**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 24 02:59:59 2015 Apr 24 05:30:59 and I still have trouble with sim-card. N900 sometimes offline from 3G celular network Apr 24 06:10:04 pentanol: try another card, also, you can try putting single piece of tape on the top side of the sim to push it more Apr 24 06:10:47 see if the sim contacts are worn out (with grooves or pits) and you can try request changing card from your operator Apr 24 06:41:05 KotCzarny on week ende I will try clean out all phone with screwer Apr 24 08:19:08 ceene: downloaded: 11.31GB | uploaded: 32.59GB | ratio: 2.228, not bad! finally done :) Apr 24 08:25:20 Who is in charge of the wiki? There are a lot of pages that I can't edit. Apr 24 08:25:50 (But some that I can so it seems like some conservative security setting.) Apr 24 10:04:52 moin :) Apr 24 10:05:00 moi Apr 24 10:20:54 mreow Apr 24 11:46:04 neal: i can help with the wiki if you ever reappear... Apr 24 11:57:24 neal: i can help with the wiki if you ever reappear... Apr 24 12:12:42 I was only missing for half an hour or so :) Apr 24 12:12:54 sixwheeledbeast^, Please help? Apr 24 12:13:02 What do you need from me? Apr 24 12:13:17 more like what do you need from me... Apr 24 12:13:29 There are lots of pages that I can't edit. Apr 24 12:13:43 For instance the installation instructions (I'll dig up a url if you want) Apr 24 12:14:06 also, lots of info is outdated on the main page Apr 24 12:14:10 e.g., upcoming events in 2012 :) Apr 24 12:14:28 neal, many pages are admin only due to spam Apr 24 12:14:47 ~flashing Apr 24 12:14:47 methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh Apr 24 12:14:57 will be one of them. Apr 24 12:17:20 I was thinking of https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware Apr 24 12:17:59 so what's the right way forward? Apr 24 12:18:02 neal: yes that page is admin only for good reason. Apr 24 12:18:06 swb: create wiki group called 'editors' ? Apr 24 12:18:28 and add everyone with positive karma to it? Apr 24 12:19:10 KotCzarny: our mediawiki is very old an need updating to do lots of things I have suggested in the past. Apr 24 12:20:00 who is sysadmin on this server ? Apr 24 12:21:31 neal: flashing page is locked because a) it's is the most popular page on WMO and gets hit by spam. b) very person that flashes there device thinks it should be worded differently so it was getting edited over and over causing confusion. Apr 24 12:21:59 then leave it as it is :) Apr 24 12:21:59 techstaff are sysadmin for all. Apr 24 12:22:04 I don't really care that much Apr 24 12:24:21 what about outdated info ? Apr 24 12:25:05 neal: I have to get back to work, if you have any suggestions or you feel some pages need to change. I will be available in ~4 hours, I can have a look at each one. However, I believe it was agreed changes to firmware page are best to go through council. Apr 24 12:25:32 Feel free to list pages you have issues with here and I will check them out later. Apr 24 12:26:27 that's so 1999 :) Apr 24 12:26:35 :-) Apr 24 12:26:51 some things are best done in old fashioned way Apr 24 12:27:11 offtopic and unrelated and nsfw: https://vimeo.com/25969993 Apr 24 12:27:22 KotCzarny, I find it hard to believe that editing a wiki is one of those Apr 24 12:27:28 It's part of a french animated short made by students for their university final Apr 24 12:27:58 neal: see 'spam' part Apr 24 12:35:33 KotCzarny: i don't know if i can watch 6 minutes of this Apr 24 12:36:37 mind you, they did it for their uni final Apr 24 12:36:54 so they might have to work on it day by day for a month or more Apr 24 12:58:39 hello Apr 24 12:58:46 can smdy help me Apr 24 12:59:07 who knows Apr 24 12:59:31 I have a strange bug - calendar widget not showing "today" events - only "next days" events Apr 24 12:59:47 this bug appeared after Tmeaemo9.1 or later update Apr 24 12:59:56 O.o Apr 24 13:00:18 yes o.O Apr 24 13:00:23 what version? Apr 24 13:00:38 now Tmaemo11 - latest thumb Apr 24 13:00:47 ahm, thumb Apr 24 13:00:48 but still have this bug Apr 24 13:00:55 cant help, im on stock fremantle Apr 24 13:01:01 oh Apr 24 13:01:24 sorry for disturb Apr 24 13:02:06 no worries, if there is a thumb thread on tmo try posting there, or wait for someone using/devving it Apr 24 13:02:54 thumb thread? Apr 24 13:03:23 well, thumb firmware/software Apr 24 13:03:26 there is such a thread. when did this new thumb come out al1981? Apr 24 13:03:58 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11 (11.04.2015) Apr 24 13:04:23 al1981: am on that version Apr 24 13:04:28 so stock widget? Apr 24 13:04:35 yes it is Apr 24 13:05:11 if I have evebt tommorow - i see it - but next day it is not showing as "today" event as it was before Apr 24 13:05:31 maybe some new option? Apr 24 13:05:43 settings - the same - nothing new Apr 24 13:07:14 maybe #maemo-ssu channel is better? Apr 24 13:08:30 ssu != thumb Apr 24 13:09:01 it is also appropriate channel :) Apr 24 13:09:15 but al1981 .. this works fine on mine Apr 24 13:11:55 hmm, wierd, Sicelo - is your event is hand made event or notification about birthday& Apr 24 13:12:15 'cause mine bug is about birtyhday noptifications Apr 24 13:13:09 i don't have birthdays today, but i did have some last week, and they worked fine Apr 24 13:13:36 born again? Apr 24 13:13:59 lol Apr 24 13:14:03 ok - seems I have to reinstall Apr 24 13:14:40 thx anyway Apr 24 13:14:45 ? Apr 24 15:59:54 I just got my N900 yesterday and... why can't all phone software be this nice? T_T Apr 24 16:06:37 you mean, simple? Apr 24 16:07:04 :) Apr 24 16:08:25 not even that it's simple Apr 24 16:08:40 but that it has so much functionality Apr 24 16:09:15 like, when I open the dialer, it asks me which of my accounts I want to use, whether SIP, XMPP, or PSTN Apr 24 16:09:21 *nothing else does that* and it's amazing Apr 24 16:12:15 ahm Apr 24 16:12:42 well, it was made with people networking in mind Apr 24 16:14:59 * ryukafalz nods Apr 24 16:15:17 which is what you'd think a communication device should be for Apr 24 16:15:33 Ok so was it decided what issue there was with the wiki? Apr 24 16:15:36 i bought it because i can compile/run linux apps tho Apr 24 16:15:54 s/bought/got/ Apr 24 16:15:56 KotCzarny meant: i got it because i can compile/run linux apps tho Apr 24 16:16:29 that's a big plus as well Apr 24 16:16:51 i still prefer it over any current device because of this Apr 24 16:16:54 (also nice bot heh) Apr 24 16:17:14 well, as far as Linux GUI apps go, yeah - Sailfish can run CLI apps just as well though Apr 24 16:17:56 and it's mostly just a matter of toolkit libraries not being ported to the platform Apr 24 16:20:23 well, n900 can run x apps Apr 24 16:20:30 which is much better Apr 24 16:21:32 btw. do you listen to music? Apr 24 16:34:05 yeah, some Apr 24 16:34:49 and it's nice that it can run X apps but at the same time I don't particularly like X11 :P Apr 24 16:35:03 wayland is very welcome Apr 24 16:46:54 ryukafalz: you can try my oscp player, it's built with server-client model in mind Apr 24 16:47:04 ie. you can run core on pc and control from n900 Apr 24 16:47:13 or run core on n900 and control from n900, or pc Apr 24 16:47:22 hmm Apr 24 16:47:28 I've been looking into groovebasin for that recently Apr 24 16:47:45 I used to run an MPD server for that Apr 24 16:49:04 yeah, but i wrote my app the way to have fewest of dependencies Apr 24 16:49:12 and maximum of features Apr 24 16:50:46 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 Apr 24 16:50:53 see here if you want to read more about it Apr 24 16:51:35 and if you like ncurses interface it has it too Apr 24 17:07:33 Is anyone interested in this StarTech mic/earphone splitter: Apr 24 17:12:47 I also have stock CA-75U video-out cable, USB cable, and AC power adapter. Apr 24 17:24:41 pretty expensive for a piece of metal/plastic **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 25 02:59:59 2015