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May 11 09:59:43 <zGrr> moin :)
May 11 09:59:48 <KotCzarny> oink
May 11 10:00:00 <zGrr> KotCzarny:  hiya :)
May 11 10:00:35 <KotCzarny> have you tried oscp yet?
May 11 10:00:41 <zGrr> nope
May 11 10:00:49 <zGrr> I don't have a time
May 11 10:00:52 <zGrr> at all
May 11 10:00:53 <KotCzarny> kk
May 11 10:01:17 <KotCzarny> though i see some inconsistency in that 
May 11 10:01:30 <zGrr>  yes
May 11 10:01:37 <zGrr> so do I
May 11 10:03:34 <KotCzarny> :)
May 11 10:04:29 <zGrr> I cannot sleep at night because there is always something important, I should have done and i didn't. 
May 11 10:08:24 <KotCzarny> have you tried prioritizing tasks?
May 11 10:08:58 <zGrr> Yes
May 11 10:09:08 <zGrr> It helps.
May 11 10:10:03 <zGrr> ... but it cannot solve the problem of being constantly flooded with unmanageable workload. 
May 11 10:10:34 <L29Ah> i wonder how one can be flooded with unmanageable workload
May 11 10:10:37 <L29Ah> are you a slave?
May 11 10:12:07 <L29Ah> i wonder if it's possible to make navit work faster on n900
May 11 10:12:13 <L29Ah> it's about 1fps there
May 11 10:12:18 <KotCzarny> zgrr: do what you have to do properly, queue can wait
May 11 10:15:25 <KotCzarny> and if someone says 'you are too slow' just say its either quick or proper
May 11 10:28:12 <zGrr> they don't say that
May 11 10:28:28 <KotCzarny> then why the worries?
May 11 10:30:08 <zGrr> because always somewhere something can fail and it can be later attributed to negligence. my negligence or one of my mates. 
May 11 10:31:46 <KotCzarny> thats why you have not to hurry
May 11 10:32:54 <zGrr> i'm not in a hurry, i'm just being anxious. 
May 11 10:35:32 <KotCzarny> if you do your work right, you shouldnt
May 11 10:35:39 <KotCzarny> (be anxious)
May 11 10:37:22 <zGrr> i don't do my work right, that's the problem.
May 11 10:37:48 <zGrr> i don't even think it is possible in that environment. 
May 11 10:38:34 <KotCzarny> if its not possible, then you ARE doing it right
May 11 10:38:44 <zGrr> yes
May 11 10:38:56 <zGrr> until something important breaks down.
May 11 10:40:15 <KotCzarny> report whatever needs fixing to your superior, if they dont change anything its not your responsibility
May 11 10:40:58 <zGrr> i don't feel competent enough to fix my superior. 
May 11 10:41:36 <KotCzarny> make it documented in some way, ie. email
May 11 10:43:09 <zGrr> it doesn't matter. 
May 11 10:44:01 <zGrr> have you ever heard of six phases of a big project? 
May 11 10:44:57 <KotCzarny> hazy
May 11 10:45:18 <zGrr> http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/six_phases_of_a_project_enthusiasm_disillusionment_panic/
May 11 10:45:37 <KotCzarny> ah, yes
May 11 10:46:29 <KotCzarny> but if you are prepared for lack of gratitude, why care?
May 11 10:46:31 <zGrr> i can tell you, it is true.
May 11 10:47:12 <KotCzarny> then i wouldnt care
May 11 10:47:18 <KotCzarny> just do your work and dont worry
May 11 10:47:32 <KotCzarny> if they gonna punish innocents, f*ck it
May 11 10:48:25 <zGrr> I don't worry.
May 11 10:48:31 <zGrr> I'm just being anxious.
May 11 10:48:41 <KotCzarny> that's what i meant
May 11 10:48:47 <zGrr> i don't even care. 
May 11 10:48:51 <zGrr> but it doesn't help.
May 11 10:49:14 <KotCzarny> say f*ck it, do what you have to do, but dont give a flying f*ck of the outcome
May 11 10:50:19 <L29Ah> b-but ppl do stuff for the outcome
May 11 10:50:47 <KotCzarny> yes, but if he does the stuff the best he can, and still going to be punished
May 11 10:50:53 <KotCzarny> why worry
May 11 10:51:05 <KotCzarny> remember, your physical health suffers from stress
May 11 10:51:26 <KotCzarny> project ends, you dont want to suffer from someones dickity
May 11 10:54:09 <L29Ah> oh then he'd better work on maemo stuff (:
May 11 10:54:25 <KotCzarny> for unstressing, yes
May 11 10:54:33 <L29Ah> project ends, punishment received, n900 works better, PROFIT
May 11 10:56:27 <zGrr> :)
May 11 13:16:58 <L29Ah> https://zfh.so/hell/3a4ea518fd7ec9ba354125b302ba5e1f7eef8f7a.jpg the battery block doubles as a kickstand :]
May 11 16:09:58 <scottc> woo new battery is here
May 11 16:13:08 <KotCzarny> will it blend?
May 11 16:35:19 <scottc> KotCzarny: give me your address and i will send you the swollen battery for blending
May 11 16:36:11 <princefakhan> the local store fvcked my n900 board. :(
May 11 16:37:27 <princefakhan> I think the usb socket was loose. so I asked him to fix it.
May 11 16:38:19 <princefakhan> he did. but the next day. I was charging my phone and when I plugged out the usb cable, the socket came out of the board.
May 11 16:39:09 <princefakhan> I again went to him. and he put another one. says he had to change some "print" due to the soldering.
May 11 16:39:21 <princefakhan> now It ain't charging.
May 11 16:39:53 <princefakhan> now I'm using BL-4U with the help of tapes.
May 11 16:40:36 <KotCzarny> O.o
May 11 16:40:38 <L29Ah> relax, n900's usb is broken by design (:
May 11 16:41:08 <KotCzarny> princefakhan: you should get a refund or have him repair it until it works
May 11 16:41:27 <KotCzarny> scottc: im not that curious,dont send me that bomb
May 11 16:41:53 <L29Ah> scottc: plug it into a power outlet
May 11 16:42:10 <princefakhan> dunno about the refund. but I am not going to that shop again in this life.
May 11 16:42:48 <scottc> L29Ah: currently charging on my laptop, i'll use a proper outlet once i'm out of work!
May 11 16:43:55 <princefakhan> I'm gonna get a new phone anyway now. they are so cheap these days.
May 11 16:44:03 <KotCzarny> true that
May 11 16:44:14 <KotCzarny> but still, you shouldn't let it slide
May 11 16:44:22 <princefakhan> and I'm gonna use my N900 by charging the battery some other way.
May 11 16:44:44 <princefakhan> no way am I gonna leave this beast.
May 11 16:46:21 <princefakhan> on the plus side. I now have two batteries to use my phone. so discharge the one while charginging the other.
May 11 16:46:23 <princefakhan> win win
May 11 16:50:24 <princefakhan> and here I was wondering my phone was discharging so fast cuz of XChat.
May 11 16:50:34 <princefakhan> it was superclocked.
May 11 16:52:32 <KotCzarny> :)
May 11 17:45:09 <L29Ah> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokia-N-Series-N900-32GB-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-/161698056238?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a5f4882e n900 motherboard
May 11 17:45:38 <L29Ah> reinforce the usb connector and you're good
May 11 17:45:42 <L29Ah> princefakhan:
May 11 17:46:10 <Vajb> princefakhan: maybe irssi consumes less battery...
May 11 17:56:58 <Sicelo> i doubt battery would be related to a specific IRC client tbh
May 11 17:58:27 <princefakhan> it was not the IRC client.
May 11 17:58:28 <KotCzarny> drawing widgets and refreshing takes cpu
May 11 17:58:55 <princefakhan> I have my phone by def running at 1150 mhz.
May 11 17:59:05 <bencoh> hm ?
May 11 17:59:16 <princefakhan> so everytime the phone restarts. you know the drill.
May 11 17:59:22 <bencoh> you mean at max 1150 with the ondemand governor ?
May 11 18:01:23 <princefakhan> yepp
May 11 18:01:31 <princefakhan> is that bad.
May 11 18:02:16 <bencoh> ondemand will jump straight from base to max
May 11 18:02:52 <princefakhan> I'm not gonna have my device overclocked all the time now.
May 11 18:02:53 <KotCzarny> but if app is not doing busywait, its more power effective
May 11 18:03:06 <princefakhan> I just realised how fast the juice ran out.
May 11 18:03:13 <L29Ah> it shouldn't matter w/ ondemand afaiu
May 11 18:03:17 <bencoh> KotCzarny: yeah
May 11 18:08:49 <Vajb> well powerhungry or not im still recommending irssi. After getting used to it there is no coming back ;)
May 11 18:16:14 <princefakhan> so since I'm not using N900 as my telephony device, so no SIM in the device. Everytime I restart the phone I have to set the time right.
May 11 18:16:56 <stryngs> So set it manually princefakhan 
May 11 18:16:59 <stryngs> Then it wont ask u again
May 11 18:17:01 <princefakhan> I was thinking, since this is an internet Tablet the time should auto-update from some online server
May 11 18:17:09 <KotCzarny> princefakhan: grab ntpdate util
May 11 18:17:37 <KotCzarny> and add ntpdate pool.ntp.org to your internet-on scripts
May 11 18:17:55 <L29Ah> where do i put my internet-on script in maemo?
May 11 18:18:09 <KotCzarny> probably in if-up 
May 11 18:18:26 <KotCzarny> but never digged there
May 11 18:19:26 <princefakhan> I was thinking maybe it gets implemented in CSSU. that'd be cool.
May 11 18:20:00 <princefakhan> btw, why is there a solution available to every idea/problem I have. :P
May 11 18:21:05 <KotCzarny> because linux is quite mature
May 11 18:21:13 <KotCzarny> and used by many people with different needs
May 11 18:21:25 <KotCzarny> so in effect there are tools for those needs
May 11 18:21:32 <Wizzup> stryngs: it will ask you if the battery is depleted
May 11 18:23:10 <L29Ah> btw if the small internal clock capacitor is alive, one can even swap batteries during s2ram
May 11 18:24:03 <Wizzup> mine is not
May 11 18:24:04 <Wizzup> :)
May 11 18:24:07 <princefakhan> KotCzarny: ikr
May 11 20:04:52 <scottc> yay, new battery fixed the n900
May 11 20:05:10 <scottc> and not a moment too soon since my jolla screen has cracked :(
May 11 20:05:53 <princefakhan> scottc: what had happened to your n900
May 11 20:06:02 <princefakhan> and :(
May 11 20:06:47 <scottc> princefakhan: it just wouldn't turn on one day after the battery died while i was out, so i bought a dodgy replacement from ebay
May 11 20:06:52 <scottc> seems to have done the job
May 11 20:07:19 <princefakhan> oh!
May 11 20:07:28 <princefakhan> :)
May 11 20:07:55 <scottc> they claimed it was an "original battery", they lied >:(
May 11 20:08:02 <princefakhan> haha.
May 11 20:08:22 <scottc> the sticke rlooks like a photocopy and doesn't have "nokia" written on it
May 11 20:08:54 <princefakhan> I don't think you can find new original nokia batteries for these phones.
May 11 20:09:03 <princefakhan> better buy the better ones.
May 11 20:09:35 <princefakhan> tho, how much did the battery cost
May 11 20:09:37 <scottc> you can surely get batteries for the newer lumias, some of which are the same model number
May 11 20:09:47 <scottc> it was like 5 euro or so
May 11 20:10:02 <princefakhan> BL-5J is still alive. impressive.
May 11 20:10:28 <scottc> yep!
May 11 20:10:41 <KotCzarny> :)
May 11 20:10:42 <princefakhan> cheap enough.
May 11 20:11:10 <KotCzarny> scottc: better watch out, at this rate you will run out of electrotoys
May 11 20:11:25 <scottc> :(
May 11 20:11:35 <scottc> i have a Pebble Steel on the way too
May 11 20:11:45 <scottc> i wonder if there is N900 support >:)
May 11 20:12:11 <princefakhan> isn't Pebble Stell being given to the ones who have pledged a lot.
May 11 20:12:24 <princefakhan> My bro has kickstarted too.
May 11 20:12:30 <scottc> no idea! I got it on ebay :P
May 11 20:12:40 <princefakhan> he is getting the top model.
May 11 20:12:48 <scottc> is that the Pebble Time?
May 11 20:12:48 <princefakhan> oh!
May 11 20:12:50 <scottc> with colour e-ink
May 11 20:13:19 <princefakhan> there is many new-ish things in that. I just don't remember the name.
May 11 20:13:21 <princefakhan> lol
May 11 20:13:36 <scottc> hehe
May 11 20:14:00 <princefakhan> anyway. I may be able to use it with my phone. lol!
May 11 20:14:37 <princefakhan> http://pebbledev.org/wiki/Libpebble
May 11 20:17:00 <scottc> nice
May 11 20:17:08 <KotCzarny> i would love eink screen in n900
May 11 20:17:32 <princefakhan> what is eink?
May 11 20:17:48 <KotCzarny> in short the screen doesnt need backlight
May 11 20:17:59 <KotCzarny> kind of paper like display
May 11 20:18:22 <princefakhan> oh! :D
May 11 20:18:33 <KotCzarny> there better and worse eink types
May 11 20:19:54 <princefakhan> hmmm
May 11 20:20:22 <KotCzarny> s/there/there are/
May 11 20:20:22 <infobot> KotCzarny meant: there are better and worse eink types
May 11 21:33:10 <Sicelo> when playing a song via oscp, and using FM Transmitter, does the RDS text 'follow' the song details?
May 11 21:47:04 <KotCzarny> dont know, where does fm transmitter grabs the info from?
May 11 21:47:25 <KotCzarny> and does stock player update rds text?
May 11 22:29:36 <bencoh> KotCzarny: can you play FM with stock player ?
May 11 22:35:29 <KotCzarny> bencoh, you can install fm transmitter app that will output to transmitter instead of speakers
May 11 22:36:24 <bencoh> oh, transmitter, not receiver ... nevermind
May 11 22:36:55 <KotCzarny> as for receiver, interesting idea, wonder how the audio is routed
May 11 23:46:55 <Oksana> Survey: ask aptitude to reinstall microb-eal , are you hit by downloads.maemo.nokia.com not being available? I am, and I do not get the reason - microb-eal is available through maemo.org, right?
May 11 23:50:42 <bencoh> Oksana: no
May 11 23:50:57 <bencoh> at least apt-cache policy doesnt say so here
May 11 23:51:12 <bencoh> looks like it comes straight from d.m.n.c with no alternative from r.m.o
May 11 23:51:31 <bencoh> (unless there is a r.m.o repository I've not heard about)
May 11 23:52:49 <Oksana> Well... I see this direct link... http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/m/microb-eal/microb-eal_2.9.5-1.23+0m5_armel.deb
May 11 23:53:00 <bencoh> http://maemo.org/packages/view/microb-eal/ says it's in SDK
May 11 23:53:17 <Oksana> So I assume that there is an alternative at maemo.org . And, d.m.n.c. do not work for me.
May 11 23:53:52 <bencoh> Oksana: I guess you did read the threads about d.m.n.c being down and the mirrors ? ;)
May 11 23:54:19 * Oksana is trying to add d.m.n.c. mirror to repositories list - thank you :-) - but App Manager is slooow...
May 11 23:54:57 <bencoh> I'd either use vim/apt-get or the CSSU-testing ham
May 11 23:55:00 <bencoh> ~speedyham
May 11 23:55:00 <infobot> from memory, speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb
May 11 23:55:09 * Oksana wonders if it is tracker dragging whole system down, or something else...
May 11 23:57:02 <Oksana> I am using CSSU-Testing. Does it mean I already have speedyham? Or are there special things-to-do involved?
May 11 23:57:37 * Oksana finds that links above sounds like CSSU-Devel...
May 11 23:58:23 <bencoh> I think it has been merged in cssu-testing
May 11 23:59:00 <bencoh> hildon-application-manager 	
May 11 23:59:01 <bencoh> Performance fixes 
May 11 23:59:04 <bencoh> in Tmaemo10
May 11 23:59:15 <bencoh> havent checked the dist file though
May 12 00:03:07 * Oksana is going to check whether I have Tmaemo 9 or Tmaemo10 ....
May 12 00:16:48 <Oksana> Ok, getting microb-eal now... Then will be doing update-upgrade...
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