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May 08 06:14:05 <L29Ah> wtf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list gets replaced and my changes are wasted
May 08 06:15:12 <L29Ah> i guess i need to screw it
May 08 06:30:16 <Oksana> Is there any /home/user/*/*/sources.list.d/ ?
May 08 06:31:21 <L29Ah> no
May 08 07:07:25 <L29Ah> https://zfh.so/hell/e7cd67567d0152ec37d5740a8fa93bd3d0c76939.jpg
May 08 07:07:43 <L29Ah> stock camera seems to be doing some postprocessing to get rid of the blue noise
May 08 07:11:29 <kerio> is anyone going to address the fact that that monitor is abysmally small
May 08 07:15:37 <L29Ah> 12" is a lot
May 08 07:15:51 <L29Ah> also i don't care much as i've got 15 workspaces
May 08 08:52:09 <zGrr> moin :)
May 08 09:01:59 <KotCzarny> oink
May 08 17:52:14 <Openbot> is this a good laptop to run linux and win8.1
May 08 17:52:27 <Openbot> compaq 2210b 
May 08 17:53:02 <krbtgt> just get a thinkpad
May 08 17:53:27 <Openbot> humm 
May 08 17:53:51 <Openbot> i am getting that cheap
May 08 17:53:58 <Humpelstilzchen> thinkpad.... just over expensive laptops since ~3 years
May 08 17:54:50 <Openbot> humpelstilzchen ??
May 08 17:55:55 <Openbot> well i did look for thinkpads but i didnt had much luck
May 08 17:56:12 <Openbot> some were too pricey
May 08 17:56:51 <Openbot> this compaq one currently catches my attention
May 08 17:56:53 <krbtgt> used thinkpads are cheap as hell
May 08 17:57:06 <krbtgt> i'd buy a quality thinkpad over some hp pos that'll break in a year
May 08 17:57:50 <Openbot> krbtgt cheap as hell =
May 08 17:58:37 <Openbot> also can this run win 8.i
May 08 17:58:45 <krbtgt> yes
May 08 17:58:54 <krbtgt> i'm running 8.1 on my X201, thats 5 years old
May 08 17:58:57 <Openbot> and i am still looking
May 08 17:59:06 <krbtgt> i've ran windows 8 on 8 year old computers too
May 08 17:59:08 <krbtgt> it runs fine
May 08 18:00:20 <Openbot> ah i mean are those nasty new requirements coverd by the compaq i mentioned
May 08 18:01:26 <Openbot> one thing i.e broadcom if i find it i ll just run for my life
May 08 18:02:24 <Openbot> krbtgt could you lookup a bit on compaq 2210b 
May 08 18:02:41 <Openbot> i did look 
May 08 18:02:42 <krbtgt> it has a core2
May 08 18:02:46 <krbtgt> it supports NX/SSE2
May 08 18:03:28 <Openbot> win 8.1 requires sse3 na
May 08 18:03:55 <Openbot> krbtgt_ 
May 08 18:04:01 <Openbot> krbtgt
May 08 18:04:12 <krbtgt> SSE2 and NX
May 08 18:04:31 <krbtgt> and don't ping people ecessively
May 08 18:05:20 <Openbot> i didnt ping anybody nor do i still get pinging properly
May 08 18:20:30 <Openbot> thanx
May 08 18:24:59 <Openbot> well i ll look for thinkpad and if i dont find still in  a couple of days should i get this insted i.e is it goog enough to use considering my previous was an atom i.e lenovo s10-2 and was ok with it 
May 08 18:25:18 <Openbot> krbtgt_ 
May 08 18:25:30 <Openbot> meh
May 08 18:25:35 <Openbot> krbtgt
May 08 18:26:04 <krbtgt> see, that's pinging!
May 08 18:28:21 <Openbot> aha highlighting on irc you mean
May 08 18:28:30 <Openbot> sorry for that
May 08 18:31:09 <Openbot> bye
May 08 18:44:45 <KotCzarny> thinkpad (x and t series) > everything
May 08 18:45:31 <KotCzarny> lenovo isnt necessarily thinkpads
May 08 19:07:56 <KotCzarny> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer
May 08 19:08:10 <KotCzarny> and the neo900 has to cost few hundreds?
May 08 19:10:50 <Humpelstilzchen> allwinner..
May 08 19:11:48 <KotCzarny> 9$ > 900$
May 08 19:12:07 <Wizzup> Seem to have completely different goals.
May 08 19:12:17 <Wizzup> The neo900 is the n900, with hw upgrade, but compatible.
May 08 19:12:23 <KotCzarny> That's why both C.H.I.P. and PocketC.H.I.P. are both TOTALLY OPEN SOURCE
May 08 19:12:34 <KotCzarny> i bet you could hack maemo on it
May 08 19:12:46 <Wizzup> that doesn't make it compatible, at all
May 08 19:12:48 <Humpelstilzchen> KotCzarny: its allwinner..they tell you what open source is..
May 08 19:12:52 <Wizzup> and why are you screaming?
May 08 19:13:03 <KotCzarny> im copypasting text from the page
May 08 19:13:08 <Humpelstilzchen> KotCzarny: also you cou make the same argument with rpi...
May 08 19:13:17 <KotCzarny> rpi isnt 9$
May 08 19:13:44 <Humpelstilzchen> same price region
May 08 19:14:11 <KotCzarny> We've worked very closely with the amazing team at Allwinner Technology to insure that all the necessary documentation and source code for the System on Chip and Power Management Chips used in C.H.I.P. will be available for the community to use and learn from.
May 08 19:14:26 <Wizzup> Allwinner blatantly violates the gpl
May 08 19:14:27 <Wizzup> still
May 08 19:14:29 <Humpelstilzchen> yeah right...as if allwiner opens their documents
May 08 19:14:33 <Wizzup> and never really helped/worked with upstream support
May 08 19:14:40 <KotCzarny> we will see
May 08 19:14:45 <KotCzarny> its due release in september
May 08 19:14:46 <Wizzup> no, this is the sitrep
May 08 19:16:31 <Humpelstilzchen> KotCzarny: you back that one?
May 08 19:16:41 <KotCzarny> not yet, just found out about it
May 08 19:17:27 <KotCzarny> and the wifi supports ap mode
May 08 19:18:09 <Wizzup> I just don't see the need to take a stab at neo900
May 08 19:18:15 <Wizzup> they have different goals and are doing a good job so far
May 08 19:18:28 <Wizzup> I'm very much awaiting my neo900
May 08 19:18:54 <Wizzup> if a next batch comes they might be cheaper
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