**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 18 02:59:59 2015
May 18 05:30:47 <princefakhan> uhm! so my battery meter only shows 50% or 3%
May 18 05:31:02 <princefakhan> looks like it needs callibrating.
May 18 05:31:42 <princefakhan> but I'm not sure that if I charge the battery on another device then pop it in N900, it would work
May 18 06:15:33 <Oksana> No, battery meter would not calibrate this way, I think...
May 18 06:16:38 <princefakhan> :(
May 18 09:31:24 <ceene> Sicelo: there are like 10 different index.html files for the voice navigation hack for ovi
May 18 09:31:30 <ceene> would you know which is the latest/better?
May 18 09:31:43 <ceene> the wiki and first post aren't very clarifying
May 18 09:31:49 <ceene> and they contradict each other
May 18 09:32:12 <princefakhan> ceene: the reason I didn't apply the ovi maps hacks
May 18 09:32:18 <ceene> hehe
May 18 09:32:27 <princefakhan> :)
May 18 09:32:29 <ceene> i assume that the latest are those attached on first post
May 18 09:32:33 <ceene> but i'm not quite sure
May 18 09:32:54 <princefakhan> there must be a time stamp on each post
May 18 09:32:59 <princefakhan> check that
May 18 09:33:22 * princefakhan wonders why this didn't struck him earliear
May 18 09:33:34 <ceene> haha
May 18 09:34:02 <ceene> i'm gonna try with attached files on first post
May 18 09:34:04 <princefakhan> :D
May 18 09:34:22 <princefakhan> mhmm. share your exp
May 18 09:35:08 <princefakhan> btw, can anyone tell me how to calibrate my battery if the usb is broken
May 18 09:35:44 <ceene> fixing your usb?
May 18 09:36:09 <princefakhan> errr. I guess it is beyond my skills now.
May 18 09:36:28 <princefakhan> I gave it to a shop. and he fvcked it even more.
May 18 09:36:52 <ceene> :/
May 18 09:37:11 <princefakhan> when my phone is totally discharged. and I plug the usb cable. it does the usual.
May 18 09:37:28 <ceene> my n900 was labeled as 'refurbished', and i'm quite sure they had the usb repaired, because i haven't had any problem
May 18 09:37:31 <ceene> if you are able to open it
May 18 09:37:37 <ceene> soldering it should be easy
May 18 09:37:38 <princefakhan> stays orange for some time (pre-charging the battery or something)
May 18 09:37:44 <ceene> it's just two spots
May 18 09:38:00 <princefakhan> then 5-6 orange flashes and the whole process again
May 18 09:38:25 <ceene> like it doesn't make a good contact, is it?
May 18 09:38:37 <princefakhan> I actually gave it for soldering.
May 18 09:39:05 <princefakhan> then when I got home. connected it to the charger. while unplugging the whole usb socket came apart.
May 18 09:39:12 <princefakhan> and then went again and this.
May 18 09:39:21 <ceene> :s
May 18 09:39:21 <princefakhan> ceene: something like that.
May 18 09:40:51 <princefakhan> he replaced the circuit I guess
May 18 09:41:04 <ceene> it's a pity
May 18 09:41:09 <princefakhan> is the usb circuit replaceable
May 18 09:41:13 <ceene> nokia should have used a through hole connector
May 18 09:41:20 <ceene> the only problem seems to be the connector itself
May 18 09:41:45 <ceene> (or a better soldering station and solder masks...)
May 18 09:42:06 <princefakhan> yeah. it looks like the usb socket has been just put there
May 18 09:43:11 <ceene> in my experience it's pretty difficult to fuck up a manual solder for a usb connector
May 18 09:43:17 <ceene> the thing you have to be most wary about
May 18 09:43:28 <ceene> is not touching any plastic parts with the iron solder 
May 18 09:43:42 <ceene> i've burned several things that way
May 18 09:43:47 <ceene> but the circuit always survives :)
May 18 09:43:53 <princefakhan> haha
May 18 09:44:16 <princefakhan> I never used as soldering machine.
May 18 09:44:29 <princefakhan> the reason I went to the shop actually.
May 18 09:44:52 <ceene> they screwed up big time
May 18 09:44:52 <princefakhan> Now my bro says, u pretty much fvcked up a Limited Edition phone
May 18 09:45:01 <ceene> yep
May 18 09:45:06 <ceene> it's not that hard
May 18 09:45:28 <ceene> i understand you not wanting to try by yourself
May 18 09:45:33 <ceene> but in a shop that supposedly does it...
May 18 09:46:21 <princefakhan> I probably gave it to an unskilled guy.
May 18 09:46:41 <bencoh> anyway, is it in a worse state than before ?
May 18 09:46:56 <princefakhan> nothing bad except the usb.
May 18 09:47:10 <princefakhan> so I charge the battery on another phone.
May 18 09:47:20 <bencoh> but nothing beyond recovery ?
May 18 09:47:34 <princefakhan> and use an e72 for cellular use
May 18 09:47:55 <princefakhan> bencoh: yeah. I believe the usb can still be fixed.
May 18 09:47:57 <joga> fwiw, in my opinion soldering the usb is *not* that simple
May 18 09:48:01 <joga> it's TINY
May 18 09:48:01 <princefakhan> just I'm too afraid
May 18 09:48:04 <joga> and cramped
May 18 09:48:06 <bencoh> why ? is your modem/simtray broken as well ?
May 18 09:48:29 <princefakhan> no. it works.
May 18 09:49:03 <princefakhan> but since there is no usb. this device has to stay off till the battery charges
May 18 09:49:49 <bencoh> you can use a set of two batteries until you fix usb
May 18 09:50:44 <princefakhan> I am actually using two batteries. its not bl-5j. and bigger than bl-5j
May 18 09:50:57 <princefakhan> this one is bl-4u
May 18 09:52:27 <bencoh> does it fit ?
May 18 09:54:24 <princefakhan> nah! it is bigger in size.
May 18 09:54:56 <princefakhan> it extends .5 inches
May 18 09:55:15 <princefakhan> so I have hold the device tilted.
May 18 09:55:32 <princefakhan> and the cover can't fit in.
May 18 09:55:34 <princefakhan> :D
May 18 11:01:48 <KotCzarny> buy a bigger cover!
May 18 11:01:49 <KotCzarny> ;)
May 18 11:02:25 <princefakhan> well I want the battery callibrated for now.
May 18 11:04:23 <KotCzarny> i think it needs to be discharged/charged in the device
May 18 11:04:53 <princefakhan> and that I can't do. unless my usb gets fixed
May 18 11:05:37 <KotCzarny> find a skilled service man
May 18 11:05:47 <KotCzarny> he doesnt need to repair phones specifically
May 18 11:05:59 <KotCzarny> you can go to tv/computer/electronics repair shop
May 18 11:06:09 <KotCzarny> because all that's needed is 'simple' soldering
May 18 11:06:27 <KotCzarny> ask what tools they have
May 18 11:06:33 <KotCzarny> and if it's easy
May 18 11:07:21 <princefakhan> it is soldered now. tho I'm not sure. cuz I couldn't open it. as I believe he changed the screws too.
May 18 11:07:27 <KotCzarny> you can print the phone motherboard with usb area enlarged
May 18 11:07:54 <KotCzarny> lol
May 18 11:08:13 <KotCzarny> i wonder if he broke screw threads too
May 18 11:08:27 <KotCzarny> or something else inside
May 18 11:09:28 <princefakhan> I do. I wanted to be sure.
May 18 11:09:32 <princefakhan> but I can't.
May 18 11:09:43 <princefakhan> atleast with the tools I have at home.
May 18 11:10:51 <princefakhan> btw, where are the phone schematics.
May 18 11:11:19 <princefakhan> i remember seeing it once on some site.
May 18 11:12:31 <bencoh> service manuals
May 18 11:13:10 <princefakhan> ah! I found it.
May 18 11:13:59 <princefakhan> why ae there two diff versions
May 18 12:28:50 <princefakhan> how do I force MicroB to open the pc version of a website
May 18 16:39:24 <sixwheeledbeast> princefakhan: depends on the website. I find MicroB prefers the Full/PC version on most sites.
May 18 16:40:50 <princefakhan> I was able to change the useragent
May 18 16:40:58 <princefakhan> from about:config
May 18 16:41:51 <sixwheeledbeast> thats one option if the site uses your user agent to detect that.
May 18 16:42:02 <princefakhan> :)
May 18 16:43:11 <sixwheeledbeast> You may find disabling javascript will work there to.
May 18 16:43:29 <princefakhan> I didn't try that.
May 18 16:43:44 <bencoh> and sometimes it wont work at all :))
May 18 16:43:54 <bencoh> (or faster ... your mileage may vary)
May 18 16:44:01 <princefakhan> anyway, I still couldn't achieve what I really wanted
May 18 16:44:09 <sixwheeledbeast> If the site is using a js search on your user agent this would work but may break other js on the site.
May 18 16:44:19 <bencoh> yeah :)
May 18 16:44:50 <princefakhan> hmmm. so better keep it on then.
May 18 16:44:57 <sixwheeledbeast> I am no web designer but I don't like that method of detecting mobile users.
May 18 16:45:16 <sixwheeledbeast> princefakhan: it depends on the site and the code behind it.
May 18 16:45:37 <sixwheeledbeast> html5 WTF!
May 18 16:45:40 <princefakhan> oh! okay.
May 18 16:46:11 <princefakhan> whatever wrongs did html5 did?
May 18 16:47:39 <sixwheeledbeast> sorry, that sounded wrong! ;) I was looking for something on a site...
May 18 16:47:51 <princefakhan> oh!
May 18 16:48:24 <sixwheeledbeast> viewport is a method of detecting mobile I have used.
May 18 16:48:43 <sixwheeledbeast> So users screen size in pixels. 
May 18 16:49:04 <sixwheeledbeast> You can have a mobile/tablet and full css files then.
May 18 16:49:48 <princefakhan> you mean detecting phones via their resolution
May 18 16:49:52 <sixwheeledbeast> Instead of switching between pages for different user agents.
May 18 16:50:44 <princefakhan> :)
May 18 16:51:10 <sixwheeledbeast> pixels across the width of the screen. 
May 18 16:51:35 <sixwheeledbeast> so "max-device-width: 480px" for example
May 18 16:53:07 <princefakhan> oh!
May 18 16:53:30 <princefakhan> I guess my brother made the family's company page just like tha
May 18 16:53:33 <princefakhan> *that
May 18 16:54:08 <sixwheeledbeast> the media="handheld" tag was a good idea, however, in there wisdom iOS and Andriod ignore them purposely...
May 18 16:54:41 <princefakhan> is there a reason?
May 18 16:56:18 <sixwheeledbeast> users may miss content is there argument 
May 18 16:56:44 <princefakhan> oh!
May 18 16:57:09 <sixwheeledbeast> princefakhan: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/mobile/mobifying/
May 18 16:57:10 <princefakhan> but isn't the useragent method doing the same thing
May 18 16:59:57 <princefakhan> I'm sure that is what my brother did.
May 18 17:33:28 <ecc3g> strange.  anyone happen to get their n900 into a state where it won't charge when plugged into a wall charger, but works just fine after simply rebooting?
May 18 17:34:02 <ecc3g> works fine, as in starts fast charging after rebooting.
May 18 18:38:59 <KotCzarny> exx3g: i had such situation, twice or thrice
May 18 18:49:34 <ecc3g> hmm
May 18 18:49:41 <ecc3g> some stately issue i guess.
May 18 18:50:11 <ecc3g> also this is annoying, the handset ear speaker doesn't work anymore... or at least it's very flaky?
May 18 18:50:18 <ecc3g> anyone seen this before?
May 18 18:52:21 <ecc3g> ah...it worked that time... hmm
May 18 18:55:29 <ecc3g> poor old phone... has to keep working, as there's no alternative... :(
May 18 18:57:04 <KotCzarny> buy another n900
May 18 18:57:07 <KotCzarny> :)
May 18 19:02:11 <KotCzarny> last time i thought i broke mine, i started searching for another ;)
May 18 19:45:52 <uros1> he people, can anybody point me to guide what to do after re-flash Nokia N9 with dead store ond normal repositores? Tnx in advance from Belgrade
May 18 19:46:56 <KotCzarny> n9 or n900?
May 18 19:47:29 <uros1> N9 harmattan
May 18 19:47:37 <KotCzarny> ~n9
May 18 19:47:44 <KotCzarny> ~harmattan
May 18 19:47:44 <infobot> harmattan is probably teh suck
May 18 19:47:55 <KotCzarny> that was.. informative
May 18 19:48:00 <KotCzarny> ~repos
May 18 19:48:21 <KotCzarny> ~repositories
May 18 19:48:22 <infobot> repositories are frequently old.
May 18 19:50:02 <KotCzarny> https://wiki.maemo.org/Harmattan_Tips_and_Workarounds
May 18 19:50:18 <uros1> KotCzarny: Tnx :)
May 18 23:53:20 * L29Ah thinks about using the accelerometer to pick and/or transpose music to match the walking pace
May 19 00:07:22 <DerHat> Hi, do anybody kept this file? n14_dev_snapshot.2.tar.bz2 i just want so much but nitdroid is down x.x
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