**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 24 02:59:58 2015 Feb 24 08:50:25 hrm, no git for diablo? Feb 24 08:51:40 nvm, found it Feb 24 09:01:42 hrm, it's too old Feb 24 11:11:06 hi, is yappari messanger supported by you/us? Feb 24 11:12:04 if so, how can i view the source code, should i post that in dev channel? i found some features i dont like. Feb 24 11:12:28 where is dev channel? Feb 24 11:12:48 #maemo-devel Feb 24 11:13:39 lol Feb 24 11:13:44 when i view dev channel logs there are only join and exit messages :D Feb 24 11:13:48 looks a bit abandoned Feb 24 11:14:02 assume this one is maemo dev Feb 24 11:14:12 same people i think Feb 24 11:14:23 :) Feb 24 11:14:27 yea but they join and leave :D Feb 24 11:15:04 kong: https://github.com/agamez/yappari iirc ... but read the TMO thread :) Feb 24 11:15:20 TMO thread? Feb 24 11:15:36 talk.maemo.org Feb 24 11:16:50 drat. my alzheimer is kicking in. had to work on some feature today, but forgot what it was Feb 24 11:30:44 is that yellow message-notification popup a QMessageBox or just an other window? Feb 24 11:55:39 ~log Feb 24 11:55:40 official maemo logs are at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog Feb 24 12:01:37 i will find out Feb 24 15:14:32 moin :) Feb 24 15:19:58 oink Feb 24 15:46:09 Is it safe to do dd if=/dev/null of=~/MyDocs on a Nokia N900? Feb 24 15:46:19 you cant of to dir Feb 24 15:46:22 it must be a file Feb 24 15:46:36 also, you have to use /dev/zero, not /dev/null Feb 24 15:46:52 what are you trying to achieve? Feb 24 15:47:23 ok of=/dev/mmcb1k0p1 then Feb 24 15:47:39 I need to clear the contents but I've forgotten the PIN code Feb 24 15:47:54 there was a thread about getting pin from the dump Feb 24 15:48:34 And I haven't succeeded in decrypting the key Feb 24 15:48:48 I tried john the ripper on two different machines but it failed Feb 24 15:49:01 Anyway, dd would be a lot faster. Is there any reason why it'd be a bad idea? Feb 24 15:49:28 what does mount|grep mmcblk0p1 say? Feb 24 15:49:44 (my n900 is too far away for my lazy a** to get up) Feb 24 15:49:49 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat etc. etc. Feb 24 15:50:02 hmm Feb 24 15:50:27 and you are sure lock code is in mydocs? Feb 24 15:50:37 i would bet it's in /home/user Feb 24 15:51:14 I don't know where it is. I got it through grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1 Feb 24 15:51:29 mtd1 != mmcblk0 Feb 24 15:51:30 grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1 | tail -1 Feb 24 15:51:34 mtd is internal flash Feb 24 15:51:34 o Feb 24 15:51:49 mmcblk is internal sd card Feb 24 15:52:22 so as i said, erasing mmcblk0p1 wouldn't reset it Feb 24 15:52:39 I don't really need the PIN code anymore, actually Feb 24 15:52:47 I just want to erase my stuff Feb 24 15:53:02 btw. can you ssh onto device i guee? Feb 24 15:53:05 *guess Feb 24 15:53:09 I can Feb 24 15:53:11 dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.system_ui /com/nokia/system_ui/request com.nokia.system_ui.request.devlock_close string:"com.nokia.mce" string:"/com/nokia/mce/request" string:"com.nokia.mce.request" string:"devlock_callback" uint32:'0' Feb 24 15:53:19 maybe this one can help? Feb 24 15:54:01 at least to get to desktop Feb 24 15:54:30 recoverlock is a small shell script to automate the recovery of the N900 lock code Feb 24 15:54:33 and this one Feb 24 15:55:00 Again, I don't need the pin code. I just need a quick way to clear the device before selling it, and I'm wondering if there's any objection to deleting the contents of ~/MyDocs Feb 24 15:55:08 reflash then Feb 24 15:55:12 as simple as that Feb 24 15:55:54 then you would dd /home/user/MyDocs/zerofile bs=4k; sync; rm /home/user/MyDocs/zerofile Feb 24 15:57:08 /dev/mmcblk0p2 2064208 1069692 889660 55% /home Feb 24 15:57:35 your stuff is also there Feb 24 15:57:39 web passwords etc Feb 24 15:58:05 ssh keys (if you created any) Feb 24 15:58:25 reflash first anyway Feb 24 15:58:52 I think the pin code is stored in CAL (not sure about that) Feb 24 15:59:19 and ... yeah I'd reflash as well Feb 24 16:00:16 unless (s)he is a maemo community member as well and you want to send the device with all your installed apps :) Feb 24 16:00:29 and passwords Feb 24 16:00:53 reflashing wont clear the pin in CAL iirc (again, not sure) Feb 24 16:01:24 echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): > /home/user/MyDocs/phone_lock_hash Feb 24 16:01:36 it's somewhere on mtd1 Feb 24 16:01:53 Meh I'm too lazy to reflash Feb 24 16:02:09 rm -rf then Feb 24 16:02:21 melissa_: how comes you're selling btw ? I thought you wanted to keep it (?) Feb 24 16:02:26 erasing would require umount and mkfs Feb 24 16:02:38 bencoh, you remember me? I don't even come here often Feb 24 16:03:13 The battery isn't what it was, plus the vibration mechanism broke Feb 24 16:03:26 he he Feb 24 16:03:30 I really need the vibration feature so I'm buying a new phone Feb 24 16:03:49 how come it broke? Feb 24 16:03:49 melissa_: just the fact that you pop with a question and disappear from time to time, actually :) Feb 24 16:03:52 It might even be another n900 but I'm going to try an Xperia Mini Pro first Feb 24 16:04:01 :) Feb 24 16:04:24 also, can you do: echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): > /home/user/MyDocs/phone_lock_hash Feb 24 16:04:51 then paste the hash, wanna see how long would it take for john to decode it Feb 24 16:05:22 dd command, commence Feb 24 16:07:08 hm Feb 24 16:07:13 My phone doesn't turn on anymore Feb 24 16:07:23 told you Feb 24 16:07:37 Is it a brick now? Feb 24 16:07:39 nope Feb 24 16:07:43 btw : https://wiki.maemo.org/Resetting_the_device_to_factory_defaults Feb 24 16:07:50 KotCzarny, it broke because I programmed it to vibrate every 15 minutes Feb 24 16:07:50 but you should reflash now probably Feb 24 16:08:11 Looks like there's no way around it... Feb 24 16:08:16 hm, why would you do that ? Feb 24 16:08:30 bencoh, maybe lucid dreaming Feb 24 16:08:36 Nah, mindfulness Feb 24 16:08:40 but it works better with audio clues Feb 24 16:09:01 In Go games I get way too caught up in a local battle, so whenever I felt it vibrating, I'd take a moment and look at the board at large Feb 24 16:09:19 To see where the important moves are Feb 24 16:09:29 ooh, okay Feb 24 16:09:56 Great reason isn't it? Feb 24 16:10:07 good enough i guess Feb 24 16:10:15 still, audio clues would work too Feb 24 16:10:24 but ... do you play so much ? I mean ... I wouldnt expect vibration mechanism to break because of intensive sms/whatsapp use (for instance) :] Feb 24 16:11:06 Yeah I'm having it play an audio file but it usually isn't loud enough for in a cafe Feb 24 16:11:12 bencoh, I kept it on 24/7 Feb 24 16:11:31 you can also light a led light on a phone Feb 24 16:11:39 err, okay Feb 24 16:12:39 My understanding was that a vibration mechanism doesn't break that easily so I never bothered to turn it off Feb 24 16:13:07 to be honest I still find it "strange" that it broke Feb 24 16:13:37 (considering that a phone is meant to receive phone/messages and vibrate often) Feb 24 16:16:35 hmm Feb 24 16:16:35 Does it matter whether I use the UK firmware image or the regular one? Feb 24 16:16:41 I don't know which one I need Feb 24 16:16:59 i'm seeing n900 for ~35eur Feb 24 16:17:02 wow Feb 24 16:17:05 Yeah Feb 24 16:17:17 This guy is offering me 80 GBP for mine Feb 24 16:17:22 Can you guys believe that? Feb 24 16:17:31 weird Feb 24 16:17:47 a bit expensive considering it's defective Feb 24 16:17:49 It has a simple explanation: I'm selling it on Amazon Feb 24 16:18:03 People offer a lot of moneys for your stuff there Feb 24 16:18:16 KotCzarny: is that a final price ? Feb 24 16:18:28 as for firmware version, what charger you have? Feb 24 16:18:37 bancoh: final Feb 24 16:18:41 *bencoh Feb 24 16:18:57 The UK firmware images have ARM in the name. I need to avoid that, right? Feb 24 16:19:18 KotCzarny: that's cheap Feb 24 16:19:48 bencoh: yeah, it's sold by pawn shop Feb 24 16:19:53 could be stolen or something Feb 24 16:20:42 or broken Feb 24 16:20:44 but i see the prices aren't higher than 40eur in other listings Feb 24 16:20:57 nah, it's described as 100% functional Feb 24 16:21:17 if there is any damage, it's not apparent Feb 24 16:23:55 I see them for that price regularly, in fact Feb 24 16:24:09 I bought mine for 40 euros, it was in good condition Feb 24 16:24:50 i got mine from a friend Feb 24 16:25:14 brand new Feb 24 16:25:47 unless technology changes, i'm going to use it Feb 24 16:26:20 it has some unique features (easy app developing, fm transmitter, keyboard) Feb 24 16:26:34 and resistive screen Feb 24 16:26:43 which is nice during winter Feb 24 16:28:10 and now i got around to write audio player + network remote that can let me use it as audio station controllable remotely, or as a remote to my pc connected to hifi Feb 24 16:28:51 bencoh: do you know if n900 handles sdxc cards? Feb 24 16:29:05 or i need some kernel patches Feb 24 16:29:21 I think I had it working with a sdxc (?) Feb 24 16:29:47 would be swell, 128gb cards are getting relatively cheap Feb 24 16:30:11 hmm no, it was sdhc Feb 24 16:30:16 so I dunno Feb 24 16:30:54 melissa_: where did you buy it ? Feb 24 16:35:05 according to tmo, sdxc cards work in n900 Feb 24 16:35:13 neat Feb 24 16:35:18 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=77420 Feb 24 16:35:28 Just upgraded my N900 with Samsung EVO 64GB MicroSDXC card, speeds up to 48MB/s formatted ext3. Feb 24 16:35:29 hehe Feb 24 16:39:04 and apparently n8x0 do work with sdxc too Feb 24 16:39:18 2x 128GB storage space anyone? Feb 24 16:39:20 :> Feb 24 16:39:20 Ya'ay.... Feb 24 16:39:30 It seems I have a real native package builder for maemo! Feb 24 16:39:38 WiTHOUT SB=) Feb 24 16:39:42 i hate debs Feb 24 16:39:43 ;) Feb 24 16:39:47 tar.gz ftw! Feb 24 16:40:25 right, but i'm packaging stuff for the n900 KotCzarny Feb 24 16:40:30 aka... .debs needed Feb 24 16:40:39 nah. Feb 24 16:40:56 ./configure; make; make install Feb 24 16:41:24 sure Feb 24 16:41:31 how do u port it? Feb 24 16:41:35 so others can use it Feb 24 16:41:40 or so u dont have to reconfigure Feb 24 16:41:45 perhaps it takes 2 hrs to build like bind? Feb 24 16:41:49 etc.. Feb 24 16:41:53 all n900's are the same Feb 24 16:42:07 Sure.... but what if u want to share your work? Feb 24 16:42:10 but i'm just kidding Feb 24 16:42:32 as for sharing my work, my audio player consists of.. 1 file Feb 24 16:42:37 (ONE) Feb 24 16:42:56 how many files does your audio player require? Feb 24 16:43:00 (to package) Feb 24 16:44:24 plays anything from, mp3, through flac, aac, mid, mod(bunch of formats) up to wavs Feb 24 16:44:45 can be controlled via telnet and clear text Feb 24 16:44:50 or pygtk ui Feb 24 16:45:18 and requires only standard system libs (libc, stdc++, etc) Feb 24 16:45:38 do i like dependency hell? Feb 24 16:45:43 that's because you linked everything as static :p Feb 24 16:46:12 bencoh: yeah, and binary is ~4.5MB (could be half of that if i didnt packaged sids songlegth db inside) Feb 24 16:46:19 stryngs: I dont understand why you struggle that much with this, just so that you dont have to use SB, btw Feb 24 16:46:52 bencoh: actually it's a nice idea, i do development on device Feb 24 16:47:04 and grabbing 2gigs for sdk is.. meh Feb 24 16:47:16 I didnt grab 2g for sdk :) Feb 24 16:47:27 still a bunch Feb 24 16:47:39 you can install it on a regular debuntu install Feb 24 16:47:47 bencoh: I build directly on the n900; thats why +) Feb 24 16:47:48 huh? Feb 24 16:47:52 bencoh: It is my main box Feb 24 16:48:04 KotCzarny: debian/ubuntu (or any other distrib for that matters) Feb 24 16:48:07 nope Feb 24 16:48:11 sdk works on any system Feb 24 16:48:16 (i have slackware) Feb 24 16:48:34 "or any other distrib for that matters" ;) Feb 24 16:48:42 (it's just a bit more of a hassle) Feb 24 16:48:48 nope, it isnt Feb 24 16:48:55 installer script takes care of that Feb 24 16:49:06 setups sb then installs sdk inside Feb 24 16:49:10 anyway, you know how "easy" it is, then ;) Feb 24 16:49:13 no need to support deb/rpm on the host Feb 24 16:49:35 bencoh: only thing i had to do was to change 'temporary download location' inside script Feb 24 16:55:19 bencoh, marktplaats.nl Feb 24 16:55:34 local ebay-like site Feb 24 16:55:46 Yeah Feb 24 16:58:03 Oh btw KotCzarny root:u3P4mA1pj1skM: Feb 24 16:58:08 If you still want to decrypt it Feb 24 17:00:23 john started Feb 24 17:05:53 Is there a flasher 3.5 .deb for i686 ? Feb 24 17:06:10 amd64* Feb 24 17:06:17 i think flasher was available as a binary Feb 24 17:08:12 you might install multiarch support then you can run x86 binaries Feb 24 17:10:05 ok Feb 24 17:10:28 Btw, it doesn't matter whether I flash eMMC or the OS first, right? Feb 24 17:10:43 actually it does, check the wiki Feb 24 17:11:56 I see Feb 24 17:14:56 I successfully used the i386 version of flasher today on a Debian Jessie with multiarch. Couldn't find an amd64 version, but apparently didn't really need it anyway Feb 24 17:16:00 Yay for Jessie Feb 24 17:17:10 Also tried 0xFFFF, but apparently that didn't support flashing the MMC Feb 24 17:17:32 might be beacause mmc is just dd'able Feb 24 17:17:36 *because Feb 24 17:17:50 and is not a mtd device Feb 24 17:24:15 *shrugs* No idea. Flasher worked, so I didn't bother looking into the details :) Feb 24 17:24:30 sure Feb 24 17:24:38 that's what one should do anyway Feb 24 17:28:41 <_1_cb> Kannst you Germany spiking Feb 24 17:28:47 JesperH, how'd you install multiarch? Just apt-get install multiarch-support ? Feb 24 17:30:49 melissa_: It's been a while, but if IIRC: dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update Feb 24 17:31:04 Also described here: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO Feb 24 17:46:52 Thanks Feb 24 17:48:35 One thing that isn't clear to me: in step 11 of Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900, it tells me to run the "above commands" with the -R option. Am I supposed to run the exact same commands I just ran? Feb 24 17:48:55 "above commands" is a hyperlink but I'm not sure what it's referring to Feb 24 17:49:46 melissa: that hash is either salted or invalid Feb 24 17:49:50 Shouldn't I be using the "FIASCO/rootfs image", wherever I can get those? Feb 24 17:50:09 The -R option just makes it reboot. Not necessary, but convenient for when you're done Feb 24 17:50:50 Okay but FIASCO image is a different image than than the VANILLA one, right? Feb 24 17:54:49 My understanding is that "fiasco" is a word for the type of file. Fiasco images can contain a number of parts, such as kernel, initrd and rootfs, and you can choose to flash just one of those parts Feb 24 17:56:02 The way I flashed mine earlier today was: flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f Feb 24 17:56:13 Followed by: flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R Feb 24 17:58:45 So FIASCO refers to these instructions: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Linux_PC . Is that correct? Feb 24 18:01:32 http://blog.tldnr.org/english/2015/01/10/reviving-an-old-n900-without-lock-code/ Feb 24 18:01:38 maybe this will help you Feb 24 18:58:08 anyone with pygtk latin1 to unicode experience? Feb 24 19:13:20 i recovered my devices lock code with john the ripper Feb 24 19:14:38 vajb, thing is some codes don't resolve Feb 24 19:14:51 might be pr1.3 added salt or something Feb 24 19:14:56 how many of u use bme-replacement? Feb 24 19:15:07 oh i see Feb 24 19:15:15 i'm using stock fremantle Feb 24 19:15:42 i kinda remember flashing it first to pr1.3 and then solved lock code Feb 24 19:16:40 you are free to try your john on the hash Feb 24 19:16:50 it was posted few screens back Feb 24 19:17:21 i would really like to hear some user opinions about bme-replacement. Feb 24 19:17:29 yes i saw it Feb 24 19:17:51 last time i was playing with custom thingies was ~2009-2010 Feb 24 19:18:00 i guess there is no point trying again if u already did :) Feb 24 19:18:01 so many years with stock fremantle Feb 24 19:18:22 Vajb: I guess bq27x00_battery gives you different readings than bq27200.sh as well ? Feb 24 19:19:04 hmm how to get bq27x00_battery values? Feb 24 19:19:19 apt-cache search? Feb 24 19:19:25 from /sys/modules Feb 24 19:19:42 but I'm referring to the value status-area-applet-battery displays Feb 24 19:19:44 my main concern is that applet never reaching 100% Feb 24 19:19:50 the "last-full" value seems odd Feb 24 19:20:16 Vajb: hmm, that's probably normal behavior Feb 24 19:20:32 1221/1308 is the best i can get Feb 24 19:20:45 maybe 1308 is 'factory max' ? Feb 24 19:20:53 and 1221 is last-max ? Feb 24 19:21:11 seems strange because bq.sh shows a lot more Feb 24 19:21:23 and also gets to 100% Feb 24 19:21:46 what does battery-eye show in stats? Feb 24 19:22:21 KotCzarny: 1308 is calibrated discharge value and 1221 is the value that battery is charged to Feb 24 19:22:56 dont have battery eye installed Feb 24 19:22:58 right, might be that battery is uncalibrated Feb 24 19:23:14 bq.sh says that it is calibrated Feb 24 19:23:18 you did full cycle without interruptions? Feb 24 19:23:27 ci:0 Feb 24 19:23:34 yup Feb 24 19:23:40 several actually Feb 24 19:23:59 i think it neede three or four before ci was set to 0 Feb 24 19:24:08 needed* Feb 24 19:26:45 right now im thinking of setting gconf value to 0 (so it would use measured value), but im having second thought since this isn't my testing device Feb 24 19:27:29 and with my testing device i can't calibrate battery because it reboots randomly Feb 24 19:27:43 so can't really test it there Feb 24 19:27:50 :) Feb 24 19:28:04 do you know anyone who has nokia using bl5j? Feb 24 19:28:08 swap/test Feb 24 19:28:14 nope Feb 24 19:28:28 everyone has samsung nowadays Feb 24 19:28:41 i have nokia n900 Feb 24 19:28:43 sad progress of things imo Feb 24 19:28:59 so do u maybe live next door? lol Feb 24 19:29:24 um Feb 24 19:29:51 few hundreds km south, it seems Feb 24 19:30:05 but does it matter what applet shows? Will my device still take everything out from battery? Feb 24 19:30:35 estonia? Feb 24 19:30:44 few more hundreds Feb 24 19:30:44 russia? Feb 24 19:30:47 south Feb 24 19:31:05 white russia Feb 24 19:31:18 a bit to the west Feb 24 19:31:19 bah belarus Feb 24 19:31:30 poland Feb 24 19:31:47 :) Feb 24 19:31:55 still, make a graph Feb 24 19:32:15 either manually or install battery-eye Feb 24 19:32:43 well i don't need graph just every last bit of juice from battery :) Feb 24 19:32:54 but in my opinion you are just running a bit of time with battery showing 0mAh remaining Feb 24 19:33:06 observe when in red Feb 24 19:33:39 yes it does that, but without looking bq.sh loop mode i have no idea how low it is Feb 24 19:34:07 last i tried i had 3600mv when it show 0mah at applet Feb 24 19:34:14 i noticed similar situation on my thinkpads with old batterys Feb 24 19:34:37 but that's kinda hard to keep looking looping shell while working... Feb 24 19:34:57 this one is new battery Feb 24 19:35:04 that's why i coerce you into installing battery-eye Feb 24 19:35:08 it will do it for you Feb 24 19:35:12 about 40 cycles old Feb 24 19:35:35 or just write a script Feb 24 19:35:40 or search tmo Feb 24 19:36:09 hmm i think i installed that to my test device, but didn't find it too usefull Feb 24 19:36:23 i like the amount of data it shows Feb 24 19:36:49 graphs are pretty detailed, and statistics show few interesting things too Feb 24 19:37:12 sameway i like the data that bq27200.sh is showing Feb 24 19:38:17 btw. you say you have 2 devices? Feb 24 19:38:24 is estel anywhere around? Feb 24 19:38:28 yes i do Feb 24 19:38:36 swap batterys then Feb 24 19:38:41 batteries? Feb 24 19:38:52 one stable and one booting constantly Feb 24 19:39:27 i don't think problem is battery Feb 24 19:39:35 at least it shouldn't be Feb 24 19:39:38 but you will see data change Feb 24 19:39:59 yes? Feb 24 19:40:24 you should, unless they are identical cycle/capacity wise Feb 24 19:40:39 kinda like starting calibration from scratch to see if it makes difference? Feb 24 19:40:47 yes Feb 24 19:41:02 you will see if the max number goes inline with discharge max Feb 24 19:42:26 hmm think i will try that Feb 24 19:42:35 thx Feb 24 19:47:16 you might also fix the other device Feb 24 19:48:04 Wow Feb 24 19:48:11 The original firmware actually looks better Feb 24 19:48:15 lol Feb 24 19:48:28 check if vibra works Feb 24 19:50:56 i've tried a lot of stuff for that other device, but none fixed it so far Feb 24 19:51:27 vajb, can you boot into bootloader? Feb 24 19:51:28 i have some advices to fix it, but haven't got time to apply them Feb 24 19:51:40 ie. the part where it only goes into ramdisk Feb 24 19:52:14 yes i have bootmenu installed Feb 24 19:52:32 Is it possible with that firmware to connect to the Internet with the WPA2 key? Feb 24 19:52:48 fsck seems to help little while Feb 24 19:53:00 vajb: bad internal flash? Feb 24 19:53:13 It only offers two methods that involve pressing buttons on my router which I don't have Feb 24 19:53:13 you might get lucky booting into system on sd Feb 24 19:53:21 it's working normally till it suddenly reboots Feb 24 19:53:53 vajb: did you try moving system to sd card? Feb 24 19:53:57 tried cssu-s and -t. Currently having thumb Feb 24 19:54:02 no Feb 24 19:55:48 maybe next week i will give it some sweet loving, if i have time Feb 24 19:55:57 but now i must sleep Feb 24 19:55:59 :) Feb 24 19:56:01 later Feb 24 19:57:12 melissa: you mean wpa2 enterprise or wpa2 personal? Feb 24 19:58:40 but you might have stumbled into failing certificate Feb 24 19:58:56 someone was having similar problem here few days ago Feb 24 20:05:18 possibly personal. melissa_, who is 'managing' the AP? Feb 24 20:05:38 AP? Feb 24 20:06:04 access point Feb 24 20:06:12 o Feb 24 20:06:23 I think I'm just going to reflash it with RD mode enabled Feb 24 20:06:29 I only need root briefly Feb 24 20:06:42 I'm managing it myself Feb 24 20:07:18 anyway, N900 is a WPA2 device Feb 24 20:07:21 But the router only has buttons for turning it on and off, so it won't help Feb 24 20:07:46 It doesn't offer me to type in the password Feb 24 20:08:29 It tells me "press this one button on your router (which I don't have) and then press Done" Feb 24 20:08:34 something is telling the N900 that there is WPS active on that AP ... are you sure you don't have _two_ networks on the N900 with similar name? Feb 24 20:08:54 I checked, but couldn't find it Feb 24 20:09:09 check under the labels Feb 24 20:09:14 or in ap manual Feb 24 20:09:31 or press the ligths Feb 24 20:09:32 hehe Feb 24 20:09:40 press anywhere Feb 24 20:12:01 if N900's connection dialog doesn't show you two networks (one with WPS and one without), then try creating the connection manually from the Settings > Internet Connections menu. Feb 24 20:13:11 melissa_: what model router/ap is it? Any WPS type connections should show on the N900 icd2 popup. Feb 24 20:13:27 Actually, even if I get root access, I still won't have a way to retrieve the PIN Feb 24 20:13:35 So all of this is irrelevant Feb 24 20:13:57 I already have the hash Feb 24 20:13:57 press the ap in places Feb 24 20:19:52 wow, someone from Philippines downloaded oscp Feb 24 20:22:51 And this is why Comic Sans should be the default font on every machine. Feb 24 20:23:03 Turned out a 1 was really an l Feb 24 20:23:13 I have the PIN now Feb 24 20:25:09 (I manually typed out the hash from reading the screen) Feb 24 20:25:27 fail Feb 24 20:40:17 lol, nokias 770 go for ~30-40usd on ebay Feb 24 20:40:28 and more.. Feb 24 20:41:08 so, anyone got 770 that they aren't using anymore? i could grab one Feb 24 21:10:18 hm Feb 24 21:11:01 The person who's buying this N900 lives in the UK, but I bought it here in the Netherlands. Should I install UK firmware on it or not? Feb 24 21:11:30 I mean does it have to do with connectivity, or is it that certain devices need other firmware? Feb 24 21:20:21 melissa_: use global Feb 24 21:55:34 Well, I'm glad that's out of the way Feb 24 21:55:41 Thanks for all the help, guys Feb 24 21:56:34 Also I guess this is kinda goodbye. I'm not gonna barge in here anymore bencoh because I won't have any questions to ask :p Feb 24 23:51:26 aww, one less user :( Feb 24 23:52:53 inevitable... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 25 02:59:58 2015