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Apr 04 03:42:13 <prototypejesus> anyone wanna chat?
Apr 04 13:36:16 <antranigv> ~led
Apr 04 13:36:20 <infobot> well, led is (Light Emitting Diode) A piece of electronics that emits light when a current is passed through it. It does not work the same way as a light bulb so it does not have the problem of burning out. It also only emits a few frequencies of light so it is a specific color.
Apr 04 13:36:27 <KotCzarny> he he
Apr 04 13:36:47 <antranigv> hmm, and what to do if the led is not lighting?
Apr 04 13:36:52 <KotCzarny> reboot?
Apr 04 13:37:01 <antranigv> I just reflashed, maybe I did something wrong?
Apr 04 13:37:14 <KotCzarny> reflashed with what?
Apr 04 13:37:33 <antranigv> KotCzarny: PR1.3.1 I think
Apr 04 13:37:41 <KotCzarny> hmm
Apr 04 13:37:45 <antranigv> I wanted to get rid of CSSU :( dep hell
Apr 04 13:37:50 <KotCzarny> lol
Apr 04 13:38:10 <RiD> i like cssu, why get rid of it :(
Apr 04 13:38:31 <antranigv> I like it too! just dep hell, most of programs had problems :(
Apr 04 13:38:43 <antranigv> hmm, CloudGPS, mappero, etc.
Apr 04 13:39:13 <antranigv> thanks you infobot
Apr 04 13:39:24 <antranigv> does it answer AI question?
Apr 04 13:40:19 <KotCzarny> as for the led, try the reboot first
Apr 04 13:40:34 <KotCzarny> then you can try flashing pr1.3
Apr 04 13:40:52 <antranigv> KotCzarny: nop, no hope :-/
Apr 04 13:40:59 <antranigv> it's okey, I'll reflash
Apr 04 13:41:28 <antranigv> I'm afraid of CSSU, how can I install it and not get a dep hell?
Apr 04 13:41:34 <antranigv> I like it. hmm
Apr 04 13:41:40 <KotCzarny> choose what you install then
Apr 04 13:42:01 <KotCzarny> that's why i wrote oscp
Apr 04 13:42:05 <KotCzarny> almost no deps
Apr 04 13:42:12 <KotCzarny> (apart from basic system ones)
Apr 04 13:42:19 <KotCzarny> yet it plays almost any file format
Apr 04 13:42:42 <antranigv> KotCzarny: it's python2.5 on maemo?
Apr 04 13:42:52 <KotCzarny> i think yes
Apr 04 13:43:13 <antranigv> you compiled it to C/C++?
Apr 04 13:43:20 <KotCzarny> core is in c
Apr 04 13:43:24 <KotCzarny> remote is in pygtk
Apr 04 13:43:39 <KotCzarny> but you can write your own remote if you want as it's in plain text
Apr 04 13:44:14 <KotCzarny> and if you dont like python or graphical interfaces you can simply run as ncurses app
Apr 04 13:44:30 <KotCzarny> (and still can control it remotely too)
Apr 04 13:44:58 <antranigv> thats nice! so I can ssh ant control (:
Apr 04 13:45:02 <antranigv> and*
Apr 04 13:45:29 <KotCzarny> yes, thats also possible
Apr 04 13:45:46 <antranigv> KotCzarny: I had to reboot 3 times, now LED is working (:
Apr 04 13:45:47 <KotCzarny> and it can work on n900/n8x0 or pc linux
Apr 04 13:45:57 <KotCzarny> yeah, reboot is a magical thing
Apr 04 13:51:37 <antranigv> what are the must have repos, except extras ?
Apr 04 13:51:46 <KotCzarny> depends what you need
Apr 04 13:51:57 <KotCzarny> some software is in extras-devel
Apr 04 13:52:01 <KotCzarny> but that is a wild one
Apr 04 13:52:18 <KotCzarny> ie. mix and mash and sometimes even unstable
Apr 04 13:52:39 <KotCzarny> and your question should be 'what apps do you need'
Apr 04 13:52:46 <KotCzarny> then look for them apps
Apr 04 13:53:41 <antranigv> so, music player (I'll use yours), GPS, maps, mappero, GNU stuff (to build some programs). and that's it (:
Apr 04 13:53:44 <antranigv> FCamera.
Apr 04 13:53:59 <antranigv> any way to have python2.7 ? :(
Apr 04 13:53:59 <KotCzarny> for gnu stuff you might want a scratchbox on pc
Apr 04 13:54:42 <KotCzarny> havent checked, usually i just try compiling, or stealing from debian armel repos
Apr 04 13:54:49 <KotCzarny> but that can lead to dependency hell
Apr 04 13:55:29 <antranigv> hmm I see :-/ I'm learning python, so I wanted to code on N900 as well.
Apr 04 13:55:32 <KotCzarny> still, if you want to build something and it's failing, you may check debian packages for patches
Apr 04 13:56:07 <KotCzarny> http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/p/
Apr 04 13:56:16 <KotCzarny> i see bunch of pythons here
Apr 04 13:56:28 <KotCzarny> but as i said, it could work, or it could be unstable
Apr 04 13:56:43 <KotCzarny> and sometimes it can even trash your os
Apr 04 13:56:56 <KotCzarny> so check it first before anything else
Apr 04 13:58:43 <antranigv> there was Debian on N900, right? like, umm, chroot env ?
Apr 04 13:58:48 <KotCzarny> yes
Apr 04 13:58:51 <antranigv> so it wont touch the OS. hmm
Apr 04 13:59:00 <antranigv> that looks interesting.
Apr 04 13:59:08 <antranigv> I'll check that one(:
Apr 04 15:03:44 <grammoboy> hm mpd http stream via pulseaudio n900 not working...
Apr 04 15:03:47 <grammoboy> :(
Apr 04 15:04:04 <grammoboy> using cutempd
Apr 04 15:06:23 <grammoboy> pulseaudio borked on n900?
Apr 04 15:07:02 <freemangordon> grammoboy: you're on cssu?
Apr 04 15:07:27 <grammoboy> freemangordon, cssu?
Apr 04 15:07:34 <freemangordon> ~cssu
Apr 04 15:07:39 <infobot> cssu is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)
Apr 04 15:08:13 <grammoboy> not that I know of :)
Apr 04 15:08:59 <freemangordon> grammoboy: PA reports version 16(which is incorrect), in CSSU there is a fix to report the correct version (15)
Apr 04 15:09:23 <grammoboy> freemangordon, ah, and that might fix it?
Apr 04 15:09:28 <freemangordon> :nod:
Apr 04 15:09:43 <freemangordon> anyway, it is advisable to install cssu
Apr 04 15:09:47 <freemangordon> see http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog
Apr 04 15:13:24 <grammoboy> will do
Apr 04 15:14:24 <freemangordon> grammoboy: keep in mind that it seems PA fixes are only in cssu-testing
Apr 04 15:14:58 <grammoboy> good to know
Apr 04 15:15:26 <freemangordon> grammoboy: also you may check:
Apr 04 15:15:32 <freemangordon> ~cssu-thumb
Apr 04 15:15:35 <infobot> somebody said cssu-thumb was <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb
Apr 04 15:58:11 <grammoboy> freemangordon, that fixed it! thx
Apr 04 16:06:49 <freemangordon> grammoboy: :)
Apr 04 16:07:03 <grammoboy> thx a lot
Apr 04 16:26:43 <KotCzarny> grammoboy: check out oscp
Apr 04 17:35:33 <KotCzarny> hmm
Apr 04 17:35:57 <KotCzarny> how can i get volume button presses when device is locked and blanked?
Apr 04 18:33:28 <grammoboy> KotCzarny, oscp?
Apr 04 18:33:49 <KotCzarny> yeah, media player with minimal dependencies and maximal flexibility
Apr 04 18:34:36 <KotCzarny> i might stretch it a bit but everyone who posted feedback was positively surprised
Apr 04 18:47:28 <grammoboy> I need a good mpd client
Apr 04 18:56:32 <KotCzarny> grammoboy: convert to oscp
Apr 04 18:56:48 <KotCzarny> it's also server-client, but better
Apr 04 18:57:05 <grammoboy> hm no interest atm :)
Apr 04 18:57:14 <grammoboy> but thx
Apr 04 18:57:21 <KotCzarny> i'm okay with that
Apr 04 18:57:23 <KotCzarny> :)
Apr 04 19:07:54 <Sicelo> can anyone confirm if N900 supports AVRCP protocol (bluetooth)
Apr 04 19:10:21 <kerio> whats that
Apr 04 19:10:46 <kerio> oh like controlling the n900 volume from the bluetooth headphones
Apr 04 19:11:32 <Sicelo> yes, and choose next/previous track
Apr 04 19:11:38 <Sicelo> seems it's supported :)
Apr 04 19:12:14 <kerio> next/previous track yes
Apr 04 19:12:16 <kerio> volume control no
Apr 04 19:12:50 <Sicelo> ok. thanks for that info
Apr 04 19:12:58 <KotCzarny> well, just run dbus-monitor --system
Apr 04 19:13:04 <KotCzarny> and see if it reacts to your buttons
Apr 04 19:14:34 <KotCzarny> let me check the log someone posted when i was adding bt to oscp
Apr 04 19:15:44 <KotCzarny> signal sender=:1.36 -> dest=(null destination) serial=1417 path=/org/bluez/1075/hci0/dev_00_02_5B_01_33_53; interface=org.bluez.Headset; member=PropertyChanged
Apr 04 19:15:45 <KotCzarny>    string "SpeakerGain"
Apr 04 19:15:45 <KotCzarny>    variant       uint16 12
Apr 04 19:15:49 <KotCzarny> they are reported
Apr 04 19:16:00 <KotCzarny> but don't know if the system handles them
Apr 04 19:20:06 <Sicelo> thanks
Apr 04 19:20:09 <KotCzarny> http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/bluez/audio-api.txt
Apr 04 19:20:42 <KotCzarny> but as i said, i dont know if it affects system volume in any way
Apr 04 19:21:37 <KotCzarny> might be only informative if headset has its own volume handling
Apr 04 23:10:54 <grammoboy> This seems to be a better mpd client on the N900, but I still can't choose audio output https://github.com/jmechnich/qmpc
Apr 04 23:11:00 <grammoboy> better then cutempc
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