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Jun 19 10:24:24 <ceene> Mekkis: i use midori from easydebian
Jun 19 14:31:09 <henkjan> KotCzarny: about two weeks ago you suggested me to upgrade firmware on my n900
Jun 19 14:31:32 <henkjan> as fix for not working camera button
Jun 19 14:31:56 <henkjan> just did a flash with RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin 
Jun 19 14:33:19 <henkjan> flashin didn't help
Jun 19 14:33:23 <henkjan> any other suggestions?
Jun 19 14:33:57 <KotCzarny> other than 'its physically broken and needs replacing', nope
Jun 19 14:34:44 <henkjan> okay
Jun 19 14:34:54 <henkjan> i'll go look for a replacemnt button
Jun 19 18:22:28 <spaceSub> http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Using_Location_API#Location_methods << "location.METHOD_ACWP (Assisted Complementary Wireless Positioning) - A method where device is located based on cellular base station to which device is registered to. SIM card and a network connection is needed for ACWP method." << Does that mean I need a data connection or just a network connection?
Jun 19 18:22:53 <spaceSub> s/network connection/ connection to the gsm network/
Jun 19 18:22:55 <infobot> spaceSub meant: http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Using_Location_API#Location_methods << "location.METHOD_ACWP (Assisted Complementary Wireless Positioning) - A method where device is located based on cellular base station to which device is registered to. SIM card and a  co...
Jun 19 18:23:14 <KotCzarny> method where device is located based on cellular base station
Jun 19 18:23:36 <KotCzarny> clearly cellular phone chip must be connected to tower
Jun 19 18:23:43 <KotCzarny> either by voice or data
Jun 19 18:24:35 <KotCzarny> AND could be that to localize cell id you need also some internet connection
Jun 19 18:24:49 <spaceSub> The latter is what interest me.
Jun 19 18:25:30 <KotCzarny> though tbh database of all cell ids wouldnt be so big
Jun 19 18:25:45 <spaceSub> Exactly why I'm asking ;)
Jun 19 18:25:49 <Sicelo> ~rrlp
Jun 19 18:25:49 <infobot> i heard rrlp is the Radio Resource LCS (Location Service) Protocol as specified first in GSM TS 04.31, or http://security.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/RRLP
Jun 19 18:25:57 <KotCzarny> just grab some demo and check?
Jun 19 18:28:18 <spaceSub> Sicelo: Quote from the link: "As such, the RRLP protocol level is not accessible to user applications on a phone". Or are you suggesting, that ACWP might just do RRLP?
Jun 19 18:28:24 <spaceSub> KotCzarny: Will do.
Jun 19 18:29:13 <spaceSub> Hmm if nobody knows: Is there a way to just get some unique id of the current gsm base station?
Jun 19 18:30:46 <KotCzarny> on normal phones there is some kind of diagnostic mode
Jun 19 18:30:52 <KotCzarny> where cell id is displayed
Jun 19 18:32:10 <spaceSub> Well, I would need to be able to automate that. If possible in python ;)
Jun 19 19:36:10 <MonkeyofDoom> Pali: booting your v4.1-rc4-n900 branch, I get among other things, "legacy booting deprecated, please update to boot with .dts"--what config is needed to populate devicetree properly?
Jun 19 19:36:44 <Pali> MonkeyofDoom: you need to use rx51_defconfig AND you need to append DTS file to zImage
Jun 19 19:36:58 <MonkeyofDoom> ohhh
Jun 19 19:37:00 <Pali> http://elinux.org/N900#DT_Kernel_Compilation
Jun 19 19:37:04 <MonkeyofDoom> skipped the latter
Jun 19 19:37:05 <MonkeyofDoom> thanks
Jun 19 19:37:12 <Pali> make omap3-n900.dtb
Jun 19 19:37:17 <MonkeyofDoom> great
Jun 19 19:37:18 <Pali> cat arch/arm/boot/zImage arch/arm/boot/dts/omap3-n900.dtb > zImage
Jun 19 19:37:31 <MonkeyofDoom> and then make uImage?
Jun 19 19:37:51 <Pali> just combine compiled zImage and binary dt file to one output file
Jun 19 19:37:57 <Pali> uImage is needed for u-boot
Jun 19 19:38:00 <MonkeyofDoom> yeah
Jun 19 19:38:07 <MonkeyofDoom> I'm using u-boot
Jun 19 19:38:26 <Pali> depends how you want to boot it
Jun 19 19:38:51 <Pali> if you use u-boot-update-bootmenu, just put zImage to /opt/boot and create proper menu file
Jun 19 19:39:07 <Pali> if you use something else, then you probably know what to do...
Jun 19 19:39:20 <MonkeyofDoom> yeah, I think I have that part fine
Jun 19 22:35:19 <MonkeyofDoom> Pali: thanks, got as far as a userspace boot with X
Jun 19 22:35:36 <MonkeyofDoom> (but no touchscreen, or bad calibration)
Jun 19 22:35:43 <MonkeyofDoom> and no GPIOs
Jun 19 22:36:57 <spaceSub> http://maemo.org/packages/view/n900fly/ :D This is mental
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