**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 19 02:59:59 2015 Apr 19 15:17:09 KotCzarny: "maybe the company behind the telegram software IS a scam?" - tell me that you are joking -.-' Apr 19 15:17:34 totalizator, just a thought from browsing all android app comments Apr 19 15:18:03 sixwheeledbeast^ merlin1991: somebody removed the tags, so yay! and ty Apr 19 15:18:21 there is definitely something going on, either by the company itself, or maybe something is bundled with it Apr 19 15:18:41 totalizator: thank a tmo mod.... ;) Apr 19 15:19:28 KotCzarny: "android app comments" - pleease; now you have to be joking Apr 19 15:19:39 :) Apr 19 15:20:00 that's what google positioned in the first few places Apr 19 15:23:53 hail oscp Apr 19 15:24:32 O.o Apr 19 15:26:28 dont worry i still cannot make sence of it :P Apr 19 15:26:40 tell me more about it :P Apr 19 15:26:45 i ll learn eventually Apr 19 15:27:05 maybe update it and learn provided help in-program? Apr 19 15:27:31 na i dont know a thing and i dont want to ask moot questions Apr 19 15:27:49 yay hail documentation Apr 19 15:27:52 most obvious questions are answered there Apr 19 15:28:06 i current Apr 19 15:28:12 (ie. interface and function explained) Apr 19 15:28:31 ly use it as lightweight player Apr 19 15:29:09 i ll learn more and ask later Apr 19 15:29:18 thanx Apr 19 15:29:23 no worries Apr 19 15:30:46 he he it jus Apr 19 15:30:47 bbl Apr 19 15:30:47 t strange for me Apr 19 15:30:57 as was terminal Apr 19 15:31:24 and now its a nightmare not having it Apr 19 15:32:14 even i tend to use cmd on widows Apr 19 15:32:33 \windows Apr 19 17:41:58 supl.nokia.com sever certificate expired 3 days ago, anybody knows if Nokia still supports that service or it is MS now? Apr 19 17:44:20 hmm Apr 19 17:44:51 supl.nokia.com. 86400 IN CNAME nokia.supl.svc.ovi.com. Apr 19 17:44:59 who's responsible for ovi ? Apr 19 17:45:04 NFC Apr 19 17:45:11 opera? Apr 19 17:46:55 dunno, whois says nokia Apr 19 17:48:19 yes, but I think they handed ovi store to opera. might be wrong thoug Apr 19 18:03:52 oh thats why gps not getting lock early today Apr 19 19:01:16 I have noticed modRana being odd this week. Showing my course accuracy GPS as just off shore 200 miles away, instead of the usual ~2 miles away. This maybe the reason. Apr 19 19:01:56 maybe it was tracking your astral projection Apr 19 19:02:33 i am using google.com as the server, but i want to change, any advice? Apr 19 19:04:19 check if your provider hosts a supl server Apr 19 19:04:30 SFR (france) does for instance Apr 19 19:05:04 ahh, i don't use n900 as a phone Apr 19 19:05:07 too bad. Apr 19 19:05:18 but I'll check if i do someday Apr 19 19:06:18 buy prepaid card that is valid for a year? Apr 19 19:06:38 here (in .pl) there are such offers Apr 19 19:07:04 so ~3eur gets you one year of validatity without any additional costs Apr 19 19:07:20 only internet card? Apr 19 19:07:26 normal gsm Apr 19 19:07:36 you can buy internet packages if you need Apr 19 19:07:42 s/buy/add/ Apr 19 19:07:42 KotCzarny meant: you can add internet packages if you need Apr 19 19:08:14 or you can use existing credit for data too Apr 19 19:08:36 assuming you would use tiny bits Apr 19 19:09:02 cool Apr 19 19:09:25 and receiving calls/sms is free of course Apr 19 19:09:26 there are better offers in developing countries than in developed countries Apr 19 19:09:43 hehe Apr 19 19:09:57 its all about moneys and competition Apr 19 19:10:03 agree Apr 19 19:10:44 we are in EU but still pay is behind average Apr 19 19:11:04 so companies have to lower the prices or lose customers Apr 19 19:11:45 i was shocked when i found that in usa you pay for incoming calls/sms Apr 19 19:12:21 last time i received a cal was 1.5 years ago Apr 19 19:12:22 aha yes i can see that Apr 19 19:12:25 lol Apr 19 19:12:27 what Apr 19 19:12:29 ? Apr 19 19:12:38 for recieving? Apr 19 19:12:41 yes Apr 19 19:12:45 OMG Apr 19 19:12:47 its called 'air time' Apr 19 19:12:52 :) Apr 19 19:13:14 in syria even outcalls were free in the same company Apr 19 19:13:21 you can select different plans, where outgoing is more pricey, but receiving was free Apr 19 19:14:04 but you know, small print Apr 19 19:14:40 also, another LOL was 'unlimited' plans with fine printed caps Apr 19 19:15:02 s/was/were/ Apr 19 19:15:02 KotCzarny meant: also, another LOL were 'unlimited' plans with fine printed caps Apr 19 19:15:32 in armenia too! well, not always but most of the times its free. and so cheaper Apr 19 19:15:47 still, in terms of data plans, situation sucks here in .pl Apr 19 19:15:48 too! like syria i mean Apr 19 19:16:10 i mean, one can grab 2GB/month for ~3-5eur Apr 19 19:16:42 but it's too little to fully switch from the landlines Apr 19 19:17:42 i think we're paying like 30€ for ipad+1gb/day Apr 19 19:18:39 in AM i pay 20 cents a day ang get unlimited data for 512kb Apr 19 19:18:46 or Apr 19 19:18:55 let me count Apr 19 19:19:29 8euros a month for unlimited, 1MB/s speed Apr 19 19:19:44 but works only on phones (: Apr 19 19:21:50 KotCzarny: hah yes, it's not great in PL Apr 19 19:22:07 Ireland is good, I get fully "unlimited" included in 20 euro/mo Apr 19 19:22:30 scottc: speed? Apr 19 19:23:26 LTE Apr 19 19:23:46 nice, toobad its not for N900 :P Apr 19 19:23:52 hah, yeah :D Apr 19 19:23:58 works well on my Jolla though Apr 19 19:24:14 :( Apr 19 19:24:16 jolla Apr 19 19:24:20 i want too Apr 19 19:24:25 #nomoney Apr 19 19:24:30 heh Apr 19 19:24:39 I got my N900 more recently than my Jolla Apr 19 19:24:48 lol Apr 19 19:25:02 i bought my N900 like 3 weaks ago Apr 19 19:25:07 now I have 3 :P Apr 19 19:25:11 hah, mine was about 4 weeks ago Apr 19 19:25:12 :D Apr 19 19:25:18 They have a Jolla in Ireland :O Apr 19 19:25:21 ;) Apr 19 19:25:23 ahah Apr 19 19:25:47 if it didn't have a resistive touch screen, I think the N900 might be my primary phone Apr 19 19:25:58 What made you get a N900 after your Jolla? Apr 19 19:26:33 well I saw them selling quite cheaply online, I was visiting a friend in Poland and it was something like ~40 euro on allegro.pl Apr 19 19:26:43 and I wanted the hardware keyboard! Apr 19 19:26:49 :nod: Apr 19 19:26:53 Nokia N900 - 1/3 the price of a tohkbd ;) Apr 19 19:27:17 I couldn't be without my N900, it my primary everything mobile wise. Apr 19 19:28:25 it's a really fantastic phone Apr 19 19:28:51 it speaks volumes that it's still entirely usable even though it came out in what, 2009? Apr 19 19:29:13 I've gone through 3 Android phones since I got my first and that was in 2010 Apr 19 19:33:15 Yep, concorde of the smartphone IMO. Apr 19 19:33:30 it's hardly usable, really Apr 19 19:33:49 even the firefox 23 or whatever is quite ancient, by now Apr 19 19:36:44 how? I use it everyday. Apr 19 19:37:02 * Sicelo uses it daily too Apr 19 19:37:35 also no contact sync Apr 19 19:37:54 Yes, I agree some things are feeling dated but meh it WFM Apr 19 19:45:12 isnt ff23 freaking slow ? Apr 19 19:45:18 i'm one of those who never was interested in contact sync, so i don't miss it :) btw, it does sync with EAS ... my Outlook.com gets all of my N900 contacts Apr 19 19:51:15 touch only devices have a toy feel Apr 19 19:51:51 having keyboard and actual operating system you can tinker with is feeling like having real computer Apr 19 19:52:30 i dont need hundreds of cores if all i could do is gaming/watching Apr 19 19:52:59 i have puny 600mhz single core and im liking it because i have a media player that does exactly what i need Apr 19 19:53:06 and more Apr 19 19:53:07 :) Apr 19 19:54:27 never been a fan of contacts sync (because i have only few that i really need) Apr 19 19:56:15 and i have a phone that can make/receive phone calls, woo-hoo Apr 19 19:56:54 a phone that makes calls ? it cant be. Apr 19 19:57:05 shocking, isn't it? Apr 19 19:57:18 phones dont make calls, it's non-sense talk. Apr 19 19:57:34 there was a time when it wasn't Apr 19 20:14:22 I must say as a phone the N900 was pants, but it must be the mosted used app on my device other than OMP. Apr 19 20:15:15 seriously, phone makes phone calls Apr 19 20:15:29 and it does it well Apr 19 20:15:37 no drops, sound quality/mic are good Apr 19 20:21:40 KotCzarny: but missing a lot of features that mobiles had. Apr 19 20:21:51 phone has to make calls Apr 19 20:22:07 i dont care about shinies Apr 19 20:22:20 n900 does it Apr 19 20:22:26 I said "as a phone" not "the phone app" Apr 19 20:22:39 well, phone app is simple, but usable Apr 19 20:23:08 it's closed source and has bugs but yes usable Apr 19 20:23:44 tbh i've never spotted any bugs Apr 19 20:25:08 i wonder why no one reverse engineered it yet Apr 19 20:25:27 try saving/dialling long phone numbers. Apr 19 20:25:29 sixwheeledbeast^: hmm, what bugs has the phone app? besides that funky rotation, but it is more to h-d that to the application itself Apr 19 20:25:44 aor rather the lack of RAM Apr 19 20:25:46 *or Apr 19 20:27:47 freemangordon: Save a very long number and the UI fails to show contact name any more. Apr 19 20:29:12 I am sure there are others I found but fail to remember. Maybe b.m.o will remember Apr 19 20:30:39 Maybe we should consider removing dead Harmattan links from bmo front page... Apr 19 20:35:52 KotCzarny: bug10364 is very annoying Apr 19 20:36:04 as an example Apr 19 20:38:18 bug 10364 Apr 19 20:38:20 04Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/10364 Always displays the same number in call log for a multi-field contact Apr 19 20:45:00 M4rtinK: any clue who is supposed to support supl.nokia.com? as its certificate expired on 16th Apr 19 20:46:02 freemangordon: I guess the council needs to talk to Nokia about it ? Apr 19 20:48:24 M4rtinK: so you think it is still Nokia that is responsible for it? Apr 19 20:49:19 freemangordon: its their toplevel domain so they might at least know who is supposed to be running it Apr 19 20:49:33 yeah, makes sense Apr 19 20:51:25 nokia is now Microsoft? Apr 19 21:03:37 been for a while Apr 19 21:19:36 AFAIK company.nokia.com is the only site Nokia has. All others where transferred to M$. This maybe while nokia wait for .nokia TLD to be approved. Apr 19 21:20:24 .nokia TLD, nice Apr 19 21:20:35 i actually was waiting for .gnu (: Apr 19 21:24:00 .nokia, seriously ? :/ Apr 19 21:25:01 bencoh: yep ICANN are now doing Brand TLDs Apr 19 21:25:11 yeah, but stil ... Apr 19 21:25:19 but with some restrictions Apr 19 21:26:52 n1.nokia.com is the only other site I can see working *.nokia.com Apr 19 21:27:33 I never even heard of zlauncher til now. Apr 19 22:32:43 zlauncher ? Apr 20 00:45:59 hi there, I found that my nokia n900 can't work with sim-card. When I put the sim card in slot and put there battere uppon it. Tern-on the phone and see the icon with crossed sim-card nearly battery icon on the screen. Apr 20 00:46:56 I try turn-off and turn-on the phone, but this didn't help. Phone anyway doesn't see the sim-card. Apr 20 00:47:32 I never change firmware, just purchise from hands this phone. Apr 20 00:50:46 Try to put a piece of something between battery and SIM card, if the SIM card does not touch the contacts tightly enough? Apr 20 01:35:43 Oksana yea, that's works :) Apr 20 01:36:16 Good. Hoping it will not get worse with time. Apr 20 01:43:10 and how activate license for doc,excel and ppt? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 20 02:59:58 2015