**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 01 02:59:59 2015
May 01 06:50:23 <ds_shadof> anyone using yappari?
May 01 06:57:35 <freemangordon> ds_shadof: I guess, judging byt the thread on TMO http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94465
May 01 06:57:43 <freemangordon> *by
May 01 07:02:52 <ds_shadof> i'm getting frequent disconnects. Every few minutes
May 01 07:04:28 <freemangordon> ds_shadof: pester ceene, he is on the channel
May 01 07:05:14 <KotCzarny> i would say 'report the problem bug nicely to the nice developer spending time working on the app'
May 01 07:05:40 <KotCzarny> devs are people too!
May 01 07:05:41 <freemangordon> naaah, no niceness to the developers :D
May 01 07:06:04 <KotCzarny> they need nice feedback from the users
May 01 07:06:15 <KotCzarny> otherwise they may go 'meh, fsck it'
May 01 07:06:31 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: you know I don't really mean to "pester"
May 01 07:06:36 <KotCzarny> i know
May 01 07:06:42 <KotCzarny> kidding too
May 01 07:06:51 <KotCzarny> but niceness is still good
May 01 07:06:57 <freemangordon> oh, sure
May 01 07:44:19 <Sicelo> ds_shadof: seems to be related to network instabilities
May 01 07:47:02 <ds_shadof> Sicelo, every few minutes, in every location via different wifi networks?
May 01 07:48:15 <ds_shadof> with log message "There was an IO error: Connection closed by server."
May 01 07:49:01 <KotCzarny> are you using newest version?
May 01 07:49:55 <KotCzarny> there is yappari 2.0.10 in extras-devel
May 01 07:51:24 <ds_shadof> i'm using latest 2.0.10 5210
May 01 07:52:36 <antranigv> hay all, anyone good at porting console programs? (:
May 01 07:53:03 <KotCzarny> antranigv: console apps should work out-of-the-compile-box
May 01 07:53:42 <antranigv> KotCzarny: then I just have to compile it for the n900?
May 01 07:53:46 <antranigv> cross-compile?
May 01 07:54:01 <KotCzarny> use scratchbox
May 01 07:54:10 * antranigv needs a good RSS reader
May 01 07:54:27 <antranigv> I'm in love with this one http://newsbeuter.org/
May 01 07:54:28 <KotCzarny> then just copy binary (console apps are usually single binary)
May 01 07:54:46 <antranigv> cool, I'll let you know (:
May 01 07:56:20 <bencoh> if it's in debian it should be *really* easy to port
May 01 07:56:21 <KotCzarny> you can also check if debian-armel has already compiled it
May 01 07:56:25 <bencoh> apart from the deps hell
May 01 07:56:32 <bencoh> KotCzarny: debian-armel is hf ... isnt it ?
May 01 07:56:47 <KotCzarny> dont know, im regularly snatching stuff from there
May 01 07:56:51 <KotCzarny> and it works
May 01 07:56:57 <bencoh> oh, okay
May 01 07:57:06 <KotCzarny> there is debian-arm and debian-armel
May 01 07:57:41 <KotCzarny> sometimes i even snatch patches from there for armel related fixups
May 01 07:57:49 <antranigv> found it! https://packages.debian.org/jessie/newsbeuter
May 01 07:58:13 <KotCzarny> antranigv: watchh out, unpack the package, dont install it directly
May 01 07:58:39 <KotCzarny> and you may need OLD one (sid or lenny) because libc is old
May 01 07:58:56 <KotCzarny> so check backports if it doesnt work
May 01 07:58:57 <antranigv> oops. it's only jessie :-/
May 01 07:59:20 <KotCzarny> grab the source package and try to compile it in scratchbox
May 01 07:59:28 <antranigv> there is sid. ahh I'll compile it
May 01 07:59:45 <KotCzarny> you can also try running the binary, there is a slim chance it would work
May 01 07:59:53 <bencoh> antranigv: you do have scratchbox ?
May 01 08:00:12 <antranigv> just need to make sure it needs the deps for compiling, not for running.
May 01 08:00:22 <antranigv> bencoh: nop, I'll just install (:
May 01 08:00:30 <bencoh> meh :)
May 01 08:00:57 <KotCzarny> wasnt there a pre-prepared scratchbox image?
May 01 08:01:08 <bencoh> sure there is
May 01 08:01:10 <bencoh> ~sb
May 01 08:01:10 <infobot> from memory, scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB
May 01 08:01:37 <antranigv> thank you infobot
May 01 08:02:54 <princefakhan> give him something to eat instead.
May 01 08:05:03 <antranigv> it would be nice to have gentoo on n900. idk.
May 01 08:05:27 <princefakhan> btw, I have a similar problem with yappari.
May 01 08:07:01 <antranigv> ah, now I need to download this 1.3Gb file? (:
May 01 08:07:10 <Sicelo> antranigv: Luke-Jr is your man :P
May 01 08:07:23 <Sicelo> re: gentoo on N900
May 01 08:07:32 * antranigv loves #maemo community
May 01 08:08:12 <princefakhan> antranigv: what are you upto?
May 01 08:09:00 <antranigv> princefakhan: just wanna port... a compiler (: and an RSS reader. and alpine (email client)
May 01 08:09:46 <KotCzarny> antranigv: porting compiler is.. hard
May 01 08:10:18 <antranigv> the compiler that I need has been ported once, before, the old version.
May 01 08:10:20 <KotCzarny> i wonder, will current deb-chroot's gcc run without problems?
May 01 08:10:46 <antranigv> KotCzarny: nice idea, I can use the programs that I need in the chroot env.
May 01 08:10:50 <bencoh> antranigv: which compiler ?
May 01 08:11:01 <antranigv> bencoh: it's Oberon-2 compiler, named voc.
May 01 08:11:02 <KotCzarny> gcc 4.[789]
May 01 08:11:16 <antranigv> a maemo user created it btw.
May 01 08:11:34 <princefakhan> antranigv: looks like a lot.
May 01 08:11:47 <bencoh> hm, what's that ...
May 01 08:12:02 <antranigv> um, a programming language, it's pascal-ish
May 01 08:12:05 <princefakhan> I hope you don't get stuck in dependency hell.
May 01 08:12:09 <bencoh> .... mmmkay
May 01 08:12:10 <antranigv> like, the grandson of pascal
May 01 08:12:11 <bencoh> :)
May 01 08:12:26 <antranigv> well, now I have 3 Nokia N900s, :D
May 01 08:12:26 <bencoh> ergh, garbage collection
May 01 08:12:36 <bencoh> all three in good shape ?
May 01 08:12:45 <antranigv> one's USB port is dead
May 01 08:13:07 <antranigv> I'll fix it when (IF!) I go back to Armenia
May 01 08:13:11 <antranigv> or buy a new one.
May 01 08:13:17 <antranigv> new-used*
May 01 08:13:50 <princefakhan> I wanted to compile a program. I had everything. but the dependencies were not available on our beloved n900.
May 01 08:14:29 <princefakhan> and that was when I lost hope. that was something I was ogonna do for the first time. lol.
May 01 08:14:36 <antranigv> pardon me, what should I do after installing scratchbox? do we have a manual ?
May 01 08:14:56 <KotCzarny> antranigv: after sb install maemo sdk
May 01 08:15:07 <antranigv> cool. that 1.3Gb file
May 01 08:15:08 <KotCzarny> there is a page on maemo.org
May 01 08:15:30 <bencoh> antranigv: err .... you'll need libstfl as well
May 01 08:15:33 <bencoh> (for newsbeuter)
May 01 08:15:44 <antranigv> bencoh: is that... hell?
May 01 08:15:48 <bencoh> dunno
May 01 08:15:54 <bencoh> but it's not in maemo
May 01 08:15:59 <bencoh> neither in extras
May 01 08:16:08 <bencoh> so someone has to build it
May 01 08:16:09 <KotCzarny> antranigv: you will see, you can also compile it in sb
May 01 08:16:28 <KotCzarny> but luckily most apps in linux are just unpack/configure/make/make install
May 01 08:16:36 <antranigv> let's hope it'll be (: ah, I need to find a way to understand
May 01 08:16:39 <KotCzarny> assuming you are building only for yourself
May 01 08:16:40 <bencoh> there are wiki pages about sb, and the sb vm, and what to do with those
May 01 08:17:05 <KotCzarny> but then you will have to copy that lib too, also single file usually
May 01 08:17:20 <bencoh> ~google site:wiki.maemo.org scratchbox
May 01 08:17:29 <bencoh> ~search site:wiki.maemo.org scratchbox
May 01 08:17:35 <bencoh> infobot: geee!
May 01 08:17:55 <antranigv> :D
May 01 08:18:20 <bencoh> anyway, you get the idea :)
May 01 08:21:27 <princefakhan> btw, is there any guide soemwhere for compiling programs. specifically for maemo.
May 01 08:21:34 <KotCzarny> yes
May 01 08:21:43 <bencoh> https://wiki.maemo.org/Category:Scratchbox
May 01 08:23:41 <princefakhan> oh wow! I relly need to read. I musgt have opened that page about 5 times.
May 01 08:24:11 <KotCzarny> there was a page about adding hildon specific features
May 01 08:24:42 <princefakhan> :)
May 01 08:25:41 <princefakhan> I remember now. I havent been able to download sb and vm image ever since.
May 01 08:37:30 <princefakhan> oh wow! you guys are fast. new clock-ui. now let me open ham and have my afternoon meal.
May 01 09:50:52 <useretail> hi, have anyone backed up ovi maps?
May 01 09:51:19 <bencoh> are they in the ovi repo ?
May 01 09:52:14 <bencoh> hm, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95332
May 01 09:52:30 <useretail> have no idea.. i mean those from http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi.com/
May 01 11:15:08 <KotCzarny> useretail: most likely not
May 01 11:51:39 <krbtgt_> ohhh, ham, you're drunk
May 01 12:03:13 <krbtgt_> is there a modern OpenSSH in one of the repos? i'd like to use ed25519 keys/security patches
May 01 12:12:07 <KotCzarny> http://maemo.su/forum/
May 01 12:12:09 <KotCzarny> wow
May 01 12:14:18 <Vajb> freemangordon: i tried to update ur facebook sharing plugin, but it gave me an error. I guess that's because of missing nokia repo's
May 01 12:15:05 <jlbhshluekg> .
May 01 12:15:06 <jlbhshluekg> did usa intelligence supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
May 01 12:15:06 <jlbhshluekg> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosions with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
May 01 12:15:06 <jlbhshluekg> plz, send my qs to help limiting usa & israel aggression against others& may then lessen number of people killed in the middle east.
May 01 12:15:06 <jlbhshluekg> .did usa intelligence supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
May 01 12:28:31 <KotCzarny> as for ssh, google doesnt say about anything newer than 5.1 from 2009
May 01 13:59:32 <krbtgt_> hmmm, rdesktop claims it's 1.7 in the repo but when installed its 1.6
May 01 16:16:14 <Sicelo> freemangordon: fb sharing plugin not working for me now. tried to add/remove account, and no difference. pebkac?
May 01 16:36:03 <pigeons> do i have the wrong url or is there a temporary connectivity issue http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/
May 01 16:36:26 <pigeons> ah now working for me after not all morning, just as i type it, sorry
May 01 16:52:05 <princefakhan> I am not able to access irc log.
May 01 17:00:45 <ecc3g> /clear/clear
May 01 17:01:21 <ecc3g> /kill it with fire
May 01 17:02:54 <princefakhan> what did u see ecc3g
May 01 17:09:19 <ecc3g> nothing, was a joke for the typo
May 01 17:10:34 * princefakhan kills whatever it was with fire.
May 01 22:37:49 <freemangordon> Sicelo: what is "now" supposed to mean? did it work before?
May 01 22:38:08 <freemangordon> also, could you define "not working"?
May 01 22:47:09 <freemangordon> oh, it worked
May 01 22:47:14 <freemangordon> now I remember
May 01 22:47:38 <freemangordon> anyway, define "not working"
May 01 23:11:26 <Sicelo> freemangordon: transfer failure. and, cannot update albums
May 02 01:09:25 <ryukafalz> is there a quick way to jump to the bottom of a list? e.g. a chatroom in the chat client. it seems to jump all the way to the top sometimes, and then it's a lot of scrolling to get back to the bottom
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