrated song leghts db in the player ?
Feb 08 19:20:17 <KotCzarny> <insert evil laugh>
Feb 08 19:20:33 <KotCzarny> also, libav, libxmp and few others
Feb 08 19:20:44 <KotCzarny> and no additional deps needed!
Feb 08 19:22:22 <KotCzarny> also, pali, zip is better for random access than tar.gz 
Feb 08 19:23:05 <Pali> yes, for random access
Feb 08 19:23:28 <Pali> but why not some LZMA based compression?
Feb 08 19:23:35 <KotCzarny> because i want it to be fast
Feb 08 19:23:43 <KotCzarny> zip decompression is v.quick and light
Feb 08 19:24:11 <Pali> I think that some variant of LZMA is also quick
Feb 08 19:24:38 <Pali> maybe 7z archive (which has also fs structure for random access)
Feb 08 19:24:56 <KotCzarny> also, zip is readily available via libz and libzzip
Feb 08 19:25:27 <Pali> maybe I should do some tests of compression ratio, pack and unpack time...
Feb 08 19:25:33 <Pali> of more aglos
Feb 08 19:25:43 <Pali> *algorihtms
Feb 08 19:26:05 <KotCzarny> zip works for me, and most people that have archives of old tunes usually have them in zip or rar
Feb 08 19:26:05 <xorly> "The great benchmark"
Feb 08 19:27:29 <Pali> rar is one of the worst archives (in usage)
Feb 08 19:29:25 <Pali> there are couple versions of rar and nobody know which version packager used for creating rar archive
Feb 08 19:29:47 <Pali> and only *last* version of winrar sw allows you to unpack any rar archive and only on windows...
Feb 08 19:30:58 <KotCzarny> pali: most likely rar3
Feb 08 19:31:09 <KotCzarny> as rar 2.x was open sourced i think
Feb 08 19:32:01 <KotCzarny> on my todo i have network controller for my player
Feb 08 19:32:23 <KotCzarny> think about it, old n800 connected to stereo
Feb 08 19:32:29 <KotCzarny> and used as a media player
Feb 08 19:32:30 <KotCzarny> mmm
Feb 08 19:32:51 <KotCzarny> and controlled via ssh or tcp
Feb 08 19:33:22 <KotCzarny> i shall get me some nfs modules 
Feb 08 19:41:45 <KotCzarny>   |> enjoy the silence (enjoy.mod) (20234, 1, Protracker M.K.)
Feb 08 19:44:41 <Pali> freemangordon: when you have a time, can you look at tidspbridge?
Feb 08 19:44:51 <Pali> in git are reverted all commits for driver
Feb 08 19:45:04 <Pali> but it does not compile (when you enable it in defconfig)
Feb 08 19:45:18 <Pali> because some parts of kernel code was changed...
Feb 08 19:45:34 <Pali> but in branch v3.18-rc6-n900 it was compiled successfully
Feb 08 20:00:18 <freemangordon> Pali: ok
Feb 08 20:12:01 <bencoh> 20:33 < KotCzarny> i shall get me some nfs modules 
Feb 08 20:12:08 <bencoh> kernel modules you mean ?
Feb 08 20:12:11 <KotCzarny> yes
Feb 08 20:12:51 <KotCzarny> unless i find fuse based nfs implementation
Feb 08 20:14:09 <bencoh> hm .... :]
Feb 08 20:15:45 <Pali> there is some fuse nfs implementation...
Feb 08 20:16:03 <KotCzarny> https://github.com/sahlberg/libnfs
Feb 08 20:18:12 <KotCzarny> pali: opening/listing zip archive with 8814 midis takes less than 1s on n800
Feb 08 20:18:26 <Pali> hm...
Feb 08 20:18:27 <KotCzarny> i think doing ls would take more
Feb 08 20:18:40 <KotCzarny> and this also includes time to sort the list
Feb 08 20:19:37 <KotCzarny>   |> Beethoven_Sonata_29_Op_106_HammerKlavier_Adagio_Sostenuto_3.mid (52758, 8mbgmpat)
Feb 08 20:19:52 <KotCzarny> 17 minutes of music in 52kB
Feb 08 20:20:42 <KotCzarny> and with good patchset its decent (ie. no compression artifacts, as the instruments are lossless
Feb 08 20:50:27 <xorly> freemangordon: maybe frequency scalng works, but cpufreq-info reports "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU"
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