**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 29 02:59:59 2015 Mar 29 07:23:17 calbration number one with mugen battery failed with a new way. All went smoothly and device didn't reboot untill voltage dropped below 3248, but problem was vdq1 suddenly turning to vdq0. That happen around 3500mv. Any solutions or ideas? Mar 29 09:11:10 vajb: charge/discharge it normally a few times? Mar 29 09:11:18 without calibrating etc Mar 29 10:06:36 yeah, but it doesn't calibrate new mah value if vdq is set to 0 Mar 29 10:08:14 will see what happens on this cycle. I brought it down to 3700mv and will use it lightly till it turns of Mar 29 10:08:51 if it doesn't calibrate now i guess i'll have to try that old "recharge only one hour" trick Mar 29 10:09:45 im guessing that vdq was set to 0 because charge chip didn't believe that it can still be discharging... Mar 29 10:11:28 last measure capacity is 1547 and still if mugen keeps what it claims (being 2400mah) it's still less than 1000mah difference so chip shouldn't get confused Mar 29 10:12:10 but for me it seems it did or then im not understanding something (yet again) Mar 29 15:25:37 ok it happen again. Voltage is 3750mv and vdq is set to 0 without any sane reason Mar 29 15:57:48 was it 1 before? Mar 29 15:59:48 yep Mar 29 15:59:59 like the first try also Mar 29 16:00:08 this was my scond try Mar 29 16:00:14 second* Mar 29 16:00:14 but yes, iirc VDQ has its own cycle .. so KotCzarny's suggestion holds :) Mar 29 16:00:26 just keep at it. Mar 29 16:00:43 i will :) Mar 29 16:01:33 "dear doctor maemo. My device is suffering premature turn off of the vdq flag" Mar 29 16:01:41 XD Mar 29 16:04:38 see for example Docscrutinizer/ShadowJK comments on my question in http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-10-26.log.html#t2011-10-26T22:35:36 Mar 29 16:05:03 so N900 can even calibrate 'mid-air' lol Mar 29 16:07:57 another case of VDQ becoming 0 unexpectedly: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-05-12.log.html#t2012-05-12T05:06:47~ Mar 29 16:09:25 but most likely your issue is this one .. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-24.log.html#t2013-01-24T19:49:08 "if it's too big a jump upwards, vdq goes to 0 and it wont learn" quoting ShadowJK again Mar 29 16:09:30 :) Mar 29 16:11:12 yeah thats what i thought at a first place. Hence speculating about recharging only 1 hour Mar 29 17:00:28 i think battery circuit doesnt like too big changes in capacity, so it has to be done few times before it gets to real value Mar 29 17:01:05 just ignore it and use device for a month Mar 29 17:09:25 Sicelo: i believe you're having problems with yappari Mar 29 17:10:01 i'm out of town but will be releasing new version next weekend Mar 29 17:31:20 ok ceene :) Mar 29 17:31:24 thanks Mar 29 21:28:12 hello everyone, I can use fMMS regularly for both receiving and sending. Still, I can't receive newer smartphones' SMSes if they feature some emoticons Mar 29 21:29:09 if that matters, during one of my attempts I asked to send me a picture with emoticons inside an MMS and I got a picture with an "smil.xml". It was an Android smartphone Mar 29 21:30:04 so I'm wondering if newer smartphones comply with an emoticons standard set with an .xml tagging system or something like that Mar 29 21:30:27 what do you think about it? Mar 29 21:31:40 I'm in no way knowledgeable about this (I use my N900 for games, Jolla as a phone) but googling around, I got this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9492041/android-what-to-do-with-application-smil-mime-type Mar 29 21:32:11 not sure if that helps as I'm sure you can google things as well as I can, but just in case you hadn't found it Mar 29 21:35:38 well I'm actually looking for information about these newer emoticons sets but I can't seem to find anything useful about it Mar 29 21:35:54 I think devices became too close-sourced to even care about these things Mar 29 21:35:58 could it be emoji that you're thinking of? Mar 29 21:37:26 I'm researching Mar 29 21:37:56 it's possible yes, but I'm not sure Mar 29 21:38:24 when I get e-mails from Iphones sometimes they include this kind of symbols that are actual font characters in my mail client Mar 29 21:39:04 that part sounds like emoji Mar 29 21:39:08 there is a thread about that on tmo, an article on thp's website, and a github project Mar 29 21:39:23 (now to find the links ... :) Mar 29 21:39:35 so may be, yes. I'm sure I never get SMSes coming from Windows Mobile phones if they include this sort of characters. I'm trying to realize if Win Mobile features them as plain emoticons while composing a message. Mar 29 21:39:42 there you go: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94027 Mar 29 21:39:58 that's great bencoh Mar 29 21:40:12 thanks a lot, I'm reading already Mar 29 21:40:38 :) Mar 29 21:41:17 what's Harmoji exactly? A maemo program? Mar 29 21:42:18 maybe this fix is more important than we realize for all maemo users.. I'd suggest that it is hightlighted somehow, or linked to in homepage ;) Mar 29 21:42:37 harmoji is harmattan only, no? Mar 29 21:43:19 I'm waiting for hildon to load.. will never know :D Mar 29 21:43:40 Harmoji is the Harmattan implementation of Emoji. Harmoji enables the viewing of Emoji characters throughout the system, as well as inputting them. Mar 29 21:44:52 ok... not good for maemo Mar 29 21:45:14 my hildon isn't up yet .. gosh Mar 29 21:45:39 hildon desktop? or hildon browser? Mar 29 21:46:12 oh excuse me.. I meant the app. manager Mar 29 21:46:33 oh, right Mar 29 21:51:05 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=b1bf5cbec6b4c593a28d92a2325b1c60&t=93427&page=2 Mar 29 21:51:16 someone seems to have a fix for maemo too Mar 29 21:56:04 do you think this is safe anyway? I don't know.. Mar 29 21:56:53 as long as you backup the file Mar 29 21:57:10 I'd say it's safe Mar 29 21:57:21 mmm.. ok. I need a real backup solution first Mar 29 21:57:34 may I ask if you know a good backup software for maemo? Mar 29 21:58:08 there are instruction on that post to backup the file that needs patching Mar 29 21:58:21 sms, contacts book, /home/user directory is easily copied via USB Mar 29 21:58:40 !backupmenu Mar 29 21:58:46 ~backupmenu Mar 29 21:58:46 i guess backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 Mar 29 22:00:01 I looked into backupmenu but it looks scary, I still fear I won't be able to flash again because of the U key that is needed for backupmenu if I recall right Mar 29 22:00:31 so I would install it after backing up the things I wrote before, than save a whole copy of my OS with backupmenu tight after Mar 29 22:00:34 right* after Mar 29 22:00:58 then enable emojis, work awaits :D Mar 29 22:01:07 yea, well I wouldn't use backup menu just to patch that file Mar 29 22:01:12 I don't think it's that necesarry Mar 29 22:01:26 sounds ok Mar 29 22:01:52 are SMSes and phonebook located somewhere within the /home/user/ directory? Mar 29 22:02:15 so that if I compress it all they're included? Mar 29 22:04:27 well, the built-in backup will save my SMS and phonebook indeed, I will just lose the MMSes Mar 29 22:05:07 mmm.. not the phonebook :\ Mar 29 22:05:08 I'd like to know, too. Where are SMSs stored? Mar 29 22:05:15 /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el.db Mar 29 22:05:32 sqlite db Mar 29 22:07:34 .rtcom-messaging-ui/draft.db may contain email drafts? Mar 29 22:09:04 it would be nice to explore that db ;) anyway. I have one called el-v1.db Mar 29 22:13:08 Yes, that holds SMS messages and phone call history? Mar 29 22:14:12 great Mar 29 22:14:23 kopple: what's wrong with your U key ? Mar 29 22:14:44 Oksana, do you happen to know where the phonebook database is stored instead? Mar 29 22:15:06 Contacts? Mar 29 22:15:29 bencoh when flashing last time I had to press U to enable the USB data transmission at boot-time Mar 29 22:15:34 Oksana, yes Mar 29 22:15:42 I remember that there is a specific folder with images-of-contacts, crop-sized to proper dimensions... Mar 29 22:16:14 With each image being a separate file Mar 29 22:16:23 * Oksana dives into X Terminal... Mar 29 22:16:28 :) Mar 29 22:17:49 cd /home/user/.osso-abook/ Mar 29 22:18:02 great Mar 29 22:18:35 there's no better thing than manual backup :) Mar 29 22:26:30 for the record, I found a copy of /home/user/.osso-abook/ called .osso-abook-backup also inside the official Backup Application output when including communications logs and calendar entries Mar 29 22:27:14 it's not clear that it contains your contact list as well, but it does Mar 29 22:40:31 By the way, when you put human's birthday into abook, is it possible to specify: 1. Timezone; 2. birthtime? Yes, odd question... Mar 29 22:41:59 And even odder one: is it possible to add death-day for a human into abook? Like, a human you knew, died. You do not wish to erase him, but you do not wish to keep calling a dead-man, either... Mar 29 22:44:56 :] Mar 29 23:03:57 sounds like .. mocking. Isn't it? Mar 29 23:22:09 No, it isn't. Mocking, it isn't. Also, I would like to have country-of-residence of a contact displayed prominently, and used somehow. For example, there should be a mechanism for checking that phone-numbers are "valid" (correspond to country) so that if you do try to call them from abroad (for whatever reason), the phone would have already pre-pended the correct telephone code? Mar 29 23:23:16 :) Mar 29 23:23:57 Also, last-first name fields assume that Contact is always Human. What about Company as contact - what has to be entered as First-Last names? Mar 29 23:24:57 A map with locations of all contacts would be handy. Especially if it could include live location from those of contacts who allow you to see their location... Mar 29 23:25:47 But that's already out of scope of Address Book. It's more like a mapplet, tightly integrated with ABook and Clock... Mar 29 23:27:19 * Oksana wonders if there are any recent time-zone changes which need to be integrated into Maemo 5 time-zone-table, and if they were integrated properly already... Mar 30 00:13:02 1) id -> uid=0 (root) 2) ./patcher -> /bin/sh: ./patcher: Permission denied Mar 30 00:13:42 3) sudo ./patcher -> user is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. Mar 30 00:15:08 I admit I don't have any experience with patching things at all, but what about this? Mar 30 00:15:13 Not sure what is patcher? Mar 30 00:15:35 * Oksana would have used sudo gainroot, instead of sudo ./patcher ... Mar 30 00:15:37 it should be an executable from a tar Mar 30 00:15:47 I did to gain root permission Mar 30 00:15:59 sudo gainroot and then all the rest following Mar 30 00:16:19 If you have rootsh package installed (recommended), you use sudo gainroot to gain root Mar 30 00:16:34 I was following this guide http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=b1bf5cbec6b4c593a28d92a2325b1c60&t=93427&page=2 and I used rootsh Mar 30 00:16:37 Then, you enter commands, like ./patcher , in separate lines Mar 30 00:17:17 no longer using sudo? I did.. Mar 30 00:17:57 http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access#rootsh Mar 30 00:17:58 ./patcher /usr/lib/libsms-utils.so.0.0.0 libemojitils.so.0 Mar 30 00:18:29 thanks Mar 30 00:18:34 I'm trying again Mar 30 00:19:37 I still get sh: ./patcher: Permission denied Mar 30 00:20:01 Is it in MyDocs? Mar 30 00:20:09 yes Mar 30 00:20:18 MyDocs filesystem does not have executable privileges Mar 30 00:20:24 Fat, and all that... Mar 30 00:20:43 Move it to /home/user/something/ , or whatever... Mar 30 00:21:02 oh god :( What if I hadn't asked you... file systems has execution implications? Mar 30 00:21:07 thanks Mar 30 00:22:25 If you really want to use sudo, keep in mind to not ever run visudo: The 'correct' way to add yourself to sudoers on Maemo 5 would be to put your entry in a file in /etc/sudoers.d/ Mar 30 00:24:12 thanks, but I still get the Permission denied error when moving that folder to /home/user Mar 30 00:24:19 Like: don't forget to copy your python files to /opt on N900. If you copy to Mydocs directory you will not be able to change the permissions to Linux execute permissions as Mydocs is a FAT file system, it does not understand permissions. Mar 30 00:24:55 When the file(s) is-are in /home/user/, then you can use chmod +x filename to make it executable Mar 30 00:25:23 * Oksana is glad that you have the files neat in one folder Mar 30 00:25:48 let me try Mar 30 00:25:49 Does chmod +x ./patcher work? Mar 30 00:26:17 it. does. Mar 30 00:26:24 suuuper Mar 30 00:34:45 Oksana, in your opinion all these things I ignore can be better achieved by studying UNIX systems or Linux precisely? I need some theory Mar 30 01:29:27 kopple: I would recommend you to start with Unix. Because Unix-like systems include: Linux, BSD, GNU, Solaris, OpenDarwin... Mar 30 01:30:06 There is even Plan 9 from Bell Labs, but it's post-Unix, not intended to be completely compatible with pre-existing Unix Mar 30 01:51:45 thank you kindly **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 30 02:59:59 2015